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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 115. (Read 3314316 times)

legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
January 23, 2020, 10:11:25 PM
Well it's just gone over 0.008....

Not too shabby, eh?  Looking forward to getting back to proper Monero prices again, it's about time.

That's about, ooh 70 bucks in 'old money'.

Well If you all remeber i've been buying back since Alphabay so i'm a little under water on my DCA.

It will be nice to get back to fucking .03 again!

But then I'm still not selling. Cheesy

I learned my lesson the hard way.

So did I, way back - but I just traded and traded to get the average down.  And bought more, which helps if you're under water.  When it did rocket up in 2016, I was sitting pretty.

I hope it works out for you, and I am sure Monero will help, it does look like sooner or later it will break out properly again, it wasn't so long back it was under $40.

Crypto teaches us all the discipline of patience.

No worries, I have alot of patience and was never here for a quick score in the first place.

I'm actually just bumming on the fact that its not more mainstream and people still have no clue in general what Monero is.

Talk about the best kept secret in the World!

And we don't even try to keep it out of the spot light.
legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
January 23, 2020, 08:31:30 PM
Yeah.  That's good stuff.  Important topic, and certainly one of the concepts that will be used against Monero.
hero member
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Keep what's important, and know who's your friend
January 23, 2020, 07:50:15 PM
About supply auditability
Posted by: Sarang Noether, Ph.D.; Justin Ehrenhofer
January 17, 2020

https://web.getmonero.org/2020/01/17/auditability.html



Wow that was very well written.  Kudos to Sarang and Justin Smiley
legendary
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Flippin' burgers since 1163.
January 23, 2020, 12:41:18 PM
About supply auditability
Posted by: Sarang Noether, Ph.D.; Justin Ehrenhofer
January 17, 2020

https://web.getmonero.org/2020/01/17/auditability.html

newbie
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January 22, 2020, 04:31:36 AM
I have chosen an exchanger from the list on official website: https://web.getmonero.org/community/merchants/#exchanges
The exchanger turned out to be scam. Remoe it from your recomendation list please.

Threads about the scam are here:
RU: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/changehero-21-010-usdt-5219259
ENG: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/changeheroio-exchanger-scammed-me-for-21-010-usdt-5219589
legendary
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Free spirit
January 21, 2020, 12:37:13 PM
WAIT!    hehe


Looking at it again I just noticed even something else on the weekly scale.  What happened last time the lines crossed in this orientation?  this big chart feels so loaded with information

legendary
Activity: 3836
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
January 20, 2020, 02:02:45 PM
Well it's just gone over 0.008....

Not too shabby, eh?  Looking forward to getting back to proper Monero prices again, it's about time.

That's about, ooh 70 bucks in 'old money'.

Well If you all remeber i've been buying back since Alphabay so i'm a little under water on my DCA.

It will be nice to get back to fucking .03 again!

But then I'm still not selling. Cheesy

I learned my lesson the hard way.

So did I, way back - but I just traded and traded to get the average down.  And bought more, which helps if you're under water.  When it did rocket up in 2016, I was sitting pretty.

I hope it works out for you, and I am sure Monero will help, it does look like sooner or later it will break out properly again, it wasn't so long back it was under $40.

Crypto teaches us all the discipline of patience.

If we could get the damn proper payment channels setup and stable then we would have to wait for jack. I'd love to lose fiat totally but i won't do that in lue of a centralized solution ala visa.

Hopium:

BTC crashed from ~$19,500 in Dec. 2017 to ~$14,500 on Jan. 9, 2018. That's the day Monero reached its ATH of $542, or 0.0347 BTC.

It's likely we'll see an altcoin bubble following the next bitcoin bubble again. If Bitcoin were to reach $100K at the top of the next bubble, then crash 25% when altcoin season hits it's pinnacle, one XMR at 0.035 would carry a value of $2,625.

I never notice it got that high, my hopium to just use it and nothing else.

Well BTC is a fine storage medium but for everyday purchases and payments i want Monero.
legendary
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Free spirit
January 19, 2020, 06:47:37 AM
and that trend line might even be a curve really, looking at it now


woop
legendary
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Free spirit
January 19, 2020, 06:45:37 AM
OK OK you wanted chart pr0n

I spent some time today looking deeper at Monero. Boom look what I noticed.




On the biggest 1w scale - volume steady and rising, emission slowing. Even RSI turning back to the up.


Final observation is that the manipulations seem to be taking bigger and bigger amounts these days, is that a sign it cant be manipulated forever?


Globb0
legendary
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Shitcoin Minimalist
January 19, 2020, 12:10:43 AM
Actually in some recent articles was named hmmm let me remeber. Flufflypony.


What about this chart?




Finally some chart pr0n. I now have no need for a fulffer.
hero member
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January 18, 2020, 10:17:43 PM
But isn't a 'fluffer' someone who...

Oh, never mind.
We all know what a fluffer's favorite activity is.
But what's fluffer's favorite food?
A fluffer's favorite food is a fluffernutter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluffernutter

legendary
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January 18, 2020, 05:37:59 PM
Actually in some recent articles was named hmmm let me remeber. Flufflypony.


What about this chart?


legendary
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Free spirit
January 18, 2020, 04:40:01 PM
Its ok this is Flufilly pony



legendary
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January 18, 2020, 02:41:33 PM
But isn't a 'fluffer' someone who...

Oh, never mind.
legendary
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Merit: 1118
January 18, 2020, 02:27:21 PM


Look at that. Flufferponer selling Moreno 24/7 in South Africa.
legendary
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Free spirit
January 18, 2020, 02:01:53 PM
hero member
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Keep what's important, and know who's your friend
January 18, 2020, 01:58:28 PM

I don't want to argue in vain and trigger feelings with this post, I just want to talk logically and rationnally about an interesting subject.

Regarding BSV, what you skectch as a scenario (Metanet ending in a centrally controled) is only an hypothesis, a speculation, a possibility. No one will know for sure until this has been tried.
Maybe this will end up centrally controled, maybe not. I suggest you framing that as an experiment. The same way Bitcoin was framed as an experiment until 2014. Let's look at what's going to happen, and I am personally grateful that some people carry out this project.

Regarding CSW, who cares? This a protocol, it's only the code that matter.
Do you remember the early days of Bitcoin when people said that knowing the personality of Satoshi was irrelevant to the Bitcoin project?  The same goes for BSV. This is a protocol, which such be judged as such. Rationally, gossips about personalities should be irrelevant.

The difference is trusting an egotistical narcissist, who will do anything in the world to prove he's Satoshi, to make rational decisions.  The real Satoshi was a pseudonym basically to protect himself and the BTC project.  The purpose of open sourced projects like these is to trust the code only, sure... but what happens when the dude who has been pushing for this all the sudden sees another problem after more people get interested in BSV and start wanting to take it in a different direction than what he has decided on?  BSVclassic is what happens.
Well if CSW pushes for changes that doesn't conform with his previously stated goals (ie. an ossified protocol around a version as close as possible than the v0.1 of the Bitcoin protocol) then yes you are correct, a fork will ensue. But why would this be bad?

Forks are mechanisms that allow to keep alive a valuable alternative path despite a social take over of a protocol network. Because of the possibility, if needed, to forking away from CSW, people don't have to trust him. CSW can do whatever he wants, enough people are sold on the idea of ossifying the protocol, to make it happens.

Alike for Monero. We can never be sure a protocol change that degrades the privacy won't be push by the devs inside the protocol. But we can be pretty sure if this happens there would be a fork.
We don't have to trust the developpers, we only need to know that the possibility to fork away from misguided developpers will exist in the future.

Ok I get what you are saying.  I agree that forks are a good thing and that helps ensure decentralization... I'm just saying the likely hood that the people who are "BSV supporters" are not going to be your typical people like you see in the XMR community and genuinely care to develop what CSW is setting out to do.  To me, it looks like it's CSW wanting fame and fortune and then you got everyone else who have invested who is just probably hedging against BTC without any real knowledge of crypto currencies.
legendary
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January 18, 2020, 12:00:31 PM

I don't want to argue in vain and trigger feelings with this post, I just want to talk logically and rationnally about an interesting subject.

Regarding BSV, what you skectch as a scenario (Metanet ending in a centrally controled) is only an hypothesis, a speculation, a possibility. No one will know for sure until this has been tried.
Maybe this will end up centrally controled, maybe not. I suggest you framing that as an experiment. The same way Bitcoin was framed as an experiment until 2014. Let's look at what's going to happen, and I am personally grateful that some people carry out this project.

Regarding CSW, who cares? This a protocol, it's only the code that matter.
Do you remember the early days of Bitcoin when people said that knowing the personality of Satoshi was irrelevant to the Bitcoin project?  The same goes for BSV. This is a protocol, which such be judged as such. Rationally, gossips about personalities should be irrelevant.

The difference is trusting an egotistical narcissist, who will do anything in the world to prove he's Satoshi, to make rational decisions.  The real Satoshi was a pseudonym basically to protect himself and the BTC project.  The purpose of open sourced projects like these is to trust the code only, sure... but what happens when the dude who has been pushing for this all the sudden sees another problem after more people get interested in BSV and start wanting to take it in a different direction than what he has decided on?  BSVclassic is what happens.
Well if CSW pushes for changes that doesn't conform with his previously stated goals (ie. an ossified protocol around a version as close as possible than the v0.1 of the Bitcoin protocol) then yes you are correct, a fork will ensue. But why would this be bad?

Forks are mechanisms that allow to keep alive a valuable alternative path despite a social take over of a protocol network. Because of the possibility, if needed, to forking away from CSW, people don't have to trust him. CSW can do whatever he wants, enough people are sold on the idea of ossifying the protocol, to make it happens.

Alike for Monero. We can never be sure a protocol change that degrades the privacy won't be push by the devs inside the protocol. But we can be pretty sure if this happens there would be a fork.
We don't have to trust the developpers, we only need to know that the possibility to fork away from misguided developpers will exist in the future.
hero member
Activity: 1874
Merit: 840
Keep what's important, and know who's your friend
January 18, 2020, 10:58:51 AM

I don't want to argue in vain and trigger feelings with this post, I just want to talk logically and rationnally about an interesting subject.

Regarding BSV, what you skectch as a scenario (Metanet ending in a centrally controled) is only an hypothesis, a speculation, a possibility. No one will know for sure until this has been tried.
Maybe this will end up centrally controled, maybe not. I suggest you framing that as an experiment. The same way Bitcoin was framed as an experiment until 2014. Let's look at what's going to happen, and I am personally grateful that some people carry out this project.

Regarding CSW, who cares? This a protocol, it's only the code that matter.
Do you remember the early days of Bitcoin when people said that knowing the personality of Satoshi was irrelevant to the Bitcoin project?  The same goes for BSV. This is a protocol, which such be judged as such. Rationally, gossips about personalities should be irrelevant.

The difference is trusting an egotistical narcissist, who will do anything in the world to prove he's Satoshi, to make rational decisions.  The real Satoshi was a pseudonym basically to protect himself and the BTC project.  The purpose of open sourced projects like these is to trust the code only, sure... but what happens when the dude who has been pushing for this all the sudden sees another problem after more people get interested in BSV and start wanting to take it in a different direction than what he has decided on?  BSVclassic is what happens.
legendary
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Merit: 2053
Free spirit
January 18, 2020, 10:52:00 AM
in a nice place, green shoots.. (and that nice volume)



Sorry I cropped the time doh, it was fairly long back 12h per candle
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