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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 480. (Read 3314316 times)

legendary
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November 18, 2017, 11:42:09 AM
I am sorry if this has been asked before but does Monero have lightening network support for atomic swaps?

Come on. Monero is lighting years away from Lightining networks.   Monero is developed 3 years. Bitcoin is developed 9 years. There is also way more money in Bitcoin development.   Monero is currentlly trying to get multisig, that was available on Bitcoin years ago. But this dont mean atomic swaps will not be available with Monero.

Actually Bitcoin multisig is kind of simplistic and easy. It's just a literal list of possible signers. Bytecoin did something similarly dumb years ago but it was totally incompatible with Cryptonote privacy, so what's the point? Monero's multisig is a lot more sophisticated where the number of signers doesn't change the size of the transaction, it doesn't change the verification time, it works perfectly with ring signatures (and of course RingCT) and it isn't distinguishable from regular transactions on the blockchain.

Nevertheless I agree there is a lot more money in Bitcoin development and that any kind of Monero lightning network is far off.

legendary
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November 18, 2017, 11:40:15 AM
Since this is the speculastio0n thread..

Anyone else noticed the price is creeping up nicely?  We have picked up value since yesterday's low (in USD) of circa $121 and now we're pushing up towards $130.   Monero is being acquired steadily out there and looking bullish  Wink

Sshhhhh! Don't jinx it.

It's accelerating, ain't no stopping it...
sr. member
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November 18, 2017, 11:36:22 AM
Since this is the speculastio0n thread..

Anyone else noticed the price is creeping up nicely?  We have picked up value since yesterday's low (in USD) of circa $121 and now we're pushing up towards $130.   Monero is being acquired steadily out there and looking bullish  Wink

Sshhhhh! Don't jinx it.
legendary
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November 18, 2017, 11:35:06 AM
one basic question please...let's say we have a wallet that has 1.23 balance... how i can send all of them?? and after the balance be 0.
i want to empty a wallet sending to one exchange and i do not know transfer fees of course... any help?
legendary
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November 18, 2017, 11:18:29 AM
Since this is the speculastio0n thread..

Anyone else noticed the price is creeping up nicely?  We have picked up value since yesterday's low (in USD) of circa $121 and now we're pushing up towards $130.   Monero is being acquired steadily out there and looking bullish  Wink
legendary
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November 18, 2017, 11:10:55 AM
I am sorry if this has been asked before but does Monero have lightening network support for atomic swaps?

Come on. Monero is lighting years away from Lightining networks.   Monero is developed 3 years. Bitcoin is developed 9 years. There is also way more money in Bitcoin development.   Monero is currentlly trying to get multisig, that was available on Bitcoin years ago. But this dont mean atomic swaps will not be available with Monero.
hero member
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Temporary forum vacation
November 18, 2017, 11:10:34 AM
Things I am thinking about, is the reason why Poloniex required XMR on? It put out the second alternative, replaced it with XMR, after which all of a sudden gave everything these additional markets that LTC never obtained.Perhaps LTC is simply so spunk, however I'm sensing low volume on XMR markets, and as a InchguessInch, less than LTC  had (do not include the LTC/XMR industry right now as a counter argument. that existed anyhow.Hmm ... maybe I will purchase some IFC, and trade it for XMR.I Then intend to commit everything in XMR, acquire some leverage and spunk. Gavin AndersonOrAndersson once stated BTC must be more private, so there is clear proof that XMR can make all of us wealthy.

It is difficult to predict and assess what exchanges want. In the beginning, exchanges made two things the priority. One was that the new project had a good development structure and reflected in good codes published on GitHub, this was to ensure if anything went wrong with the network, it would be able to rely on good support. Second was the wallet, exchanges need stable wallets that did not need much maintenance.

However, these days exchanges also list coins for a big fee. It costs now more than $10,000 per month to list a coin on an exchange. This is why you can see some coins are ignored by exchanges while others can suddenly jump on board for a few months (just by paying the fee).
sr. member
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November 18, 2017, 11:06:05 AM
Really hard to tell where Monero could go price wise, but I heard today that Arab states want to hide money and if they put it into Monero (or any alt) the price would rise incredibly due to the limited supply and liquidity. I do need to get some Monero, because it's the type of thing that would happen, this is crypto after all! I can see Monero over $1000 in the next 1-2 years.
Honestly, I'm really not all that surprised to hear this; with the anonymity, privacy, and lack of reversibility it would make a very good currency for a rogue country (that or perhaps they're already using cryptocurrencies and we just don't know). Regardless, if this was the case it'd sure be good for Monero's market cap.
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November 18, 2017, 10:19:05 AM
I am sorry if this has been asked before but does Monero have lightening network support for atomic swaps?
legendary
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November 17, 2017, 08:30:34 PM
There are people in this thread who have lost more value in dust and misplaced private keys than you will ever see in total in your entire miserable life.

Not to mention the vasty deep losses in boating accidents.

I was on a boat between Maui and Molokai last week.  I foolishly leaned over the edge and *ploop*.  My cryptosteel went down to the depths.

When will I learn?

Just tatoo it on your tongue.  Make sure to do it reversed, to better read it in the mirror.  Shouldn't be that hard. 
legendary
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November 17, 2017, 08:25:32 PM
There are people in this thread who have lost more value in dust and misplaced private keys than you will ever see in total in your entire miserable life.

Not to mention the vasty deep losses in boating accidents.

I was on a boat between Maui and Molokai last week.  I foolishly leaned over the edge and *ploop*.  My cryptosteel went down to the depths.

When will I learn?
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
November 17, 2017, 07:51:46 PM
There are people in this thread who have lost more value in dust and misplaced private keys than you will ever see in total in your entire miserable life.

Not to mention the vasty deep losses in boating accidents.
member
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November 17, 2017, 07:18:17 PM
Really hard to tell where Monero could go price wise, but I heard today that Arab states want to hide money and if they put it into Monero (or any alt) the price would rise incredibly due to the limited supply and liquidity. I do need to get some Monero, because it's the type of thing that would happen, this is crypto after all! I can see Monero over $1000 in the next 1-2 years.

I also see monero is good investment. Monero also another conversen altcoin be side eth and bitcoin.
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
November 17, 2017, 07:05:15 PM
Well Polo fucked me again, tried to go long they charged me the conversion fees and cancelled my order when the market went in my direction.

Code:
2017-11-17 16:12:10 Sell 0.01547032 0.00000193 0.00000002
2017-11-17 16:12:10 Sell 0.01547032 0.00000129 0.00000001
2017-11-17 16:11:08 Sell 0.01547029 0.00000517 0.00000007
2017-11-17 16:11:08 Sell 0.01547029 0.00000129 0.00000001
2017-11-17 16:10:50 Sell 0.01547029 0.00000193 0.00000002
2017-11-17 16:10:46 Sell 0.01547029 0.00000129 0.00000001
2017-11-17 16:10:34 Sell 0.01547028 0.00000129 0.00000001

One of these days they are going to be talking to my attorney generals office.

Whenever volume is high, they charge me all the fees and drop my orders as well.  It says order placed, fees taken, but no order processed, nor on the book.  Having tried using support before, I couldn't be bothered to waste my time on it any more. Eventually I will find a new place to trade.  When I am finished procrastinating...

It only happens when I catch the bottom perfectly. And yes I'd like to find a better place to margin but I have less trust for the other option.
legendary
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Free spirit
November 17, 2017, 05:18:02 PM
In all this mania, Monero starts to look cheap again. Relatively at least. Something has to give.
But I seem to consistently overvalue privacy, compared to my peers at least. Always wonder if it is me being crazy or them.

Currently the market says it is me. I just can't help being extremely bullish on Monero, whether they are $0.50 or $150 a piece.

Why does it have to be 1 or the other? perhaps everyone is crazy.   Grin

Look at the long term monero new coin supply decay. Its a no brainer then.

legendary
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November 17, 2017, 05:12:56 PM
There is reference to an asic earlier in this thread. May be the concept to buy asic with the bounty? If so is not this just a way of the dev paying themself from the premine?I'm inquiring to not fud, just a prior gold coin dev that i committed to do this, I see this as absolutely nothing apart from taking a cut of the premine?

There's no premine in Monero.  Perhaps you're thinking of Dash?

There are (hundreds?) many new accounts popping up, all with capital 'I' replacing 'l' and they are all bots.  Instant ignore for that name.  You'd think the forum would do something about it, but maybe they make money from it.  Maybe they belong to Theymos.
legendary
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November 17, 2017, 05:07:57 PM
Well Polo fucked me again, tried to go long they charged me the conversion fees and cancelled my order when the market went in my direction.

Code:
2017-11-17 16:12:10 Sell 0.01547032 0.00000193 0.00000002
2017-11-17 16:12:10 Sell 0.01547032 0.00000129 0.00000001
2017-11-17 16:11:08 Sell 0.01547029 0.00000517 0.00000007
2017-11-17 16:11:08 Sell 0.01547029 0.00000129 0.00000001
2017-11-17 16:10:50 Sell 0.01547029 0.00000193 0.00000002
2017-11-17 16:10:46 Sell 0.01547029 0.00000129 0.00000001
2017-11-17 16:10:34 Sell 0.01547028 0.00000129 0.00000001

One of these days they are going to be talking to my attorney generals office.

Whenever volume is high, they charge me all the fees and drop my orders as well.  It says order placed, fees taken, but no order processed, nor on the book.  Having tried using support before, I couldn't be bothered to waste my time on it any more. Eventually I will find a new place to trade.  When I am finished procrastinating...
full member
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November 17, 2017, 04:31:48 PM
There is reference to an asic earlier in this thread. May be the concept to buy asic with the bounty? If so is not this just a way of the dev paying themself from the premine?I'm inquiring to not fud, just a prior gold coin dev that i committed to do this, I see this as absolutely nothing apart from taking a cut of the premine?

There's no premine in Monero.  Perhaps you're thinking of Dash?
legendary
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Flippin' burgers since 1163.
November 17, 2017, 04:04:58 PM
In all this mania, Monero starts to look cheap again. Relatively at least. Something has to give.
But I seem to consistently overvalue privacy, compared to my peers at least. Always wonder if it is me being crazy or them.

Currently the market says it is me. I just can't help being extremely bullish on Monero, whether they are $0.50 or $150 a piece.
hero member
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November 17, 2017, 02:46:01 PM
Really hard to tell where Monero could go price wise, but I heard today that Arab states want to hide money and if they put it into Monero (or any alt) the price would rise incredibly due to the limited supply and liquidity. I do need to get some Monero, because it's the type of thing that would happen, this is crypto after all! I can see Monero over $1000 in the next 1-2 years.
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