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November 15, 2017, 01:50:02 AM
... this ... will cost 1000 usd next year ...

... will cost 1000 usd when dash will cost 4000.

I think next year is possible but not probable.  My central estimate is q1 2019. What you do in your trousers is of no interest to me.

I am no expert on dash, but consider it conceivable, if unlikely, that it may be 4000 in the same quarter; however, it is at least equally likely that a reflexive cascade of masternode liquidations, or instamine dishoarding, or a high-visibility compromise - take your pick; surely compromise would lead to a torrent of liquidation - will take dash down to double digits, even single, at that time.


Monero a 1000 usd? That would be nice Smiley

Don't forget its going to hit $425 in december !..................  Roll Eyes
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November 15, 2017, 01:42:40 AM
So how many of you ShortMeMore? So how is your teory about rising nomore when btc falls? Moroneros... Hypocrits. Biggest and worst community. Hodlers scared and weak lol. Good to short.
0.015 roea not hold test of 0.011 incoming

I'm rooting for your .011 prediction.  I'll go ahead and set some buy orders at .0114.  Happy if they're filled.  happy if they aren't.

Still waiting...  Orders not filling yet. 

Congrats on your happiness, in that case.

If we are still listening to elevator music while BTC approaches 12kUSD, they shall be filled.
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November 14, 2017, 11:35:09 PM
So how many of you ShortMeMore? So how is your teory about rising nomore when btc falls? Moroneros... Hypocrits. Biggest and worst community. Hodlers scared and weak lol. Good to short.
0.015 roea not hold test of 0.011 incoming

I'm rooting for your .011 prediction.  I'll go ahead and set some buy orders at .0114.  Happy if they're filled.  happy if they aren't.

Still waiting...  Orders not filling yet. 
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November 14, 2017, 04:42:51 PM
... this ... will cost 1000 usd next year ...

... will cost 1000 usd when dash will cost 4000.

I think next year is possible but not probable.  My central estimate is q1 2019. What you do in your trousers is of no interest to me.

I am no expert on dash, but consider it conceivable, if unlikely, that it may be 4000 in the same quarter; however, it is at least equally likely that a reflexive cascade of masternode liquidations, or instamine dishoarding, or a high-visibility compromise - take your pick; surely compromise would lead to a torrent of liquidation - will take dash down to double digits, even single, at that time.


Monero a 1000 usd? That would be nice Smiley
legendary
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November 14, 2017, 04:40:27 PM
... this ... will cost 1000 usd next year ...

... will cost 1000 usd when dash will cost 4000.

I think next year is possible but not probable.  My central estimate is q1 2019. What you do in your trousers is of no interest to me.

I am no expert on dash, but consider it conceivable, if unlikely, that it may be 4000 in the same quarter; however, it is at least equally likely that a reflexive cascade of masternode liquidations, or instamine dishoarding, or a high-visibility compromise - take your pick; surely compromise would lead to a torrent of liquidation - will take dash down to double digits, even single, at that time.
legendary
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November 14, 2017, 04:30:00 PM
The Monero team is really one of the best assets we have.
In a real sense, the only asset.  Take good care of them!
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November 14, 2017, 04:06:44 PM
A lot of merges today in the master branch. This is one of the best signs of a project with a great future. The Monero team is really one of the best assets we have.

https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pulse
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November 14, 2017, 09:02:36 AM
@NeuroticFish

0% maker fee isn't really a big deal, and not uncommon. It just means that the other side of the trade is paying more of the total fee on the trade. What matters (with respect to wash trading) is whether the sum of both sides is zero. I have no idea whether that exists on Bitthumb but the screen shot doesn't show it.


From how I read that screen, you can buy a coupon and for some period of time your Maker fee and your Taker fee will be both 0.
And that means that you can play around for free. But you are right, the image doesn't explain it clearly and maybe I just assume the worse scenario.
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November 14, 2017, 04:13:15 AM
I see that any analysis is "poor house" or "meme analysis". But when any moronero says that this ShortMeMore will cost 1000 usd next year the belivers and prayers got JIZZ in their pants... This is stupid as moronero can be stupid and it shows why this crap looses to sth like dash. This is because the believers believe, hodlers hodl. All of them loose more opportunities to win. Meanwhile the noMore price holds 0.02 lvl as predicted.

Remember morons. Moronero will cost 1000 usd when dash will cost 4000.
Oh so you're a Dash shill, that explains why you're so angry.
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November 13, 2017, 09:12:56 PM
Monero is good hold but coins without cap also doesn't make much sense. Can someone elaborate on this please? my vision is too narrow i guess.

You mean emission cap. The tail emission of Monero incentivizes PoW mining in perpetuity.  Without it, XMR could not be considered a long-term store of wealth, because the network would collapse, ceteris paribus. The tail emission is low enough so that it is less than the rate at which gold is mined, and gold is clearly a stable, non-inflationary monetary metal.  Therefore, we can safely regard Monero as a non-inflationary asset.

The tail emission is small enough so that the available supply of Monero might conceivably even decrease over time, depending on the rate of loss due to corrupted or otherwise lost keys/seeds.  In any case it is certainly negligible for economic purposes, while providing a crucial incentive to secure the blockchain, hence a positive benefit to Monero holders, not a dilution.


Monero is good hold but coins without cap also doesn't make much sense. Can someone elaborate on this please? my vision is too narrow i guess.

<1% increase the first year after base emission concludes, and shrinking every year after.  Doubtful it will even keep pace with 'lost at sea' coins.

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/23/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-tail-emission



This makes sense. Thank you!
legendary
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November 13, 2017, 07:50:42 PM
Monero is good hold but coins without cap also doesn't make much sense. Can someone elaborate on this please? my vision is too narrow i guess.

<1% increase the first year after base emission concludes, and shrinking every year after.  Doubtful it will even keep pace with 'lost at sea' coins.

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/23/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-tail-emission

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November 13, 2017, 07:48:16 PM
Monero is good hold but coins without cap also doesn't make much sense. Can someone elaborate on this please? my vision is too narrow i guess.

You mean emission cap. The tail emission of Monero incentivizes PoW mining in perpetuity.  Without it, XMR could not be considered a long-term store of wealth, because the network would collapse, ceteris paribus. The tail emission is low enough so that it is less than the rate at which gold is mined, and gold is clearly a stable, non-inflationary monetary metal.  Therefore, we can safely regard Monero as a non-inflationary asset.

The tail emission is small enough so that the available supply of Monero might conceivably even decrease over time, depending on the rate of loss due to corrupted or otherwise lost keys/seeds.  In any case it is certainly negligible for economic purposes, while providing a crucial incentive to secure the blockchain, hence a positive benefit to Monero holders, not a dilution.
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November 13, 2017, 07:17:53 PM
Monero is good hold but coins without cap also doesn't make much sense. Can someone elaborate on this please? my vision is too narrow i guess.
legendary
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November 13, 2017, 07:06:21 PM
I see that any analysis is "poor house" or "meme analysis". But when any moronero says that this ShortMeMore will cost 1000 usd next year the belivers and prayers got JIZZ in their pants... This is stupid as moronero can be stupid and it shows why this crap looses to sth like dash. This is because the believers believe, hodlers hodl. All of them loose more opportunities to win. Meanwhile the noMore price holds 0.02 lvl as predicted.

Remember morons. Moronero will cost 1000 usd when dash will cost 4000.

Not sure if the misspellings and stuff are due to actual poor English, or if it's intentional to make lexical analysis difficult or just to piss off grammar Nazis.

Anyway, I don't post here much, but the way I see current situation is that Bitcoin Cash is about to deflate, and there will be crypto money looking for places to go. Of course much will go back to Bitcoin and fiat, but I expect with upcoming announcements re: multisig, hw wallets, globee and mymonero (maybe?), that XMR will start the new year closer to 0.03 than 0.02, but I'm usually wrong, so probably want to sell the 🏠 now.
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November 13, 2017, 06:37:26 PM
I see that any analysis is "poor house" or "meme analysis". But when any moronero says that this ShortMeMore will cost 1000 usd next year the belivers and prayers got JIZZ in their pants... This is stupid as moronero can be stupid and it shows why this crap looses to sth like dash. This is because the believers believe, hodlers hodl. All of them loose more opportunities to win. Meanwhile the noMore price holds 0.02 lvl as predicted.

Remember morons. Moronero will cost 1000 usd when dash will cost 4000.
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November 13, 2017, 05:17:53 PM
I do know that, monero not break 170$.

Nice try Vanga  Cheesy
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November 13, 2017, 02:27:34 PM
In the near future possible growth but I do know that, monero not break 170$. I've been watching this coin for a few months and see what the weekly triangle will not allow it. But a few days would be 150$. Possible. IMO
"the weekly triangle"

you lost me there

meme analysis once again
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November 13, 2017, 01:19:17 PM
In the near future possible growth but I do know that, monero not break 170$. I've been watching this coin for a few months and see what the weekly triangle will not allow it. But a few days would be 150$. Possible. IMO

Nice to see you can read this market as you have spent a few months studying it's movements. You have fun with your triangle analysis, Lol see you in the poor house. Smiley
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November 13, 2017, 12:52:22 PM
In the near future possible growth but I do know that, monero not break 170$. I've been watching this coin for a few months and see what the weekly triangle will not allow it. But a few days would be 150$. Possible. IMO
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November 13, 2017, 12:16:33 PM
Dash being above XMR infuriates me also... but karma always comes round eventually.  I'll dance on its grave drinking champagne purchased with my XMR.

Given that more than half of the float is locked up in masternodes, the cap of dash float is less than that of Monero, so feel free to dance.  When those masternodes are liquidated, price will be cut in half, and the total cap will be less than Monero, so you can cut up the rug yet again.

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