[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1036.

N-rG

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Quote from: CoinCidental on October 02, 2016, 03:01:17 PM

Quote from: tifozi on October 02, 2016, 02:48:34 PM

Quote from: medusa13 on October 02, 2016, 02:43:19 PM

N-rG (cheibesiech) reminds me a little bit of TC back in the day Grin

haha this is so true, it's why many are silently watching and probably chuckling at these games.

N-rG posts/activity ratio is way off so it is just an alt account of someone who is regular here anyways. Nearing 50 posts now in last 5 pages and deserves the dump from noobs I suppose. Working extra hard and extra hours round the clock.

Quote from: CoinCidental on October 02, 2016, 02:22:33 PM

you wont buy at 0.0085 though
thats the critical hole in your Master/disasterplan
you and others like you would probably have made more by simply hodling and doing sweet FA

I wouldn't be so sure. Every bear who has posted here relentlessly during different periods of time last 2 years has got the price they wanted.

eventually the market will weed out these people
its akin to people who wanted btc at 50 when it rose to 100 or wanted 200 again when it went 400

i dont think monero price will half again ,every once in a awhile the train pulls away from the station and leaves some people behind Wink

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Quote from: adolf512 on October 02, 2016, 01:55:37 PM

I have to be honest i am really terrified right now, i have a feeling that the price will fall below 0.01, i had the same feeling before the last crash(sold half then). If i had my xmr on poloniex i would have sold, that's for sure. I actually regret not having my xmr on poloniex now, i would have sold at 0.0137 in that case.

The price is back up to 0.01357 now, and is up 11% today. What I sometimes do in volatile conditions (usually on pump and dump coins on yobit) is make sure I break even, or almost break even, sell the original buy price then trade on the profits - its not so stressful that way. Maybe its something you could do to make the trading experience more palatable - profits will be less of course - but the risk would be mitigated.

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Placed a 0.0134, 0.0133 stop-limit, settled for a compromise. XMR looks bullish now but i do not trust these indications, often everything will look fine before a crash. I am starting to feel a bit uncertain now about the crash, i do view these darknet-markets as suspicious, i am sure they added xmr to pump the price after buying up a lot, they might short xmr after it increases again and make even more money.

Quote from: nioc on October 02, 2016, 03:05:05 PM

Terrified seems to be an excessive reaction. I acknowledge my weak trading skills and have limited time to use them. During my 2+ years buying and holding the price has hit 0.001 twice. Please note the zeros. This obviously put me underwater. My reaction was "oh well I guess I'll be holding for a while longer". There is a possibility that all goes to zero but obviously I believe in Monero, what it is, what it has become and what it will become. This belief has been continually strengthened by the actions of both the devs and the community.

I lacks discipline needed to be a good trader, i often buy too high(started to buy at 0.015 but luckily sold at loss after it went down 1%).

Edit: sold now, maybe it was a mistake(removed the stop-limit but still sold during a drop). Transfered another 100XMR to sell in the case the price increases to above 0.014, i know i might miss out on a potential rise but the amount of money i can make from that is simply to small now, i will simply have to gamble that the price falls a lot so i can rebuy.

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Quote from: adolf512 on October 02, 2016, 01:55:37 PM

I have to be honest i am really terrified right now, i have a feeling that the price will fall below 0.01, i had the same feeling before the last crash(sold half then). If i had my xmr on poloniex i would have sold, that's for sure. I actually regret not having my xmr on poloniex now, i would have sold at 0.0137 in that case.

Terrified seems to be an excessive reaction. I acknowledge my weak trading skills and have limited time to use them. During my 2+ years buying and holding the price has hit 0.001 twice. Please note the zeros. This obviously put me underwater. My reaction was "oh well I guess I'll be holding for a while longer". There is a possibility that all goes to zero but obviously I believe in Monero, what it is, what it has become and what it will become. This belief has been continually strengthened by the actions of both the devs and the community.

I don't know what your situation or temperament is and I am just giving you my perspective. I am in no way trying to influence others for personal gain. There is both good and bad advice here and at least for me it took a bit of time to figure out what was what. Hopfully you will find what works for you. Sometimes the good perspectives are only shared in response to the bad so I would like to thank everybody

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Quote from: tifozi on October 02, 2016, 02:48:34 PM

Quote from: medusa13 on October 02, 2016, 02:43:19 PM

N-rG (cheibesiech) reminds me a little bit of TC back in the day Grin

haha this is so true, it's why many are silently watching and probably chuckling at these games.

N-rG posts/activity ratio is way off so it is just an alt account of someone who is regular here anyways. Nearing 50 posts now in last 5 pages and deserves the dump from noobs I suppose. Working extra hard and extra hours round the clock.

Quote from: CoinCidental on October 02, 2016, 02:22:33 PM

you wont buy at 0.0085 though
thats the critical hole in your Master/disasterplan
you and others like you would probably have made more by simply hodling and doing sweet FA

I wouldn't be so sure. Every bear who has posted here relentlessly during different periods of time last 2 years has got the price they wanted.

eventually the market will weed out these people
its akin to people who wanted btc at 50 when it rose to 100 or wanted 200 again when it went 400

i dont think monero price will half again ,every once in a awhile the train pulls away from the station and leaves some people behind Wink

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Quote from: medusa13 on October 02, 2016, 02:43:19 PM

N-rG (cheibesiech) reminds me a little bit of TC back in the day Grin

haha this is so true, it's why many are silently watching and probably chuckling at these games.

N-rG posts/activity ratio is way off so it is just an alt account of someone who is regular here anyways. Nearing 50 posts now in last 5 pages and deserves the dump from noobs I suppose. Working extra hard and extra hours round the clock.

Quote from: CoinCidental on October 02, 2016, 02:22:33 PM

you wont buy at 0.0085 though
thats the critical hole in your Master/disasterplan
you and others like you would probably have made more by simply hodling and doing sweet FA

I wouldn't be so sure. Every bear who has posted here relentlessly during different periods of time last 2 years has got the price they wanted.

medusa13

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hello world

take it easy guys, all your stashes are enormous Cheesy

up or down? who knows, shorting here seems risky and i would only recommend the greedy and risk averse to try.
im personally trading a lot lately, the liq is pretty nice. ofc i can not just buy, i need to sell too. but i would never part from my core long term position, way too risky.

remember when discussing, people have different timeframes. also positions have different size, what is a good idea with 5k coins might be a very bad idea to do with 50k coins.

N-rG (cheibesiech) reminds me a little bit of TC back in the day Grin

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Quote from: N-rG on October 02, 2016, 02:10:16 PM

Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on October 02, 2016, 01:54:17 PM

The fact is, Monero is now so cheap this price is sustainable even without Darknet markets. Sure Monero was cheaper in a few months ago - but it was more or less the same for 2 years despite the emission is cut significiantly.
I think you are ignoring here the fact that Monero is fundamentally the best and has the merit of being more expensive than today.

No you just dont get that we actually are not that far from each other than you think. I also believed in the future of XMR and still do. But now things changed.

Oasis exit scam (yes i know you disowned this)
AlphaBay looks suspicious cause they dont cash out
No other big market announced to use XMR

These are negative points. When i sum up than the negative feedback of vendors/users at the DNM i easily come to the point that at the moment the price will not reach 70$.
So i cannot tell a newbie "ya keep your coins thats good" when i dont believe so.
You say: Keep it.
I say: sell and buy later more coins for less money.

If you are right and the price is at 70$ somewhen, he has more advance with my tipp, hasnt he?

If someone doesnt care for that all, buy, put into your wallet, live your life and than see what happend 2 years later.

If I would act like bagholders, i would have now lost ~40% of my money. Now i have even more money and can buy hopefully cheap at 0.0085. Easy thing.

you wont buy at 0.0085 though
thats the critical hole in your Master/disasterplan
you and others like you would probably have made more by simply hodling and doing sweet FA

N-rG

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Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on October 02, 2016, 01:54:17 PM

The fact is, Monero is now so cheap this price is sustainable even without Darknet markets. Sure Monero was cheaper in a few months ago - but it was more or less the same for 2 years despite the emission is cut significiantly.
I think you are ignoring here the fact that Monero is fundamentally the best and has the merit of being more expensive than today.

No you just dont get that we actually are not that far from each other than you think. I also believed in the future of XMR and still do. But now things changed.

Oasis exit scam (yes i know you disowned this)
AlphaBay looks suspicious cause they dont cash out
No other big market announced to use XMR

These are negative points. When i sum up than the negative feedback of vendors/users at the DNM i easily come to the point that at the moment the price will not reach 70$.
So i cannot tell a newbie "ya keep your coins thats good" when i dont believe so.
You say: Keep it.
I say: sell and buy later more coins for less money.

If you are right and the price is at 70$ somewhen, he has more advance with my tipp, hasnt he?

If someone doesnt care for that all, buy, put into your wallet, live your life and than see what happend 2 years later.

If I would act like bagholders, i would have now lost ~40% of my money. Now i have even more money and can buy hopefully cheap at 0.0085. Easy thing.

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Quote from: adolf512 on October 02, 2016, 01:55:37 PM

I have to be honest i am really terrified right now, i have a feeling that the price will fall below 0.01, i had the same feeling before the last crash(sold half then). If i had my xmr on poloniex i would have sold, that's for sure. I actually regret not having my xmr on poloniex now, i would have sold at 0.0137 in that case.

price still moving and trades are unstable i think it is a good fortune to position buy order just needed to have good timing opportunity comes and if this downfall will continue those who are trusting this project would benefits in the long run the more you hold the more chances that the price will bounce back and weak holders will cry when price will rises up again.

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Quote from: adolf512 on October 02, 2016, 01:55:37 PM

I have to be honest i am really terrified right now, i have a feeling that the price will fall below 0.01, i had the same feeling before the last crash(sold half then).

Than you actually have a quit good feeling. I would not recommend to a newbie to use marging trades, especially not when you are a low money. But maybe use half of your coins (or even less) to trust your feeling and deal with long/shorts.

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I have to be honest i am really terrified right now, i have a feeling that the price will fall below 0.01, i had the same feeling before the last crash(sold half then). If i had my xmr on poloniex i would have sold, that's for sure. I actually regret not having my xmr on poloniex now, i would have sold at 0.0137 in that case.

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I think you are more here complaining because nobody wants to dump into your shorts.
We are here warning the newbies not to sell to you cheap those coins they bought higher in hope of 70 usd/xmr.
People need more long term focus and if they are not 100 % certain they are able to make more money than lose they should not gamble.

The fact is, Monero is now so cheap this price is sustainable even without Darknet markets. Sure Monero was cheaper in a few months ago - but it was more or less the same for 2 years despite the emission is cut significiantly.
I think you are ignoring here the fact that Monero is fundamentally the best and has the merit of being more expensive than today.

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Quote from: N-rG on October 02, 2016, 01:47:08 PM

i have my facts

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N-rG

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So why you complain than about falling prices. Than you win of the current situation of falling prices. I dont understand why you than always deny these facts. Well, whatever. I think we are finish, you have your oppinion, i have my facts

We can both live with that.

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Quote from: N-rG on October 02, 2016, 01:37:13 PM

Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on October 02, 2016, 01:30:43 PM

Okay NRG, if you say so that the price goes down, then short it.
Based on your last writing you obviously still have open short position.

I am ready for your increase in short - I have still 4 bids waiting to be filled. I promise you I will not withdraw those orders even if the price approaches them. Wink

Those orders are legitimate.
And I can put even more bids if you need more liquidity. Cheesy

Somehow you always say "i have some more bids open" when the price is falling. I see that as a good sign that 0.0101 is reached soon

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XMRBTC/1RaAMKMF-Monero-XMR-flush-toilet-time/

I do not go all in with one shot. I am not stupid.
I still have a nice stash of bitcoins outside of exchange and I am willing to put even more bids with higher amounts if you need some liquidity with your short positions.
My timeline is years and years ahead.
Today even 1 of my bids were touched so please to hard so that I can get some of the coins you borrow, well, from me. Grin

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Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on October 02, 2016, 01:30:43 PM

Okay NRG, if you say so that the price goes down, then short it.
Based on your last writing you obviously still have open short position.

I am ready for your increase in short - I have still 4 bids waiting to be filled. I promise you I will not withdraw those orders even if the price approaches them. Wink

Those orders are legitimate.
And I can put even more bids if you need more liquidity. Cheesy

Somehow you always say "i have some more bids open" when the price is falling. I see that as a good sign that 0.0101 is reached soon

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XMRBTC/1RaAMKMF-Monero-XMR-flush-toilet-time/

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Quote from: N-rG on October 02, 2016, 12:44:10 PM

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Quote from: N-rG on October 02, 2016, 12:03:03 PM

So what I was worried about AB seems not to be so spectulative....

And some verndors are also complaining:

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Waiting for my coin since 5 days. Support not answering.

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Also have about 400 BTC what apeared send but i havent received anything !!!
Please AlphaBay dont follow Oasis...fck 400 BTC Sad

Not sure what these have to do with XMR....

Cause the rise of XMR began with the announcemen of Alphabay acceptance.
After Oasis did exit scam the price drops.
When now AlphaBay is doing the same, im afraid XMR will also drop like hell. That fucks me up so much with these darknet markets.

Well the truth is, you are just concerned about your short.. lol

I closed my short already at 115 with ~20.000$+
But I go in with a new short for sure at 140 or 150

Keep me updated when you open the short position.
Current price of Monero is such a small that this can be achieved even without DNM.

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Quote from: aerbax on October 02, 2016, 01:24:04 PM

Monero (and Kovri) dev meeting note highlights - 2016-10-02

https://hellomonero.com/article/monero-and-kovri-dev-meeting-note-highlights-2016-10-02

monero is now making some movements i think need some observation before placing and entry thanks to this mate.

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