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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 362. (Read 3314316 times)

legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
February 10, 2018, 01:07:10 PM
Yes, better get in before we see the anon flippening becoming real. This is not an investment advise, only my personal view of things.
What do you mean by anon flippening?
I think hes talking about how I'm going to FLIP OUT if this shit coin monerov actually gets real traction.
No I'm kidding. I have no idea what hes talking about either.


With the technological advancements in privacy combined with DAG blockchains.
First of all a dag by definition isn't a blockchain. But more importantly what is this other privacy cryptocurrency? I know of none that competes with monero. You show me something with strong privacy on a DAG and i'll be spending this afternoon reading (and probably laughing at) another white paper.


Ha, this is the funniest part, calling Moneros supply infinite and then having such a high supply. When will Monero supply reach 256 million? In the year 100 million?  Cheesy

But all these forks really put Monero up there with BTC even more, now that we get our own line of scam forks.  Smiley
It is sort of funny on the surface. I know they are minting themselves 10% of the currency supply, but counting that as a separate issue, if you think about it all they are doing is moving the decimal place. It doesn't actually fundamentally change anything except the resolution at which the market capitalization of the network is divided.

If you will allow me to make an analogy; It's like they are taking a volume knob on a stereo that goes from 1 to 10 and using a magic marker to carefully add a zero to the end of each number so that it starts at 10 and goes to 100 and you are saying "I wouldn't do that if I were you, you might damage the speakers."

Insert obligatory these go to 11


Oh hey guys! You know we have been waiting for the troll indicator. These monerov guys are the best trolls we have had yet. They alone might be bringing the troll indicator to 11.
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1748
February 10, 2018, 12:59:08 PM
I think Moneros days are counted.
With the technological advancements in privacy combined with DAG blockchains Monero no longer holds a key position in the crypto space and seems like a really bad investment at this point.

and what indeed do you suggest holds said key position?

What's it like to be such a fucking dope?


All those private DAG coins. Christ what a retard.

Please tell me your hopes are pinned on a snarks based dag? I can't wait for you to lose your money. It's Darwinian, you don't deserve the money in your pocket, smarter people are due to take it from you.


Can i quote you on this when Private DAG are taking all capital and your Monero holdings are vaporizing into thin air?
Monero suffers the same fate as Bitcoin, being unscalable, expensive in transactions and an environmental disaster.

You have a choice.
- Extremely scalable free instant transactions without a significant environmental impact.
- Limited slow expensive transactions that destroy our environment.

Boy, what a hard choice...


What is with Monero trolls all having an affinity with ducks?

I mean you are more welcome than you realise, as you increase the Monero Trolling Index (which is always a bullish indication) but PLEASE be original - or if that's you,  Kwukduck  - did you lose your old account through bad security?

Or perhaps privacy issues...?
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
February 10, 2018, 12:58:13 PM
I think Moneros days are counted.
With the technological advancements in privacy combined with DAG blockchains Monero no longer holds a key position in the crypto space and seems like a really bad investment at this point.

I disagree with this. The features and the level of the technology is not the first step to evaluate an investment. Monero's community and the proejct them is trusted enough for me. I don't waste my money on other new untrusted ones.
jr. member
Activity: 97
Merit: 1
February 10, 2018, 12:51:59 PM
I think Moneros days are counted.
With the technological advancements in privacy combined with DAG blockchains Monero no longer holds a key position in the crypto space and seems like a really bad investment at this point.

and what indeed do you suggest holds said key position?

What's it like to be such a fucking dope?


All those private DAG coins. Christ what a retard.

Please tell me your hopes are pinned on a snarks based dag? I can't wait for you to lose your money. It's Darwinian, you don't deserve the money in your pocket, smarter people are due to take it from you.


Can i quote you on this when Private DAG are taking all capital and your Monero holdings are vaporizing into thin air?
Monero suffers the same fate as Bitcoin, being unscalable, expensive in transactions and an environmental disaster.

You have a choice.
- Extremely scalable free instant transactions without a significant environmental impact.
- Limited slow expensive transactions that destroy our environment.

Boy, what a hard choice...
member
Activity: 200
Merit: 47
February 10, 2018, 12:32:13 PM
Ok I'm a couple of paragraphs into this MoneroV-Roadmap and I can say with certainty this is complete fud.

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For example, Monero's infinite coin supply

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MoneroV adheres to core Austrian school of economics principles and caps the total amount of XMV coins that can be created to 256 million

Ha, this is the funniest part, calling Moneros supply infinite and then having such a high supply. When will Monero supply reach 256 million? In the year 100 million?  Cheesy

But all these forks really put Monero up there with BTC even more, now that we get our own line of scam forks.  Smiley



Their supply ends in 2070 and reach 250 millions coins. At that time they will not be able to secure their blockchain anymore. But ofcourse they dont give a shit about it.  At same moment there will exist only 25 millions of "infinite" Monero.


Number of Monero is always finite!!
And it depends of point in time.

Precisely. I'd love to know the year where infinite monero exist  Roll Eyes
member
Activity: 200
Merit: 47
February 10, 2018, 12:27:05 PM
I think Moneros days are counted.
With the technological advancements in privacy combined with DAG blockchains Monero no longer holds a key position in the crypto space and seems like a really bad investment at this point.

and what indeed do you suggest holds said key position?

What's it like to be such a fucking dope?


All those private DAG coins. Christ what a retard.

Please tell me your hopes are pinned on a snarks based dag? I can't wait for you to lose your money. It's Darwinian, you don't deserve the money in your pocket, smarter people are due to take it from you.
sr. member
Activity: 362
Merit: 258
February 10, 2018, 11:48:44 AM
I think Moneros days are counted.
With the technological advancements in privacy combined with DAG blockchains Monero no longer holds a key position in the crypto space and seems like a really bad investment at this point.

This is considered trilling yes? Ooo god let it be trolling :p
legendary
Activity: 2744
Merit: 1288
February 10, 2018, 11:46:18 AM
Ok I'm a couple of paragraphs into this MoneroV-Roadmap and I can say with certainty this is complete fud.

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For example, Monero's infinite coin supply

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MoneroV adheres to core Austrian school of economics principles and caps the total amount of XMV coins that can be created to 256 million

Ha, this is the funniest part, calling Moneros supply infinite and then having such a high supply. When will Monero supply reach 256 million? In the year 100 million?  Cheesy

But all these forks really put Monero up there with BTC even more, now that we get our own line of scam forks.  Smiley



Their supply ends in 2070 and reach 250 millions coins. At that time they will not be able to secure their blockchain anymore. But ofcourse they dont give a shit about it.  At same moment there will exist only 25 millions of "infinite" Monero.


Number of Monero is always finite!!
And it depends of point in time.
jr. member
Activity: 97
Merit: 1
February 10, 2018, 11:44:34 AM
I think Moneros days are counted.
With the technological advancements in privacy combined with DAG blockchains Monero no longer holds a key position in the crypto space and seems like a really bad investment at this point.
member
Activity: 200
Merit: 47
February 10, 2018, 11:06:14 AM
What is the real deal behind monero lately. It was going great for few months last year?

topkek
jr. member
Activity: 112
Merit: 2
February 10, 2018, 10:05:12 AM
What is the real deal behind monero lately. It was going great for few months last year?
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
February 10, 2018, 09:56:44 AM
good time to buy
Yes, better get in before we see the anon flippening becoming real. This is not an investment advise, only my personal view of things.
What do you mean by anon flippening?
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
February 10, 2018, 09:55:41 AM
Ok I'm a couple of paragraphs into this MoneroV-Roadmap and I can say with certainty this is complete fud.

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For example, Monero's infinite coin supply

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MoneroV adheres to core Austrian school of economics principles and caps the total amount of XMV coins that can be created to 256 million

Ha, this is the funniest part, calling Moneros supply infinite and then having such a high supply. When will Monero supply reach 256 million? In the year 100 million?  Cheesy

But all these forks really put Monero up there with BTC even more, now that we get our own line of scam forks.  Smiley


Yes.  this is a great point.  10 Merit sent! Wink

In the year 2100 there would be 31,456,000 XMR  vs ~8 times as many  MCASH (MoneroV haha).

Even in the year 3500 there would still be less XMR than "XMV".
sr. member
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Merit: 251
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February 10, 2018, 06:16:48 AM
good time to buy
Yes, better get in before we see the anon flippening becoming real. This is not an investment advise, only my personal view of things.
full member
Activity: 200
Merit: 114
February 10, 2018, 05:52:48 AM
Ok I'm a couple of paragraphs into this MoneroV-Roadmap and I can say with certainty this is complete fud.

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For example, Monero's infinite coin supply

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MoneroV adheres to core Austrian school of economics principles and caps the total amount of XMV coins that can be created to 256 million

Ha, this is the funniest part, calling Moneros supply infinite and then having such a high supply. When will Monero supply reach 256 million? In the year 100 million?  Cheesy

But all these forks really put Monero up there with BTC even more, now that we get our own line of scam forks.  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
February 10, 2018, 04:52:50 AM
Fork is at least starting at the point of monero.

The lazier scams were even just monero "token" shit.

Bold claims.



No, it is a regressed and twisted starting point.  Extrapolating out, it should be similar to bytecoin before Monero gets bullet proofs.  If it lasts that long.
legendary
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Free spirit
February 10, 2018, 04:35:23 AM
Fork is at least starting at the point of monero.

The lazier scams were even just monero "token" shit.

Bold claims.


newbie
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February 10, 2018, 04:34:30 AM
good time to buy
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1748
February 10, 2018, 04:22:47 AM
Ok I'm a couple of paragraphs into this MoneroV-Roadmap and I can say with certainty this is complete fud.

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Unfortunately, Monero has suffered from several drawbacks.
Please continue. Lets hear about all these drawbacks.


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For example, Monero's infinite coin supply
Bullshit. The tail emission is useful. It's a great feature. It means that there will always be a reward for miners and if you look at the amount that is being produced it will never create significant inflation and so never negatively impact users except to the extent which they are paying for the necessary service of securing the blockchain.


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the centralization of decision making that prevents the implementation of new features
This is wrong on multiple levels. It's like an onion. It has layers of wrong. First of all the decision making is not centralized. Has anyone ever submitted a useful pull request and had it denied by some sort of monero overlord? Second if monero were centralized that would ASSIST in the smooth implementation of new features. One could argue that it wouldn't be worth the cost but it would help new features be implemented more easily. And finally, monero has no problem implementing new features. Our dev team implements new features all the time.


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The scaling issue of a bloated blockchain, the high transaction fees
This problem is hard. Lets see you guys go solve it so easly. You say you are going to. Well I'll believe it when I see it. And you have to do it without breaking any of the existing core features. That means RingCT must remain intact. Better get to work.


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and the growing hash rate that is mainly based on mass usage of botents and unsuspected browser based miners that prevents genuine miners to compete.
First of all, who the hell cares where hashing power comes from? Who are you to judge that a botnet isn't "a genuine miner". What they are doing may be unethical but it doesn't make their hashrate contribution not genuine. And how are you going to solve this anyway? It is a natural outgrowth of the fact that one of moneros useful and good features is that cpu's are competitive with gpu's and it is ASIC resistant.


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Some critical flaws that cannot be fixed rapidly due to Monero's voluntary donation based development process has deterred Monero’s widespread adoption.
Oh yea let me tell you. It's such a problem that no one premined monero. That's just what we need. Some brave soul to fix that problem for us.


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Due to these circumstances, it is better to create a hard-fork split that will indefinitely fix these problems.
Oh someone is going to fall on that sword for us! Chivalry isn't dead.


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MoneroV adheres to core Austrian school of economics principles and caps the total amount of XMV coins that can be created to 256 million
Right because the Austrians dont support a gold standard or anything, and gold doesn't have, oh lets see, a tail emission. GTFO.


That's it guys. I think I'm going to lose my lunch if I go any further. This is far enough.

Thanks for dealing with this, I read it a day or two back and was fuming, too.

But if the information is disseminating, a proper critique is good to have on record.  

On the upside imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - so for a fork to happen does actually confer status on Monero, shit coins are not often forked, just good ones.   Yes, it's annoying, but it will not hurt Monero, just increase awareness.  It cannot be better, but it can increase the value (and price) of the coin it poorly imitates.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
February 10, 2018, 01:00:47 AM
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Some critical flaws that cannot be fixed rapidly due to Monero's voluntary donation based development process has deterred Monero’s widespread adoption.
Oh yea let me tell you. It's such a problem that no one premined monero. That's just what we need. Some brave soul to fix that problem for us.


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Due to these circumstances, it is better to create a hard-fork split that will indefinitely fix these problems.
Oh someone is going to fall on that sword for us! Chivalry isn't dead.
So  you didn't get to the part where they are keeping 10% of the coins off the top for themselves?  ROFL  

No but I did correctly assume.

You know I said the following earlier.

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What is their gripe with the current leadership? What pull request were they unable to get merged?

Turns out we found their gripe. It appears the problem is that the dev team wouldn't give them 10% of the currency supply! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy No but seriously... I know that feeling. I have that same problem!
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