Author

Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1641. (Read 3313576 times)

legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
November 17, 2015, 06:53:54 PM

If I recall correctly, fluffypony stated a while ago that they were waiting for i2p to have a stable release before it would be integrated into Monero.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
November 17, 2015, 06:47:35 PM

The issue is that you give up some privacy to the operator of the remote node. Encrypting the connection doesn't solve that but does help a bit with eavesdroppers.

The best privacy is achieved by running your own node (especially once i2p is integrated). This may serve as an incentive to run nodes, for people who care about "the node incentive problem". In a privacy-oriented coin it is logical to believe that many people would actually care about their privacy, and therefore have an incentive to run a node. But there is no way to know how well that will work out in practice.

On the matter of i2p...take a look over at https://github.com/monero-project?tab=repositories -- you might find that interesting.

Quote
edited to add: hell, jwinterms lite wallet is technically a lightweight client.
https://forum.getmonero.org/20/general-discussion/166/lightwallet-a-lightweight-monero-gui-account-manager

it defaults to a remote node.

Yes, same idea of connecting to a remote node.

Will i2p be in 0.9?
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
November 17, 2015, 05:40:19 PM
I`m still waiting for a lightweight client, perhaps if you can get it touch with electrum's devs ,they could implement it.
Just my 2 moneros.
I just use https://mymonero.com/ and https://monerodice.net/ for storage at the moment and get a bit of ROI bankrolling the house.

A webwallet is not as secure as a lightweight. Plus I want to keep them offline and use the lightweight to broadcast the TX.

You can do that with simplewallet and a remote node. You give up some privacy but that will likely be the case with any lightweight wallet as well.

at some point, couldn't we do some kind of SSL/SSH thing wherein a simplewallet user could connect to a remote node via an encrypted connection? maybe it does already I dunno. Or maybe this is what you guys are referencing to the "node as service" concept....

The issue is that you give up some privacy to the operator of the remote node. Encrypting the connection doesn't solve that but does help a bit with eavesdroppers.

The best privacy is achieved by running your own node (especially once i2p is integrated). This may serve as an incentive to run nodes, for people who care about "the node incentive problem". In a privacy-oriented coin it is logical to believe that many people would actually care about their privacy, and therefore have an incentive to run a node. But there is no way to know how well that will work out in practice.

On the matter of i2p...take a look over at https://github.com/monero-project?tab=repositories -- you might find that interesting.

Quote
edited to add: hell, jwinterms lite wallet is technically a lightweight client.
https://forum.getmonero.org/20/general-discussion/166/lightwallet-a-lightweight-monero-gui-account-manager

it defaults to a remote node.

Yes, same idea of connecting to a remote node.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
November 17, 2015, 05:27:56 PM
...

Yes that is right. The block time and 60 KB full reward zone (minimum amount of transactions allowed in each block without any penalty) can't be changed without a hard fork, so that will wait until April or so. Most of the features of 0.9 will be active right away though.

So would I presume the now min 0.6 XMR (based on 2 min blocks) per block tail emission since that was not included in the official 0.8.6.6. binaries as far as I understand.

The 0.3 minimum has been in the source code for a long time and included in the beta binaries. You are correct it was not in the 0.8.6.6 binaries. The fork code changes that to 0.6 at the same time that the block time doubles (in fact, the code now scales it for whatever the block time happens to be).
legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 1050
Monero Core Team
November 17, 2015, 05:19:35 PM
...

Yes that is right. The block time and 60 KB full reward zone (minimum amount of transactions allowed in each block without any penalty) can't be changed without a hard fork, so that will wait until April or so. Most of the features of 0.9 will be active right away though.

So would I presume the now min 0.6 XMR (based on 2 min blocks) per block tail emission since that was not included in the official 0.8.6.6. binaries as far as I understand.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
November 17, 2015, 05:08:50 PM
It is a major release because it includes the completed development goals, including databases and 32bit / ARM support. It also includes the blocktime fork from 1 min to 2 min and the tail emission at 0.3 XMR (1 min blocks) 0.6 XMR (two min blocks). It will also be the first official release in over 11 months.

This is a question more for Smooth, but are there any specific new developments tested by the development of Aeon that are going into the 0.9 release coming up soon?

1. The block time change that was previously done for AEON has informed the work to change Monero.

2. There was a bug fix to align the depth requirements between spending outputs and mixins (avoiding a potential privacy leak) that was done in AEON and then merged into Monero for 0.9.

I don't remember any others at this moment, but it's possible I forgot something.

So 0.9 will have 2 min blocks, or not yet?


As I understand it, 0.9 will have the code for the 2 minute blocks, and then at some point after its released it will fork, and the new fork will have 2 minute blocks and min mixins.

Regarding min mixins, read this -> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3n06qw/there_seems_to_be_some_confusion_around_the/.

TL;DR: It will already be set to minimum when 0.9 is released, only enforced after April. In other words, everyone that uses 0.9 will already have a minimum mixin of 3.

Wrt the 2 minute blocks, I think they will go "live" after that April fork. Code will be included in 0.9 though.

Yes that is right. The block time and 60 KB full reward zone (minimum amount of transactions allowed in each block without any penalty) can't be changed without a hard fork, so that will wait until April or so. Most of the features of 0.9 will be active right away though.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
November 17, 2015, 10:37:38 AM
It is a major release because it includes the completed development goals, including databases and 32bit / ARM support. It also includes the blocktime fork from 1 min to 2 min and the tail emission at 0.3 XMR (1 min blocks) 0.6 XMR (two min blocks). It will also be the first official release in over 11 months.

This is a question more for Smooth, but are there any specific new developments tested by the development of Aeon that are going into the 0.9 release coming up soon?

1. The block time change that was previously done for AEON has informed the work to change Monero.

2. There was a bug fix to align the depth requirements between spending outputs and mixins (avoiding a potential privacy leak) that was done in AEON and then merged into Monero for 0.9.

I don't remember any others at this moment, but it's possible I forgot something.

So 0.9 will have 2 min blocks, or not yet?


As I understand it, 0.9 will have the code for the 2 minute blocks, and then at some point after its released it will fork, and the new fork will have 2 minute blocks and min mixins.

Regarding min mixins, read this -> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3n06qw/there_seems_to_be_some_confusion_around_the/.

TL;DR: It will already be set to minimum when 0.9 is released, only enforced after April. In other words, everyone that uses 0.9 will already have a minimum mixin of 3.

Wrt the 2 minute blocks, I think they will go "live" after that April fork. Code will be included in 0.9 though.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1008
November 17, 2015, 07:46:41 AM
It is a major release because it includes the completed development goals, including databases and 32bit / ARM support. It also includes the blocktime fork from 1 min to 2 min and the tail emission at 0.3 XMR (1 min blocks) 0.6 XMR (two min blocks). It will also be the first official release in over 11 months.

This is a question more for Smooth, but are there any specific new developments tested by the development of Aeon that are going into the 0.9 release coming up soon?

1. The block time change that was previously done for AEON has informed the work to change Monero.

2. There was a bug fix to align the depth requirements between spending outputs and mixins (avoiding a potential privacy leak) that was done in AEON and then merged into Monero for 0.9.

I don't remember any others at this moment, but it's possible I forgot something.

So 0.9 will have 2 min blocks, or not yet?


As I understand it, 0.9 will have the code for the 2 minute blocks, and then at some point after its released it will fork, and the new fork will have 2 minute blocks and min mixins.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
November 17, 2015, 07:21:32 AM
It is a major release because it includes the completed development goals, including databases and 32bit / ARM support. It also includes the blocktime fork from 1 min to 2 min and the tail emission at 0.3 XMR (1 min blocks) 0.6 XMR (two min blocks). It will also be the first official release in over 11 months.

This is a question more for Smooth, but are there any specific new developments tested by the development of Aeon that are going into the 0.9 release coming up soon?

1. The block time change that was previously done for AEON has informed the work to change Monero.

2. There was a bug fix to align the depth requirements between spending outputs and mixins (avoiding a potential privacy leak) that was done in AEON and then merged into Monero for 0.9.

I don't remember any others at this moment, but it's possible I forgot something.

So 0.9 will have 2 min blocks, or not yet?
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
November 16, 2015, 11:28:56 PM
It is a major release because it includes the completed development goals, including databases and 32bit / ARM support. It also includes the blocktime fork from 1 min to 2 min and the tail emission at 0.3 XMR (1 min blocks) 0.6 XMR (two min blocks). It will also be the first official release in over 11 months.

This is a question more for Smooth, but are there any specific new developments tested by the development of Aeon that are going into the 0.9 release coming up soon?

1. The block time change that was previously done for AEON has informed the work to change Monero.

2. There was a bug fix to align the depth requirements between spending outputs and mixins (avoiding a potential privacy leak) that was done in AEON and then merged into Monero for 0.9.

I don't remember any others at this moment, but it's possible I forgot something.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1004
November 16, 2015, 11:25:43 PM
It is a major release because it includes the completed development goals, including databases and 32bit / ARM support. It also includes the blocktime fork from 1 min to 2 min and the tail emission at 0.3 XMR (1 min blocks) 0.6 XMR (two min blocks). It will also be the first official release in over 11 months.

This is a question more for Smooth, but are there any specific new developments tested by the development of Aeon that are going into the 0.9 release coming up soon?
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1008
November 16, 2015, 04:51:02 PM
I`m still waiting for a lightweight client, perhaps if you can get it touch with electrum's devs ,they could implement it.
Just my 2 moneros.
I just use https://mymonero.com/ and https://monerodice.net/ for storage at the moment and get a bit of ROI bankrolling the house.

A webwallet is not as secure as a lightweight. Plus I want to keep them offline and use the lightweight to broadcast the TX.

You can do that with simplewallet and a remote node. You give up some privacy but that will likely be the case with any lightweight wallet as well.

at some point, couldn't we do some kind of SSL/SSH thing wherein a simplewallet user could connect to a remote node via an encrypted connection? maybe it does already I dunno. Or maybe this is what you guys are referencing to the "node as service" concept....

regardless, connecting to a remote node with simplewallet seems like a good topic for another imgur slideset

edited to add: hell, jwinterms lite wallet is technically a lightweight client.
https://forum.getmonero.org/20/general-discussion/166/lightwallet-a-lightweight-monero-gui-account-manager

it defaults to a remote node.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
November 16, 2015, 04:21:59 PM
I`m still waiting for a lightweight client, perhaps if you can get it touch with electrum's devs ,they could implement it.
Just my 2 moneros.
I just use https://mymonero.com/ and https://monerodice.net/ for storage at the moment and get a bit of ROI bankrolling the house.

A webwallet is not as secure as a lightweight. Plus I want to keep them offline and use the lightweight to broadcast the TX.

You can do that with simplewallet and a remote node. You give up some privacy but that will likely be the case with any lightweight wallet as well.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1009
JAYCE DESIGNS - http://bit.ly/1tmgIwK
November 16, 2015, 04:17:57 PM
I`m still waiting for a lightweight client, perhaps if you can get it touch with electrum's devs ,they could implement it.
Just my 2 moneros.
I just use https://mymonero.com/ and https://monerodice.net/ for storage at the moment and get a bit of ROI bankrolling the house.

A webwallet is not as secure as a lightweight. Plus I want to keep them offline and use the lightweight to broadcast the TX.

sr. member
Activity: 453
Merit: 500
hello world
November 16, 2015, 02:25:40 PM
good resistance has been built up the last few days on the ask side. most below 160k.
bids stay low with difficulties reaching over 100 btc. Lips sealed

altcoins in general look promising to me for now. i like the new presence of monero on youtube etc, cool to see people interested. gives me the feeling i am not completely crazy Grin

lol TC good to see you alive hihi. better sell than jump the bridge Grin

3d macd cross soon and many altcoins look the same, it will be exciting to see how this unfolds.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
November 15, 2015, 04:14:12 PM
Looks like I was able to create some upward pressure on Monero with the speech.
The good news is, this is only the beginning.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1012
Still wild and free
November 15, 2015, 03:35:59 PM
I caused the downtrend

Illusion of grandeur.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
November 15, 2015, 03:33:08 PM
Lol you guys are still holding moonero? Tongue

Not just hodling but buying little from here and there.
I caused the downtrend but the good news is I am ready for the bull run now.  Roll Eyes
full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100
November 15, 2015, 02:06:47 PM
I`m still waiting for a lightweight client, perhaps if you can get it touch with electrum's devs ,they could implement it.
Just my 2 moneros.
I just use https://mymonero.com/ and https://monerodice.net/ for storage at the moment and get a bit of ROI bankrolling the house.
Jump to: