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Quote from: isildur1 on April 12, 2016, 03:20:33 PM

So is monreo worth investing in or is this another pump and dump scam. It seems to have more upsides than the other alt coins but that could just be people speculating rubbish.

My take on this is that it depends a lot on the time frame. My opinion is that Monero has very strong fundamentals that can lead upside over the medium to long term. On the other hand a day trader using margin can very easily get stopped out long before any fundamentals are reflected on the price. The recent drop has been very close to lock step with Ethererum. Interestingly Monero is at a significant support level while Ethrereum is not. It is very possible that we see a decoupling at this point.

Investing in Crypto currency is not for the faint of heart. One can see a complete loss of the invested funds and also explosive upside returns. Even Bitcoin has seen some extreme movements like a drop from over 30 USD to 2 USD in 2011 followed by a rise over the following two years from 2 USD to over 1000 USD. Then followed by a low just over 150 USD. Monero is even more volatile.

smooth

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on April 12, 2016, 09:52:58 AM

Well if you are not hiding from the government and just want privacy, then we could just use a centralized mixer.

Maybe, Panama Papers seem relevant here, if you are relying on a third party to not disclose information then you may not be safe from future leaks of whatever source. Some of the Panama Papers cases involve divorce settlements, business partners, etc., for example, and nobody really believes that divorce lawyers have the NSA working for them. They too have the info now too, regardless. Same could be said for nosy neighbors.

If you aren't very good at security, maybe you can't even trust yourself not to accidentally disclose in the future, but at least with Monero you can personally retire the wallet, securely delete the keys and not have to worry about that.

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Quote from: smooth on April 12, 2016, 03:13:20 PM

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Don't argue with him, he is clearly mentally unstable

Nor diagnoses

That is a personal attack. Diagnoses implies there is a mental disease to diagnose.

Are you sticking with that choice of word?

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Sorry. Just trying to nail down / explain why character assessment gets in the way of constructive discourse - not enhance it.

There is no need to apologize, please just stop. None of this is relevant to Monero Speculation. I guess it could be on topic if you think he is trying to manipulate the market with his posts, but I don't believe that and I don't think you do either since your comments continue to focus on topic of ego and such. If he posts off topic then I will delete that too (and I have), so let's just focus on avoiding the significant risk of thread derail

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Quote from: smooth on April 12, 2016, 03:35:10 PM

Sorry. Just trying to nail down / explain why character assessment gets in the way of constructive discourse - not enhance it. TBT is intentionally blind on this fact and loves toset people off by belittling them in order to get a reaction he can then start waving around in a Donald Trump type fashion and threaten to sue. It is not only unhealthy for good discourse - it's impossible to address with him because his ego is so large and his emotional immaturity completely keeps him from taking any constructive input.

So he walks in as an authority on any given subject not a contributor to a conversation. And THAT dynamic is kinda on topic for this thread ...

generalizethis

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Quote from: r0ach on April 12, 2016, 03:08:39 PM

Quote from: generalizethis on April 12, 2016, 02:22:55 PM

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You spend more time on here talking about your previous accomplishments

This is also off topic. Please ignore the off topic noise until I get around to moderating the thread. Going back and forth on it just makes for more noise.

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from ten years ago (15?) than any five people combined.

Also assessment of someone's character / capacity (idiot / moron /etc) is generally regulated to "opinion" not "fact" (unless you want to get into the social justice warrior operations manual of character assassination in order to bolster your points

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Quote from: smooth on April 12, 2016, 03:30:26 PM

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Then don''t, but don't resort to name calling here.

Facts are not names.

Calling someone an idiot is a personal attack and irrelevant to Monero Speculation, whether accurate or not.

I'm also deleting the long esr quote because it is clearly off topic to Monero Speculation.

No I was telling him that I will not get into a long disingenuous argument with an idiot. He replied to detailed logic of mine that he disagreed without refuting any of the economic logic I provided. That is not a personal attack. And it is certainly not a name.

If you don't apply logic, then I want nothing to do with you. Bye.

Quote from: smooth on April 12, 2016, 03:35:10 PM

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You spend more time on here talking about your previous accomplishments

This is also off topic. Please ignore the off topic noise until I get around to moderating the thread. Going back and forth on it just makes for more noise.

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from ten years ago (15?) than any five people combined.

Also assessment of someone's character / capacity (idiot / moron /etc) is generally regulated to "opinion" not "fact" (unless you want to get into the social justice warrior operations manual of character assassination in order to bolster your points

I didn't even bother to read that, because I figured what ever he had posted in reaction was going to totally ignore the point that he wasn't refuting the economic logic. And he still didn't get it that "idiot" had nothing to do with bolstering my logic. It was my way of saying that if you are not going to refute my logic, then please don't waste my time, because I am too busy.

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Quote from: isildur1 on April 12, 2016, 03:20:33 PM

So is monreo worth investing in or is this another pump and dump scam.

No one can answer that for you. If it were a pump and dump scam, the scammers and brainwashed dupes would tell you otherwise.

Learn about the project and come to your own conclusion. Specific questions are welcome of course.

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Then don''t, but don't resort to name calling here.

Facts are not names.

Calling someone an idiot is a personal attack and irrelevant to Monero Speculation, whether accurate or not.

I'm also deleting the long esr quote because it is clearly off topic to Monero Speculation.

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFZEGJo43fObLP1GV

So is monreo worth investing in or is this another pump and dump scam. It seems to have more upsides than the other alt coins but that could just be people speculating rubbish.

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Quote from: spatula on April 12, 2016, 02:48:34 PM

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It looks like it's just a miner installed/ran with a script to hide the window. Probably does include free malware with purchase Wink

It is at best junk and at worst paid for malware. If you wish to mine Monero just start the client and enter:

Code:

start_mining 44AFFq5kSiGBoZ4NMDwYtN18obc8AemS33DBLWs3H7otXft3XjrpDtQGv7SqSsaBYBb98uNbr2VBBEt7f2wfn3RVGQBEP3A 2

The above address in the Monero project donation address and 2 is the number of threads. Mining to the project donation address is a simple way to support the Monero project.

To mine to a different address enter it instead of the above address. To mine using a different number of threads replace 2 by the number of threads. I have found that half of the total number of processor threads is optimal.

Edit: Check https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/ to verify the above address.

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on April 12, 2016, 11:23:34 AM

I won't argue with an idiot

Then don''t, but don't resort to name calling here.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Don't argue with him, he is clearly mentally unstable

Nor diagnoses

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Quote from: generalizethis on April 12, 2016, 02:22:55 PM

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Quote from: munteanudoru on April 12, 2016, 02:26:41 PM

Quote from: volyova on April 12, 2016, 12:03:26 PM

Botnets are malware. No serious investor would put money in that.

recently i found this website, www.invisible-miner.com . Is this a botnet? If you can use it to mine, how this can affect you ?

It looks like it's just a miner installed/ran with a script to hide the window. Probably does include free malware with purchase Wink

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imagine a botnet mining toaster contributing to the safety of the monero network
skynet will mine whatever is more profitable to mine with available equipment

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

Quote from: vokain on April 12, 2016, 02:26:57 PM

Quote from: generalizethis on April 12, 2016, 02:22:55 PM

I don't know why anyone gets bent out of shape over botnets--I hope someone builds a stuxnet-monero bot that infects every government computer in the world and donates the proceeds to anonymous and WikiLeaks and my personal project, PSY.

Would you tell us more about this PSY?

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Quote from: generalizethis on April 12, 2016, 02:22:55 PM

I don't know why anyone gets bent out of shape over botnets--I hope someone builds a stuxnet-monero bot that infects every government computer in the world and donates the proceeds to anonymous and WikiLeaks and my personal project, PSY.

Would you tell us more about this PSY?

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Quote from: volyova on April 12, 2016, 12:03:26 PM

Botnets are malware. No serious investor would put money in that.

recently i found this website, www.invisible-miner.com . Is this a botnet? If you can use it to mine, how this can affect you ?

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

I don't know why anyone gets bent out of shape over botnets--I hope someone builds a stuxnet-monero bot that infects every government computer in the world and donates the proceeds to anonymous and WikiLeaks and my personal project, PSY.

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