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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1949. (Read 3314330 times)

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hello world
April 16, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
Sold all my XMR. i will buy back at 0.0020-0.0015 Cool
see you at 0.01  Cool

+1  Grin

some wise man once said it's way more dangerous to not hold monero compared to holding it.

but lets see it positive, maybe your panic buy back will trigger the next big move up, so it could be worse (happend to me no joke)
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legendary
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April 16, 2015, 02:13:32 PM
Sold all my XMR. i will buy back at 0.0020-0.0015 Cool
see you at 0.01  Cool
legendary
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April 16, 2015, 01:59:49 PM
Sold all my XMR. i will buy back at 0.0005-0.0010 Cool

That's what most guys said with within the 0.0010-0.0015 range, we all know how that played out. 
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April 16, 2015, 01:52:19 PM
Sold all my XMR. i will buy back at 0.0020-0.0015 Cool
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hello world
April 16, 2015, 11:11:57 AM
280 support gets penetrated, will it hold?
funny to see r/bitcoin talk about us. some over there really think bitcoin will be anonymous one day Roll Eyes
i also like to see peter todd taking a stand regarding monero.

action now! 0.00283
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April 16, 2015, 09:27:02 AM
Price action couldn't be more boring Grin

On a positive note I orderered some physical Moneroj from cryptonic.net at 0.004 and higher BTC price too



Should be arriving soon Cool

legendary
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April 16, 2015, 03:54:37 AM

it happened to Hal Finney, so this is certainly real

I hope we will see him again.
In the afterlife?

He got cryo'ed
Yes , I know- question still stands. Don't want to go OT so will leave it at that.
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April 16, 2015, 03:47:24 AM

it happened to Hal Finney, so this is certainly real

I hope we will see him again.
In the afterlife?

He got cryo'ed
legendary
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April 16, 2015, 02:49:17 AM

it happened to Hal Finney, so this is certainly real

I hope we will see him again.
In the afterlife?
sr. member
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April 16, 2015, 02:25:06 AM

it happened to Hal Finney, so this is certainly real

I hope we will see him again.
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April 16, 2015, 02:11:32 AM
What happened to Hal was truly abominable, he spent his last days fighting off extortion attempts and whatnot.

Gov I suppose?
legendary
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April 15, 2015, 10:07:11 PM
This is the potential. The potential is not to beat DRK or beat BTC. It is to become free of debt money slavery, together.

I don't think we'll ever be free of debt money slavery. What will stop banks from issuing "federally insured" certificates using Monero as lending leverage?

The only thing that effectively stops it is cryptocurrencies being useful and efficient for commerce. Then you get an application of reverse Gresham's Law where the softer money is rejected by the market.

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April 15, 2015, 08:30:22 PM
This is the potential. The potential is not to beat DRK or beat BTC. It is to become free of debt money slavery, together.

I don't think we'll ever be free of debt money slavery. What will stop banks from issuing "federally insured" certificates using Monero as lending leverage?

It's still not a waste of time, however, because with crypto at least we control the narrative, and the powers that be can't confiscate our wealth unless we opt-in to their system. Many of us will opt-in, unfortunately, because they will provide compelling reasons to do so. Only a small percentage of us will be "free", and it will come at a significant cost.
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
April 15, 2015, 08:10:28 PM


Great post. I agree with everything that i know enough about to comment on. Though we might be pleasantly surprised. Especially if there is a catalyzing event such as people being kidnapped by the state as a result of block chain analysis.

Wow. Is that something that big bitcoin holders actually fear ?

I would think they would fear the day it loses all fungibility. The day when LEA start seizing coins for any previous iteration they were connected to.
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April 15, 2015, 04:48:31 PM
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April 15, 2015, 04:47:17 PM


Great post. I agree with everything that i know enough about to comment on. Though we might be pleasantly surprised. Especially if there is a catalyzing event such as people being kidnapped by the state as a result of block chain analysis.

Wow. Is that something that big bitcoin holders actually fear ?

I don't know about the big holders. But I would definitely fear it if i were running a dark market business or a dark market customer.

it happened to Hal Finney, so this is certainly real
legendary
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Still wild and free
April 15, 2015, 04:10:00 PM
Was at "DevCore London" bitcoin conference. Quite some mentions of privacy concerns, more than before as far as I can tell. Surprisingly knowledge of privacy cutting edge technics stops at "coinjoin", even for *very* famous bitcoin devs.
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April 15, 2015, 02:12:08 PM


Great post. I agree with everything that i know enough about to comment on. Though we might be pleasantly surprised. Especially if there is a catalyzing event such as people being kidnapped by the state as a result of block chain analysis.

Wow. Is that something that big bitcoin holders actually fear ?

I don't know about the big holders. But I would definitely fear it if i were running a dark market business or a dark market customer.
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April 15, 2015, 01:04:02 PM


Great post. I agree with everything that i know enough about to comment on. Though we might be pleasantly surprised. Especially if there is a catalyzing event such as people being kidnapped by the state as a result of block chain analysis.

Wow. Is that something that big bitcoin holders actually fear ?
legendary
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April 15, 2015, 10:58:24 AM
My Long-Term Outlook:

Bulls are unable to protect $300 BTCUSD or $1 XMRUSD price levels. Now XMR and BTC must look to their "real economies" (non-speculative uses) as baseline support. Because XMR and BTC both have double-digit supply inflation, their real economies must expand at a triple-digit rate to safely overcome supply inflation. Let's look at the real economies.

XMR's real economy is driven mostly by Crypto-Kingdom.
BTC's real economy is driven mostly by Silk Road's descendants. (NOT Coinbase, Bitpay, Dell, Microsoft -- they don't soak up supply. They juggle bitcoins and then throw them back onto the market.)

Silk Road's descendants are not transparent so it is difficult to measure this economy's expansion. We can see that the number of listings has increased, but not at triple-digit rates. Crypto-Kingdom is more transparent. Its growth is good, but maintaining a triple-digit growth rate of players and economy will be difficult. Without the bulls on our side, we have to prepare for a long, drawn-out decline to baseline support, where almost no one wants BTC and XMR except for Silk Road users and Crypto-Kingdom players. Where they are the only people standing between oversold price levels and oblivion.

In 2021, the inflation situation will be reversed. Bitcoin and Monero's supply inflation will be down to single-digits (closer to 2-3%), but their real economies will likely be expanding at double-digit rates. Sometime between 2015 and 2021, the pin will drop. We don't need to defeat the bears. We only have to survive them.

There is a pretty good chance that monero will take over a good portion of what you are calling the "real economy" of btc.

Aye, there is. But by then, the pie will be much bigger. The real economies of both BTC and XMR will be much more than a small handful of enterprises.

Maybe. But even if that isnt the case. Even if the whole pie shrinks, even if the total use cases shrink, if monero takes over a good portion of bitcoins dark market utility, we could be looking at sizable returns. Just by virtue of the fact that monero is so much less capitalized than bitcoin.

I would like to believe that dark net market administrators and customers would be quick to adopt new, superior alternatives. Unfortunately, humans are creatures of habit and often won't change unless forced to change. People are in the habit of using BTC and in the habit of using centralized, trust based marketplaces. We see that the dark net market rouges are very slow to adopt multisig transactions, very slow to adopt XMR, and very slow to try Open Bazaar. If I had to make a bet, I would bet that they'll still be doing the same thing years from now that they are doing today. In other words, I wouldn't peg my hopes on them being smart enough and forward looking enough to do what's in their best interests by using XMR. Some may be drawn to DASH, which may survive or even thrive for many years before the occurrence of a systemic meltdown event.

Dark net market activity is not part of XMR's real economy and may never be. Luckily for XMR, there are hundreds of millions of dollars worth of legal opportunities for XMR: offshore banking, cross-border corporate transactions, tax avoidance (not evasion),  online gambling, porn and any and all ordinary transactions where privacy is desired. The space into which XMR can expand has a trillion dollar ceiling. We don't need to worry about the ceiling. For now, Crypto Kingdom is here and it's real.

Great post. I agree with everything that i know enough about to comment on. Though we might be pleasantly surprised. Especially if there is a catalyzing event such as people being kidnapped by the state as a result of block chain analysis.
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