Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 350. (Read 4671575 times)

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Man I find this thread structure hard to use , come on over to Reddit, it's way more organised over there

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/

Just because I expressed my aversion to CLI doesn't necessarily mean I don't know jack about hardware or more specifically, the difference between CPUs/SoCs of different platforms. I actually build rigs and therefore built my own little mining farm way back then before ASICs came into the scene. I also played around with RPi and have a half dozen Android devices that I also play around with. You and I probably read the same guide on the GnuRoot Debian/Monero Wallet CLI combo on Android whose links (from Reddit or Stack Exchange or both) had been posted on several occasions on this thread.

That said, you're still missing the point. Let's say that I was such a wizard of a tech geek as you are and succesfully got Wallet CLI running on one of my Android devices like you did. Is the other party that I'm gonna be transacting with in person as capable as I am in going through the intricacies of such a complex setup? There is no time to show off geek prowess when transacting on the go. One should have the ability to fire up the wallet, punch in the amount and hit send while the recipient would open up his/her mobile wallet and check to see if the transaction went through. That's an actual trading scenario in person. Same thing with making a purchase in person (primary use case) with cryptos. Punch in the amount and hit send. Showcasing geekness not necessary; in fact it's a hindrance and time-consuming in the real world. In other words, it's not viable nor it is practical/efficient.

This! I stopped using localbitcoins a long time because of this...

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6xajr6/suraes_end_of_august_update/

You mean you installed the GnuRoot Debian app and tried to set up Monero?  Did you use the ARM version?  Phone processors have a different architecture from computer cpu's.  There's a special version of Monero for the kind of cpu that android phones have.  Actually I think the Monero for ARM processors was built with Raspberry Pi users in mind, but the processors in android smart phones belong to the same family.
There's a learning curve to this kind of thing.  If you have negligible experience with the linux command line, navigating file systems and such, I would not expect you to be able to install Monero on your phone and get it working without a considerable effort.
Yeah, a nice android wallet would be a great thing to have.
Not that freewallet thing, which is probably a scam and ought to be taken off the Google Play Store.

Though I have a CLI phobia or some sort of aversion to it like so many other average Joes, I did try it on two different phones out of curiosity but could not get it to work. As you implied, it's not a viable nor a practical method of transacting on the go anyway. I guess the point is that Monero has been around a long time yet there is still no working mobile wallet app available to date. In fact, they just recently rolled out the GUI wallet.

I have an android phone with GnuRoot Debian installed.  On it I run the monero wallet linux command line client.  I use a VPS I rent in Europe as the remote node, but users can take advantage of one of the nodes listed at moneroworld.com
GnuRoot does not require root.
In truth, I only keep that phone wallet as a backup.  I use my laptop when I actually want to send and receive XMR.  Typing in commands on a smartphone's tiny touch screen is too much of a PITA.  But you can run the command line wallet on an anrdoid phone, and it works.  
I'm not going to tell you that you can run a full node on a smartphone;  synching the blockchain on a smartphone is a tall order.  But you can have a working monero wallet.

...and assuming one can contact a local buyer/seller to trade with in person through LocalMonero without any strings attached, how does one go about sending/receiving a Monero transaction in such a situation without lugging around a cumbersome laptop which requires a WiFi connection?

LocalBitcoins.com used to be great when they first started. Back then, you were able to contact any buyer/seller directly (as it should be) and arrange a meetup to trade in person. When they got big, they got greedy. You now have to make a deposit on their site before being able to contact a buyer/seller. I guess they want their cut of the transaction.

I hope LocalMonero does not follow the same business model that LocalBitcoins has currently. If the idea is to find a buyer/seller in one's area, then he/she should be able to do so directly without any strings attached.

That of course depends on what government you are talking about. And I would expect that anyone that has figured out how to do this on a large scale (it would have to be in BTC I would think) would not be willing to share that information without a price so your best bet would be to consult a good CPA.

Just in case you are not versed in Indian "Bytecoin" Temple theory and how BCN is taking over... (Yeah, right.)

https://thecryptopapers.com/2017/08/31/bytecoin-and-the-crypto-coin-daddy/

Monero is getting its own version of localBitcoins. A team of monero enthusiasts based in Hong Kong have launched an alternative version of LocalBitcoins.com.
Called LocalMonero.co, the website will connect buyers and sellers of the cryptocurrency based on country of residence. Users can meet and exchange monero for cash, or buy it online from a local seller. Created in 2013, monero is a privacy-centric cryptocurrency that obscures user transactional data by use a cryptographic procedure called "ring signatures."
https://localmonero.co

Even if that's true, their Trusted Setup negates it, not to mention how their devs feel about privacy.

I thought I read some time ago that the ring signature technology is mathematically not as secure in terms of anonymity as- for instance, ZCASH or so. So is that true? I have no clue about that stuff.

Is this now becoming a spec thread too? I thought there is a separate thread just for such a purpose.

The expected upward trend continues for a long time. It was a very nice investment. $ 140 is a very good value. I think that you will continue to rise during the past few days.

https://steemit.com/xmr/@javieralexvr/my-monero-xmr-thoughts-why-should-everyone-use-it

This is my first steemit post, What do you guys think?

https://binance.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001308592

2013, really?