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legendary
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October 18, 2017, 10:17:15 AM

If there is any "best founder ever" then it's undoubtedly the bitcoin founder. All the kids that popped up after him are just substanceless derivatives.


I've always thought there is a strong possibility the anonymous cryptonote author "Nicholas van Saberhagen" actually IS "Satoshi Nakamoto"

N.S. / S.N. for one thing, as an obvious intentional clue.

Second, Satoshi disappeared right around the time CN started.  And when he left, he said he was leaving to "pursue other things". It's not a huge stretch to consider that a redesign/reboot of his best idea would be what that was.

Very doubtful someone like him would just totally turn his back on what he'd already accomplished. It'd be very natural to want to start with a clean slate and design a "bitcoin 2.0" from the ground-up with no baggage of the 1.0 concept design.

Finally, the #1 and maybe ONLY, biggest obvious FLAW, in bitcoin's design intending to be "money" is that it isn't fully fungible.  Cryptonote (and thus, Monero) builds on the basic bitcoin design ideas to SOLVE that, and make the world's first crypto-currency that IS really "MONEY".

Satoshi never took any credit for cryptonote, of course, so this is all just wild speculation, and for more IF Hal Finney was Satoshi (or part of the team) and was diagnosed with his terminal illness at that time, he certainly would've been "thankful for today" when he started up Bytecoin (XMR precursor) even if maybe he erred a little bit on trying to structure it with the premine (to provide funds for his family after he was gone, maybe... something that Satoshi or the Satoshi Team did not do when they started up the BTC genesis block, of course.  Hal could be forgiven for that lapse in judgement at the time, and under the circumstances... I'd think.  Doesn't detract from his legacy or reputation IMHO at all...)



I have considered this as well.

Where it looks like it breaks down to me is the code.  Does not look like the same person.
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Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk
October 18, 2017, 08:38:57 AM

If there is any "best founder ever" then it's undoubtedly the bitcoin founder. All the kids that popped up after him are just substanceless derivatives.


I've always thought there is a strong possibility the anonymous cryptonote author "Nicholas van Saberhagen" actually IS "Satoshi Nakamoto"

N.S. / S.N. for one thing, as an obvious intentional clue.

Second, Satoshi disappeared right around the time CN started.  And when he left, he said he was leaving to "pursue other things". It's not a huge stretch to consider that a redesign/reboot of his best idea would be what that was.

Very doubtful someone like him would just totally turn his back on what he'd already accomplished. It'd be very natural to want to start with a clean slate and design a "bitcoin 2.0" from the ground-up with no baggage of the 1.0 concept design.

Finally, the #1 and maybe ONLY, biggest obvious FLAW, in bitcoin's design intending to be "money" is that it isn't fully fungible.  Cryptonote (and thus, Monero) builds on the basic bitcoin design ideas to SOLVE that, and make the world's first crypto-currency that IS really "MONEY".

Satoshi never took any credit for cryptonote, of course, so this is all just wild speculation, and for more IF Hal Finney was Satoshi (or part of the team) and was diagnosed with his terminal illness at that time, he certainly would've been "thankful for today" when he started up Bytecoin (XMR precursor) even if maybe he erred a little bit on trying to structure it with the premine (to provide funds for his family after he was gone, maybe... something that Satoshi or the Satoshi Team did not do when they started up the BTC genesis block, of course.  Hal could be forgiven for that lapse in judgement at the time, and under the circumstances... I'd think.  Doesn't detract from his legacy or reputation IMHO at all...)


Make a FFS for a screenplay, we'll get Morgan Freeman to play Satoshi.
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October 18, 2017, 08:31:58 AM

If there is any "best founder ever" then it's undoubtedly the bitcoin founder. All the kids that popped up after him are just substanceless derivatives.


I've always thought there is a strong possibility the anonymous cryptonote author "Nicholas van Saberhagen" actually IS "Satoshi Nakamoto"

N.S. / S.N. for one thing, as an obvious intentional clue.

Second, Satoshi disappeared right around the time CN started.  And when he left, he said he was leaving to "pursue other things". It's not a huge stretch to consider that a redesign/reboot of his best idea would be what that was.

Very doubtful someone like him would just totally turn his back on what he'd already accomplished. It'd be very natural to want to start with a clean slate and design a "bitcoin 2.0" from the ground-up with no baggage of the 1.0 concept design.

Finally, the #1 and maybe ONLY, biggest obvious FLAW, in bitcoin's design intending to be "money" is that it isn't fully fungible.  Cryptonote (and thus, Monero) builds on the basic bitcoin design ideas to SOLVE that, and make the world's first crypto-currency that IS really "MONEY".

Satoshi never took any credit for cryptonote, of course, so this is all just wild speculation, and for more IF Hal Finney was Satoshi (or part of the team) and was diagnosed with his terminal illness at that time, he certainly would've been "thankful for today" when he started up Bytecoin (XMR precursor) even if maybe he erred a little bit on trying to structure it with the premine (to provide funds for his family after he was gone, maybe... something that Satoshi or the Satoshi Team did not do when they started up the BTC genesis block, of course.  Hal could be forgiven for that lapse in judgement at the time, and under the circumstances... I'd think.  Doesn't detract from his legacy or reputation IMHO at all...)

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October 18, 2017, 05:45:20 AM
Bitcoin is quite weak in areas and cryptonote is completely different, not another faceless clone.

Monero was rescued and its fair comment to say has been well developed. Including addressing lots of the original flaws and limiting any scammyness that could have been inherited from the original project.



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I don't buy nor sell anything here and never will.
October 18, 2017, 03:47:19 AM
It will be the most used coin to buy things

That it will never be.

It just have has an amazing team, great name and the best founder ever.

None of which has any relevance nor implication at all, even if it was true.

If there is any "best founder ever" then it's undoubtedly the bitcoin founder. All the kids that popped up after him are just substanceless derivatives.
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October 17, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Climbing again  Grin Wink
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October 17, 2017, 09:55:49 PM
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Slightly OFF topic again, LOL, but what kind of % weight do you guys give to the concept there could be a BCH/BCC vs BTC "flippening" ... AFTER all this Fork Noise subsides, soon, and AFTER we start to see what the two versions (Satoshi Design vs SegWit Design) really can deliver to the market vis-a-vis their *actual* miner fee transaction costs and their *actual* confirmation times...?

...

~5% or less, and that's just based on the price, which I think is being propped up by Ver and maybe some certain miners atm. Honestly think it's more like 1% and price will reflect that when Coinbase unleashes the gates in January.
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October 17, 2017, 09:05:33 PM
Monero will be a top 3 coin. It will be the most used coin to buy things so it will have more liquid than any other coin. It just have an amazing team, great name and the best founder ever. And know it looks like everybody is trying to mine using their website so will just become really famous.
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October 17, 2017, 06:43:09 PM

To get on topic a moment... this price action is interesting to me...

...BCC rallying strongly against BTC

...As to XMR.  I feel like there are some strong developments and rumors out there...


Slightly OFF topic again, LOL, but what kind of % weight do you guys give to the concept there could be a BCH/BCC vs BTC "flippening" ... AFTER all this Fork Noise subsides, soon, and AFTER we start to see what the two versions (Satoshi Design vs SegWit Design) really can deliver to the market vis-a-vis their *actual* miner fee transaction costs and their *actual* confirmation times...?

Personally I think it COULD happen (stranger things already have, in crypto world) and I've already placed MY bets (appropriately?) on IF it's gonna be the way this goes. But I'm still having a hard time kinda actually *quantifying* what the ODDS really are...! It's more of a philosophical or seat of the pants type play so far.

And, sad to say it BUT lately despite all the pending Good News Coming for Monero I think all this Fork Noise and bitcoin distraction stuff is going to continue to overshadow XMR and depress price as has been happening since last Aug 21 mini-moon... but then, as usual, once it's over? Our favorite Little Fungible Crypto Engine That Could will deliver yet another one of those Big Green Candles: I'm afraid that it just might be a tad further out than we-all would prefer  Undecided
legendary
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October 17, 2017, 04:57:20 PM
To get on topic a moment... this price action is interesting to me. 

We have

BTC relatively flat
BCC rallying strongly against BTC
Alts seem to be rallying against BTC
But the crummier alts are doing well while the better projects languish.  (I put XMR in this camp)
... There there's ripple...

As to XMR.  I feel like there are some strong developments and rumors out there... Is this sell the rumor and buy the news?
legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
October 17, 2017, 04:43:46 PM
Hodling since ICO. This is one of my best gainers.
What ICO? This is Monero, not some charade with a fancy website promising to suck your dick if you give them your bitcoins.

He bought Monero in their ICO, in the past.

I think you mean in an alternate timeline.
legendary
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October 17, 2017, 04:37:58 PM
Water damage doesn't sound too bad, have you attempted to recover some data?



 Cheesy

I Lald
If you meant the use the past tense of lol, I think it's lodl.

It was a star trek joke. Right off the cuff too. There has to be someone here who can appreciate. I thought you were my people.

One of the saddest of all the episodes IMHO...
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October 17, 2017, 03:58:53 PM
A green speck on the 1 week  Grin




And...its gone
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October 17, 2017, 03:58:28 PM
Hodling since ICO. This is one of my best gainers.
What ICO? This is Monero, not some charade with a fancy website promising to suck your dick if you give them your bitcoins.

He bought Monero in their ICO, in the past.
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October 17, 2017, 03:57:56 PM
even if monero will go up for sure i still would like a quick pump to 0.05 to close my long and buy a new computer. this one is driving me crazy  Sad
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Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk
October 17, 2017, 03:55:41 PM
Hodling since ICO. This is one of my best gainers.
What ICO? This is Monero, not some charade with a fancy website promising to suck your dick if you give them your bitcoins.
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October 17, 2017, 03:41:02 PM
Hodling since ICO. This is one of my best gainers.
legendary
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Free spirit
October 17, 2017, 03:32:14 PM
Your people are fine we have them on our holodeck.

legendary
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October 17, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Water damage doesn't sound too bad, have you attempted to recover some data?



 Cheesy

I Lald
If you meant the use the past tense of lol, I think it's lodl.

It was a star trek joke. Right off the cuff too. There has to be someone here who can appreciate. I thought you were my people.
legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
October 17, 2017, 02:36:28 PM

So... Moroneros do you still sit in noMore?


Dude... WTF do U think, srsly?

Isn't it abundantly clear (to even an obvious thick-head troll like you) that we-here are mostly all long-term XMR HODLers?

We don't CARE much at all around here about the small daily dip&pops. We wait patiently for those epic beautiful tall tall TALL green candles -- which then tend to set new, solid, higher-up FLOORS -- once or twice a year, as they come.

Go try spreading your day-trader gambler FUD somewhere else LOL  Cheesy 

The only regret I have is that I didn't hodl more Sad
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