Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1932. (Read 3314330 times)

Like I said I take that back Kazuki.  I assumed there was a big scam going on when there isn't because it's obvious who the big holders are and it's obvious they are not the devs which I assumed it was because it looked like that to me for last 8 weeks.  Anyway don't worry i'm giving up on BCT its becoming like pure confrontation. cheers

I said "more" and no I don't see a good case for that.

I think all these markets are pretty manipulated. Mostly because they are tiny and it's easy to do with relatively little money, and its widely acknowledged that there are whale groups, pump-and-dump groups, etc. running all over the entire market. If they're not manipulating a particular coin it's because they don't see an opportunity is all.


Go on the dash thread you will see otoh talking about how many new masternodes he's buying and so forth. Different coin, different whale, same shit.

Also,

Not going to do anything about but continue to increase my holdings at your expense.  I've spent too much time in the box pointing that shit out.  You guys don't care.  I don't care either.  Sometimes I just can't help myself though.  Someone that sees so many problems with other coins is too blinded to see their own.  I just have to bring that shit back into perspective.

In the words of the great Smooth....

"But, but, but.....Dash!"  This thread is about monero not Dash.  Please keep it on topic.

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Ohh you edited your post.  I like the first one better where you admitted to the monero manipulation.  I'll keep that one.

Stop attacking other people Kazuki and accusing them of scams and how they just care about profit, over and over again, and you won't get people then coming to accuse you of scams.  Just work on your project and add value to it and if you see a scam then just tell people your opinion once and with proper evidence instead of all speculation, or they won't listen.

I take back some of the stuff I said to Fluffy because TBH I thought there was some real-serious scamming going on.  Now after researching and seeing Poloniex there's just a lot of whales doing what whales do I think and it's up to the community/devs how they run their coin. I credited he and Smooth with too much, but with their attacks on Dash it made me think Monero was a scam exactly how you accuse Dash of being so that shows you how dumb FUDing is if you think it gets you anywhere.

Anyway relax Kazuki this is last post from me on BCT for a long time possibly ever, too much negative energy is not good and I bought what I wanted so no reason for me to be here now...i'm visualizing a peaceful world where Monero and Dash can co-exist, can we do this?....cheers.

Really?  You don't see a good case for Monero's manipulation?  Sure all coins have whales.  Its probably the same ones in every coin but I know you've been in the tollbox enough to know better than that.  How many times have whales told people to buy because we will never see this price again and then they dump that shit right on their minion's heads.  Then again they tell you suckers to buy.  'We're never going below .0034 again'.  Hurry up and buy your cheap coins.  Then BAM.  Dump that shit. 

When your king was busy with his game.  People wanted to know where their support was.  Why are the walls gone?  How low can we go?  He said he was too busy to worry about the price.  He wasn't going to support it.  People could dump it to whatever and he wouldn't care.  He was too busy to keep the walls up.  At one point he claimed that at any given time he controlled atleast 1/3 of both sides of the board.  That's a lot of influence if you ask me.

I will say that this activity has slowed down over the last few months but 6+ months ago it was running rampant.  Your monero whales were very vocal about their market control and manipulation.  Many of you will not call it that so spin it however you want but it wont change the fact that monero is controlled by just a few people.

Show me another coin that has well known whales not just fanboys and minions doing this same activity openly in a trollbox.

He's inserting the scenario that he's reacting to, keep me out of it. I've listed many ways in which the Evan circus comes undone, but not ever on this thread.

I agree and don't think the Monero devs would dump and run off either especially after seeing Poloniex think i understand better...both dev groups have been there for 1+ year, if either were dumpers they would have done it already because dumpers don't hang around especially through ATHs.  As to how much coins each has, IDK, but I said before, if they are staying the course and not dumpers, i hope they have enough coins so they don't lose motivation, it is important.  BTW I only post on Monero when I see all the "Dash is a SCAM!!!" posts and end up on some other thread, it's not productive I think I will take a break from BCT because I only came back online to see how Dash rebrand went.

Lots of drama here. So what were the predictions? TL;DR

Regardless of his affiliations, I concur with him that the Darkcoin team likely never is going to dump. Why'd they ever do that? Slowly seeping is another thing entirely. Other big holders might though, and some have already done so recently.

It's a theory and a speculation of his. Just like any other writing in here. BlockaFett finally actually writes something that's not trolling per se, and a legitimate observation. If someone else where to have written what he just wrote, the sentiment towards the content would have been different. I suggest welcoming his new-found tone a bit more.
There's nothing wrong about being concerned that polo is the only legit exchange for Monero.

Blocka when this sham comes falling around you, just remember you were warned. I'm not even going to laugh or pull a "I told you so." That thing has scam written all over it, and in hindsight, you'll get what some from Monero, and others, have been saying. You've been told--it's the people who haven't or don't realize how dash got its start that I'm going to make sure see it for what it is. 500k in an hour will never be a "instamine," it will always be an instamine no quotation marks required.

Honestly, I would never have guessed you felt like that about Dash Generalize.

If I believed the Monero FUD that he's an 'instaminer' who will dump in week 3, but obviously he's still here in week 70 coding new stuff all day like instant transactions and he grew it to be the leading alt so i would have to be pretty new to think that that guy was an insta-dumper.  

Monero markets would worry me a lot more about people dumping and running off than the dash team...just sayin...poloniex situation isn't healthy...needs fixing

That's all the proof I have, and your right, it's not conclusive, Warz could be lying and it's somebody else, I can't prove that...just sharing the info, if you don't agree I respect that, and no need for me to post it again.

My guess is this will turn out as well as your trading, dashboy.

Its pretty simple - XMR is effectively a single-exchange coin, and on that exchange there is a constant floating buywall way-bigger than any small XMR investors can touch, being moved up and down, with the whales who own it talking about it in the trollbox - the proof is the whale's words themselves Kazuke!  

Because I don't know what Warz or whoever is going to decide next.  Maybe tomorrow they wake up and want a different coin..  Every time I traded I bought / sold at the worse possible time..  Even with Warz guarantee I would get it wrong...not a trader.  I just accumulate what I think will be around in the long term based on what the devs say their long term goals are and whether I believe they will achieve it or not from researching it.

Because he was on there all day writing about it in the trollbox lol...

First he was talking about 'price manipulation' lol



Then Monero price dumped to 0.0023 he first added some 50BTC walls, then he just bought up the books:



Then he was adding a 40k XMR sell order for like 2 seconds and removing it  and said he was 'painting the charts'



It looks like pretty much all of the buying was by him / his associates today (although he got some dumping at .0025 and pulled the walls down to where they are now)



It's legal what he is doing, not a crime.  But my point is, because this is how it is, it's quite easy to predict XMR based on this, don't need TA....

I'm not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing, but if the part about being "quite easy to predict" where true then you should making a lot of money trading Monero, right?

I don't really see a good case that Monero is more influenced by whales than any other coin. They all have their whales.

How can you be sure its him, how do you know other person that was there didn't put the Bitcoins so poor Warz wouldn't look so foolish? He could not have 2 bitcoin to rub together, and here you are embarrassing yourself with your crazy theories. Its like you are trying to find the real ring signature again.  

Sure, it's not exactly a secret there I think:



^BTW that is an example of real evidence what a specific person did, not a chart showing coins you can't say even who all the people were during the launch, never mind what one person mined - that would be v. scammy