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legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
December 19, 2015, 11:53:16 AM
A space station may not be the most interesting thing that you buy with your Monero. Have you considered immortality?

I've been researching Aubrey de Grey, Ray Kurzweil, Peter Thiel, Ellison, Brin, etc. and other people who are researching or supporting life extension. It seems that there are a lot of smart people who believe that we'll be able to realistically extend our lives to 120+ years. That will then be enough, for some of us, to survive until the point where technology allows us to extend our lives indefinitely.

But the first generation of immortals will need lots of money. Read more here:
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/03/13/silicon-valley-trying-make-humans-immortal-and-finding-some-success-311402.html





Newsflash: It's impossible to experience nothingness, therefore you can only ever experience somethingness, therefore you are eternal.



No, that doesn't equal you being eternal. It equals your experience being limited to when you are alive which is why people are trying to extend their lives.... So they can have more experiences and maybe switch a career after they've spent a natural lifetime mastering one, or maybe experience what it's like to be young again or be rich or live long enough to travel off this crappy rock that encourages the eat or be eaten lifestyle, which is why i want my investments to succeed and i can enjoy my space yacht with my hot android GFs. (see how i got that back on topic  Wink )

Perhaps you're looking at the situation too dogmatically. Deckard would surely confirm that memories (and reality) is something of a slippery fish. Impossible to confirm, absolutely.

But if it's impossible to experience nothingness, then it's impossible up experience nothingness.

Somethingness prevails.

Perhaps your're being chimerical.

You need a brain ATM to experience something in your current human form, therefore if that dies, so do all your human experiences. I'm sure the dead atoms that fall off your body on a daily basis have some sort of experience, but that's not the experience I want to extend to if that's eternal life.

(sorry, smooth, please delete for being off topic--just needed to make my point clear)
hero member
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December 19, 2015, 11:38:56 AM
A space station may not be the most interesting thing that you buy with your Monero. Have you considered immortality?

I've been researching Aubrey de Grey, Ray Kurzweil, Peter Thiel, Ellison, Brin, etc. and other people who are researching or supporting life extension. It seems that there are a lot of smart people who believe that we'll be able to realistically extend our lives to 120+ years. That will then be enough, for some of us, to survive until the point where technology allows us to extend our lives indefinitely.

But the first generation of immortals will need lots of money. Read more here:
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/03/13/silicon-valley-trying-make-humans-immortal-and-finding-some-success-311402.html





Newsflash: It's impossible to experience nothingness, therefore you can only ever experience somethingness, therefore you are eternal.



No, that doesn't equal you being eternal. It equals your experience being limited to when you are alive which is why people are trying to extend their lives.... So they can have more experiences and maybe switch a career after they've spent a natural lifetime mastering one, or maybe experience what it's like to be young again or be rich or live long enough to travel off this crappy rock that encourages the eat or be eaten lifestyle, which is why i want my investments to succeed and i can enjoy my space yacht with my hot android GFs. (see how i got that back on topic  Wink )

Perhaps you're looking at the situation too dogmatically. Deckard would surely confirm that memories (and reality) is something of a slippery fish. Impossible to confirm, absolutely.

But if it's impossible to experience nothingness, then it's impossible up experience nothingness.

Somethingness prevails.
hero member
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21 million. I want them all.
December 19, 2015, 11:32:15 AM

Getting back on topic though, we're getting back to being dangerously close to that .001 mark. I'm getting to the point where I think that even though this has been the point of major resistance for a long time, I think that if bitcoin were to spike in price right about now, we will see prices go below that I think, so I'm still waiting to get some more coinage. Do you guys think were going to be sinking below this mark?

If bitcoin rockets to $1000 and XMR stays flat at $0.50, then you can hold BTC now and get more XMR at .0005. Realistically, I can't see it going below .0005.

But you can't wait until .0005 to start buying because the volume won't be there.  
legendary
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December 19, 2015, 11:22:46 AM
A space station may not be the most interesting thing that you buy with your Monero. Have you considered immortality?

I've been researching Aubrey de Grey, Ray Kurzweil, Peter Thiel, Ellison, Brin, etc. and other people who are researching or supporting life extension. It seems that there are a lot of smart people who believe that we'll be able to realistically extend our lives to 120+ years. That will then be enough, for some of us, to survive until the point where technology allows us to extend our lives indefinitely.

But the first generation of immortals will need lots of money. Read more here:
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/03/13/silicon-valley-trying-make-humans-immortal-and-finding-some-success-311402.html



I will never understand people who advocate immortality. It's akin to being a prisoner and seeking an extension of incarceration.

Newsflash: It's impossible to experience nothingness, therefore you can only ever experience somethingness, therefore you are eternal.

All that remains is the nature of the experience, and this place falls short.

Given you are eternal, the only acceptable place is a place where you have absolute freedom. Otherwise you are a prisoner. Why the hell would you want to extend that?

Happy Saturday Everyone.

I guess this kind of thing relates to what you believe will happen after you die.  Will you die and your soul will shoot up in the clouds where gumdrop fairies and unicorns frollick and play? Probably not.  Will you die and because that there are no more neurochemical connections taking place in your brain, there will be nothingness and no more you in general? Possible, but not what I would like to believe in.

Could there be a realistic way where people are given eternal life by maybe "downloading" your conscious somewhere and then after you die you can "reprogram" it into something else which allows you keep living even longer?  Given that science and technology has gotten extremely complex, I think that this is possible as well. 

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Getting back on topic though, we're getting back to being dangerously close to that .001 mark. I'm getting to the point where I think that even though this has been the point of major resistance for a long time, I think that if bitcoin were to spike in price right about now, we will see prices go below that I think, so I'm still waiting to get some more coinage. Do you guys think were going to be sinking below this mark?
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1036
Facts are more efficient than fud
December 19, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
A space station may not be the most interesting thing that you buy with your Monero. Have you considered immortality?

I've been researching Aubrey de Grey, Ray Kurzweil, Peter Thiel, Ellison, Brin, etc. and other people who are researching or supporting life extension. It seems that there are a lot of smart people who believe that we'll be able to realistically extend our lives to 120+ years. That will then be enough, for some of us, to survive until the point where technology allows us to extend our lives indefinitely.

But the first generation of immortals will need lots of money. Read more here:
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/03/13/silicon-valley-trying-make-humans-immortal-and-finding-some-success-311402.html





Newsflash: It's impossible to experience nothingness, therefore you can only ever experience somethingness, therefore you are eternal.



No, that doesn't equal you being eternal. It equals your experience being limited to when you are alive which is why people are trying to extend their lives.... So they can have more experiences and maybe switch a career after they've spent a natural lifetime mastering one, or maybe experience what it's like to be young again or be rich or live long enough to travel off this crappy rock that encourages the eat or be eaten lifestyle, which is why i want my investments to succeed and i can enjoy my space yacht with my hot android GFs. (see how i got that back on topic  Wink )
hero member
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December 19, 2015, 11:00:42 AM
A space station may not be the most interesting thing that you buy with your Monero. Have you considered immortality?

I've been researching Aubrey de Grey, Ray Kurzweil, Peter Thiel, Ellison, Brin, etc. and other people who are researching or supporting life extension. It seems that there are a lot of smart people who believe that we'll be able to realistically extend our lives to 120+ years. That will then be enough, for some of us, to survive until the point where technology allows us to extend our lives indefinitely.

But the first generation of immortals will need lots of money. Read more here:
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/03/13/silicon-valley-trying-make-humans-immortal-and-finding-some-success-311402.html



I will never understand people who advocate immortality. It's akin to being a prisoner and seeking an extension of incarceration.

Newsflash: It's impossible to experience nothingness, therefore you can only ever experience somethingness, therefore you are eternal.

All that remains is the nature of the experience, and this place falls short.

Given you are eternal, the only acceptable place is a place where you have absolute freedom. Otherwise you are a prisoner. Why the hell would you want to extend that?

Happy Saturday Everyone.
hero member
Activity: 798
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21 million. I want them all.
December 19, 2015, 10:29:51 AM
A space station may not be the most interesting thing that you buy with your Monero. Have you considered immortality?

I've been researching Aubrey de Grey, Ray Kurzweil, Peter Thiel, Ellison, Brin, etc. and other people who are researching or supporting life extension. It seems that there are a lot of smart people who believe that we'll be able to realistically extend our lives to 120+ years. That will then be enough, for some of us, to survive until the point where technology allows us to extend our lives indefinitely.

But the first generation of immortals will need lots of money. Read more here:
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/03/13/silicon-valley-trying-make-humans-immortal-and-finding-some-success-311402.html

legendary
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Merit: 1019
December 19, 2015, 04:53:48 AM
The plan now is to buy Dracula's castle

Castles are so 2014 Bitcoin.

Maybe a space station would be fun.

Space stations are so 1971.

Lunar colony or GET REKT FILTHY CASUAL.

#HARSHMISTRESS

I was thinkin' of going way back and building some retro Great Pyramid spaceships  Cool
http://www.solcommand.com/2013/03/giza-pyramid-spaceship.html?m=1
jr. member
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December 19, 2015, 04:53:40 AM
It is a down trend if you look at the peak at April, 2015 and August 2015. Down trend for nearly a year now.

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xmr
Block 30m
Expand the chart to the beginning

Yes, $6 to $0.50 is quite a downtrend I suppose. Guess my timeline's a bit shorter than yours for now  Tongue

On a comparison, there are lots of other losses as well in startups/newer companies. Take Argos Therapeutics for example. Not to shill too hard here, but these people are working on something pretty great for a few years before Monero even existed.

They've seen tens/hundreds of millions of 'losses' by marketcap. That's just one Pharma company employing anywhere around 200+ people with no product going to market yet. These people are still going to work next year.

Not that I'm trying to trivialize anyone's losses here in Monero, losses are never great, just that I definitely agree with you about it being still too soon.

I hope everyone continues to find the resolve, peace of mind and good fortune to continue holding/buying/contributing is all.
legendary
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December 19, 2015, 04:31:49 AM
It is a down trend if you look at the peak at April, 2015 and August 2015. Down trend for nearly a year now.

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xmr
Block 30m
Expand the chart to the beginning
jr. member
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December 19, 2015, 04:25:40 AM
Monero have been crashing for a while now. Just wondering what's causing it?

I don't see it a crash. It is in the down trend. Slowly but steadily because of lack of buyer which implies lack of adoption. It is still too soon to say if it is bad or not.

2016 Goal for all should be to focus on a USD value v. XMR, I think.

With that in mind, this has been on a reasonably solid uptrend since about 28 Sep. Just a few days will mark an easy three month uptrend.

30 Nov the market cap was USD 3.687M. Today it sits at USD 5.146M, looking only at total coins in existence.

A 39.6% gain in the last three months is an absolutely fantastic turnout.

What information are you looking at that you're interpreting the last three months as a downtrend?
legendary
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December 19, 2015, 04:14:19 AM
I think gui should be releases in summer. And mid next year there should be a hard fork of monero. But not sure if this is correct though.

Maybe not the best place to ask, but why does it take so much more time?

A GUI already exists, but it's external. Works fine even with the latest beta binaries (tested).

Link: http://monero.org/monerox-client/

On Windows, last I checked, you had to force kill the daemon or MoneroX process after closing the GUI with the recent binaries, or it will remain in memory. If there wasn't this issue, I'd recommend it like you do.
legendary
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December 19, 2015, 03:56:39 AM
Monero have been crashing for a while now. Just wondering what's causing it?

I don't see it a crash. It is in the down trend. Slowly but steadily because of lack of buyer which implies lack of adoption. It is still too soon to say if it is bad or not.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
December 19, 2015, 03:16:33 AM
The plan now is to buy Dracula's castle

Castles are so 2014 Bitcoin.

Maybe a space station would be fun.

Space stations are so 1971.

Lunar colony or GET REKT FILTHY CASUAL.

#HARSHMISTRESS
legendary
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Money often costs too much.
December 19, 2015, 02:45:03 AM
A very geekish, somewhat elonmuesqué approach. Calculate in the negative health effects of radiation and prolonged Zero G exposure. And the cats would not like that litterbox on Zero G.

I would establish a mixture between †Henning Mankell's two homed approach and add some †Ernest Hemingway. A mansion in northern europe and a ranch in south Africa. Could start writing books, too.
hero member
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December 19, 2015, 02:37:02 AM
The plan now is to buy Dracula's castle

Castles are so 2014 Bitcoin.

Maybe a space station would be fun.


 
 
Well fuck. 
 
I was actually planning to write a novel about this, with a female protagonist and her friend as the main characters who go to work in such an establishment.  You would see the good intentions of the protagonist slowly warped and transformed as she has to acquiesce and play power-games with the other employees.   
 
But forget the castle. 
 
You just gave me a ridiculous idea that perhaps the first "space resort" in orbit would be a better setting?  When things start going nasty and sour for the heroes, how much more awful that they are in orbit aboard a 'space cruise ship'?  It wouldn't even have to be that futuristic; this could be set as early as 2040. 
 
Thank you.
legendary
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December 19, 2015, 01:00:12 AM
The plan now is to buy Dracula's castle

Castles are so 2014 Bitcoin.

Maybe a space station would be fun.

legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
December 18, 2015, 11:00:29 PM
Monero have been crashing for a while now. Just wondering what's causing it?

One theory is that XMR will basically be flat in USD as BTC rises until an inflection point where money starts spilling over into alts. So it will appear that XMR is perpetually crashing (in BTC) until it's suddenly not.

It's hard to say when that inflection point will be. I'm still holding some bitcoin, but if we get to $800-$1000, I plan to finish moving out and be 100% in XMR, other alts (which I'm not going to shill for), and fiat. A real crypto-boom will not be limited to BTC, although it will seem that way at first.

Alts lag, then race ahead of BTC like silver does to gold.  I think of it like a rubber band tether.

Many of XMR for lending have either been taken off the market or are being used for shorting.

The supply of cheap ~0.001 BTC XMR is tight as a drum.  A little volume would slingshot us back towards the moon.
hero member
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December 18, 2015, 10:48:43 PM
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At least, I agree [Bitcoin] is immense relative to Monero. It is tiny relative to the traditional fiat currency system.

Bitcoin is still tiny compared for example to the Somalian subset of the hawala network.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawala#Horn_of_Africa

Ignore the traditional fiat nonsense; focus on System D.  The fiat will burn itself out as the paper inevitably returns to its intrinsic value.

Watch out informal remittance systems, we're gunning for ya!   Cheesy

Good points. It is easy to forget how tiny this crypto economy really is, including Bitcoin.

Did you see this picture?

http://i2.wp.com/money.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/all-the-worlds-money-and-markets-viz.png?w=1130

legendary
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December 18, 2015, 10:07:55 PM
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At least, I agree [Bitcoin] is immense relative to Monero. It is tiny relative to the traditional fiat currency system.

Bitcoin is still tiny compared for example to the Somalian subset of the hawala network.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawala#Horn_of_Africa

Ignore the traditional fiat nonsense; focus on System D.  The fiat will burn itself out as the paper inevitably returns to its intrinsic value.

Watch out informal remittance systems, we're gunning for ya!   Cheesy

Good points. It is easy to forget how tiny this crypto economy really is, including Bitcoin.
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