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Here is 100 Monero users who trusted in its privacy yesterday, are you on that list?
I set up a new node 2 days ago, using v0.17.1.3, and added the IP ban list. Then I set up a simple script that was (and still is) sending transactions every 5 minutes on average, with random intervals. Out of the 400+ transactions sent so far, none ended up on your list Tongue
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e34ecdc56ae72af55bd745aeceda03d5d42657f0393ab6cfb86960c9cb6a0dee

OK for 1 of the addresses at random, why don't you fill us in a few details.

What is the balance of the address? what are their recent transactions

Where did the funds come from or go to before and after they were in this address?

etc.

I only track transactions, identities, and if they watch kinky porn. But sure you can escalate that attack, there are dozens way to track Monero, you say so yourself https://www.monerooutreach.org/breaking-monero/
legendary
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Free spirit
e34ecdc56ae72af55bd745aeceda03d5d42657f0393ab6cfb86960c9cb6a0dee

OK for 1 of the addresses at random, why don't you fill us in a few details.

What is the balance of the address? what are their recent transactions

Where did the funds come from or go to before and after they were in this address?

etc.
legendary
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Merit: 1141
Dear devs,

just checking the binaries for 17.1.3 and i need to mention that your hashes for the GUI Version are incorrect. One time i am downloading Version 17.1.3 one time 17.1.4 and in the hashes.txt file there is only 17.1.4 stated.
Please correct that, thank you  Grin

Probably a local caching issue. Try a hard refresh on the Monero website or use incognito / private mode.
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Dear devs,

just checking the binaries for 17.1.3 and i need to mention that your hashes for the GUI Version are incorrect. One time i am downloading Version 17.1.3 one time 17.1.4 and in the hashes.txt file there is only 17.1.4 stated.
Please correct that, thank you  Grin
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
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Recently, a largely incompetent attacker bumbled their way through a Sybil attack against Monero, trying to correlate transactions to the IP address of the node that broadcast it. Whilst novel in that it is the 1st Sybil attack of this sort, it was also quite ineffective. 1/n
First off, this clumsy attack had no effect on any of Monero's on-chain privacy mechanisms (ring signatures, stealth addresses, confidential transactions). Additionally, it is important to note that this is an attack that you could execute against nearly every cryptocurrency, 2/n
even privacy-focused cryptocurrencies. This makes it of particular interest, not just to Monero, but to all cryptocurrencies. Naturally, as we've all been aware of the possibility there is lots of work that has been done over the years to mitigate it. 3/n
The biggest mitigation is to use Tor or i2p for your node to broadcast its transactions, and this has been easily supported in Monero for 2 years (see: github.com/monero-project…) and in Bitcoin for over 8 years (see: github.com/bitcoin/bitcoi…) 4/n
bitcoin/bitcoin
Bitcoin Core integration/staging tree. Contribute to bitcoin/bitcoin development by creating an account on GitHub.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/tor.md
monero-project/monero
Monero: the secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - monero-project/monero
https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/ANONYMITY_NETWORKS.md
Of course, this isn't a silver bullet, and there are a class of attacks that can still be used to correlate a Tor address with a real-world IP address, & so an excellent group of researchers (Brad Denby, @giuliacfanti, @socrates1024, Shaileshh Bojja Venkatakrishnan, & others) 5/n
created Dandelion in 2017 (see: arxiv.org/pdf/1701.04439…). In 2018 they followed it up with Dandelion++ (see: arxiv.org/pdf/1805.11060…) which fixed many of the weaknesses of the original proposal. 6/n
Dandelion (and, by extension, Dandelion++) has been proposed for Bitcoin as BIP-156 (see: github.com/bitcoin/bips/b…), but is not yet implemented. Dandelion++ was implemented in Monero in a PR merged in April this year (see github.com/monero-project…). 7/n
Adding Dandelion++ support to public networks: by vtnerd · Pull Request #6314 · monero-project/monero
New flag in NOTIFY_NEW_TRANSACTION to indicate stem mode Stem loops detected in tx_pool.cpp Embargo timeout for a blackhole attack during stem phase
https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/6314
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https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0156.mediawiki
Without getting technical, Dandelion++ works by randomly "diffusing" transaction broadcasts. This means that for a Sybil attack to link a transaction to a node's IP address it has to be intercepted at the very first node in the "stem" phase of a Dandelion++ broadcast. 8/n
This attack, whilst novel in that it is a live Sybil attack against a network, was simply not large enough to be broadly effective against Dandelion++ - the attacker would have had to launch many thousands more nodes. 9/n
Even if they did do this, they would still not have been able to demonstrably prove a link between a node and a transaction, and it would be a "best guess" heuristic. Naturally this attack was entirely useless against anyone using a light node (eg. MyMonero), 10/n
against anyone using Tor / i2p for their node, against anyone who runs their node behind a VPN, or against anyone using pushtx on a Monero block explorer to broadcast their transactions. It was also largely useless for anyone using a node remotely (eg. Monerujo or the GUI). 11/n
Still, it did teach us some valuable lessons as the Sybil nodes also tried to disrupt the flow of transactions (by not rebroadcasting them), and tried to disrupt nodes syncing up by not serving them blocks. 12/n
Thus, the latest Monero release (0.17.1.3) has fine-tuned the way a node deals with misbehaving peers. If you are running a Monero or Bitcoin node (or a node for any other currency), it is important to be aware that Sybil attacks can be more subtle & less clumsy than this. 13/n
They can also be much harder to detect in practice if the attacker has enough money to deploy reasonable infrastructure. There has also been purpose-built Sybil node software created for Bitcoin (see: github.com/basil00/Pseudo…) that actually behaves pretty well. 14/n
basil00/PseudoNode
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https://github.com/basil00/PseudoNode
They do this without even requiring much in the way of server resources (eg. by proxying block requests through to another peer), and thus fully support initial sync, transaction broadcasts, and so on. They are a little diabolical in their ability to masquerade as a node. 15/n
If you are truly concerned about the efficacy of a Sybil attack (whether you're a Bitcoin or a Monero user) then I strongly recommend you run your node behind Tor, or at least broadcast your transactions on a block explorer's pushtx functionality (also accessible via Tor). 16/fin
Bootnote: here's a Reddit thread on the attack, which also includes a link to a flat file of the attacker's IP addresses that you can pass to --ban-list if you want to make sure your node doesn't connect to these.
legendary
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Free spirit
Surely your leaders would not want to allow you to become irrelevant.

USA is a key player just like china, china is the power dollars is the funding.

Anyone banning new technologies is in danger to be left behind.



legendary
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Is this legit ?
https://monero-badcaca.net/

Tx ids linked to IP & purchases

Looks like FUD, right before a sell off.

But if you can't attack the tech then mindshare is the next best vector.




They could be running a honey pot site and get that many customers to "reveal" nothing very interesting.


Yeah, if you went to that url with an open IP don't be surprised if you see your IP on the next FUD update. Wink

See:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/jrh7mv/psa_informational_thread_on_the_recently_observed/
legendary
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Binance appears to also have a sudden reaction of banning all Americans.

Link?

Sorry, it is from this article.

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/84020/binance-blocking-us-users-exchange-email-2

You reckon that this is one of the signals to be careful and prepare for what might come to the cryptospace?
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Binance appears to also have a sudden reaction of banning all Americans.

Link?
legendary
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Does everyone reckon that Erik Voorhees will tell the public what the real reasons for delisiting Monero? Is this connected to the change of administration in America?

Binance appears to also have a sudden reaction of banning all Americans. This could imply that Biden might not be friendly to the cryptospace market and development.

Decrypt's article also mentioned that US based exchange Kraken has Monero still listed. That might be the central piece of information to know if this is in some way connected to Biden's presidency.



For reasons like these, major US exchanges such as Gemini and Coinbase have not made Monero available for trading, despite the fact that it’s the 14th-largest cryptocurrency by market cap and does healthy trading volumes elsewhere. (Monero is, however, available on US-based exchange Kraken.)

https://decrypt.co/47508/shapeshift-quietly-delists-monero-privacy-coin
legendary
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That looks really desperate and vague.

The have only about 10 examples linked to a word, that's it.

They could be running a honey pot site and get that many customers to "reveal" nothing very interesting.

It is known you can take extra security if you chose. TCPIP is TCPIP.

Monero is in constant development and is always maturing. I expect this to continue.



Year seven of lies, old news, and poor attempts at FUD.  Yawn.  I'm not saying it's not possible, but the smartest, most creative people in the world are constantly working for and achieving improvements for Monero and crypto in general.  Monero seems to evolve faster than they can FUD it.  Amazing, and powerfully satisfying.
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Is this legit ?
https://monero-badcaca.net/

Tx ids linked to IP & purchases

Looks like FUD, right before a sell off.

But if you can't attack the tech then mindshare is the next best vector.




They could be running a honey pot site and get that many customers to "reveal" nothing very interesting.


Yeah, if you went to that url with an open IP don't be surprised if you see your IP on the next FUD update. Wink
legendary
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Free spirit
That looks really desperate and vague.

The have only about 10 examples linked to a word, that's it.

They could be running a honey pot site and get that many customers to "reveal" nothing very interesting.

It is known you can take extra security if you chose. TCPIP is TCPIP.

Monero is in constant development and is always maturing. I expect this to continue.

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Is this legit ?
https://monero-badcaca.net/

Tx ids linked to IP & purchases
full member
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only hodl what you understand and love!
https://decrypt.co/47508/shapeshift-quietly-delists-monero-privacy-coin

one XMR-delisting after the other, and I fear this "trend" won´t stop anymore Embarrassed

Shapeshift was a victim of success:  Too easy to use, too popular, too trusted in both the Monero and Zcash communities...  I think that they came under heavy pressure.

What I write is being watched very closely. Please give us time.
[1:10 PM - 4 Sep 2018]

Anyway, since they went KYC in 2018, who the hell still uses their service?  —For trading privacy coins!?  Roll Eyes

100% agreed, Merits from me  Grin Grin Grin
legendary
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https://decrypt.co/47508/shapeshift-quietly-delists-monero-privacy-coin

one XMR-delisting after the other, and I fear this "trend" won´t stop anymore Embarrassed

Privacy is a cat and mouse game between the development team and the regulators. The development team is winning, however, the regulators will pressure the weakest links between the people and the coin.  

One of the weakest links are the centralized exchanges. The regulators will win that game but there are solutions. Decentralized exchanges. Cat and mouse hehehe.

Atomic swaps will free the cat from the bag.

Shutdown what?



Agreed! And also real decentralized exchanges similar to Bisq.

Monero will also be the leading cryptocoin for grey markets. Centralized exchanges that do not demand KYC and are moderately isolated from mainstream cryptocoin markets.

I reckon many maximalists will look at this as leaving Monero behind. However, Monero is really establishing the way ahead.
legendary
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aaaaaand another transaction failed....you need to send more than once for it to work. Ah God what a terrible update. In the previous version everything worked perfect  Cry

Please switch to a custom remote node:

https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/3140#issuecomment-706440354

Note that there will be a new release soon that will fix this particular issue.

Does this mean i can use advanced mode without downloading the blockchain? Or will these settings apply in simple mode as well? OK. I'll try thank you!

If your concerned about your transaction being traced I would wait until this issue is handled, using a remote node even if trusted is not recommended. If you don't care if the transaction ever gets revealed then go for it.

If I was a devious person and wanted to attack the mindshare of Monero I would compromise trusted nodes and then insert a bug that herded people use those nodes. Then I would use that information to expose transactions and fud the project. I'm sure this isn't what happened but if you wear a tinfoil hat then this is a thought.
legendary
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aaaaaand another transaction failed....you need to send more than once for it to work. Ah God what a terrible update. In the previous version everything worked perfect  Cry

Please switch to a custom remote node:

https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/3140#issuecomment-706440354

Note that there will be a new release soon that will fix this particular issue.

Does this mean i can use advanced mode without downloading the blockchain? Or will these settings apply in simple mode as well? OK. I'll try thank you!

Yes, you can use advanced mode with a remote node and it will not download the blockchain.
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If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
https://decrypt.co/47508/shapeshift-quietly-delists-monero-privacy-coin

one XMR-delisting after the other, and I fear this "trend" won´t stop anymore Embarrassed

Shapeshift was a victim of success:  Too easy to use, too popular, too trusted in both the Monero and Zcash communities...  I think that they came under heavy pressure.

What I write is being watched very closely. Please give us time.
[1:10 PM - 4 Sep 2018]

Anyway, since they went KYC in 2018, who the hell still uses their service?  —For trading privacy coins!?  Roll Eyes
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