[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 619.

25hashcoin

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Quote from: c789 on August 24, 2017, 01:12:06 PM

Here's a comparison of privacy-centric coins: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php

Lmao @ that extremely biased nonsense. Monero users like to twist words and meanings to try and convince people what aspects of privacy are actually important. They will conflate things that would protect users privacy with gimmicks like not having a rich list. The important aspects of privacy fall extremely short for monero. The way the community tries to ignore it is embarrassing.

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:28:35 PM

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf

SHITCOIN

The Monerolink PDF has been answered by https://getmonero.org/2017/04/19/an-unofficial-response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-linkability.html

That Monerolink PDF was written in part by Andrew Miller, who is on the official Zcash team (https://z.cash/team.html). That removes any impartiality which, being an academic, he's supposed to have. And, as seen in the link above, the faults they find with Monero can be easily debunked and/or those faults no longer apply since they've been fixed and have been fixed for some time. So, it's just FUD, but do your own research and see for yourself.

Here's a comparison of privacy-centric coins: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php

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Quote from: sui_generis on August 24, 2017, 01:01:53 PM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:57:28 PM

Man I love monero people. Remind me of Core supporters. Actually, you're the same group of scammers behind it. Push shitty tech with enormous fees and act like it has value.

You seem angry. Show me on the dolly where Maxwell touched you.

Point proven.

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:57:28 PM

Man I love monero people. Remind me of Core supporters. Actually, you're the same group of scammers behind it. Push shitty tech with enormous fees and act like it has value.

You seem angry. Show me on the dolly where Maxwell touched you.

Quote from: aminorex on August 24, 2017, 01:00:03 PM

If you think XMR overpriced, then put all your capital into s horting it.

Agreed. 25hashcoin, instead of wasting your time posting here, just short Monero. Shorts are great for priming massive upwards movement. And we get to laugh once you guys get liquidated.

aminorex

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Sine secretum non libertas

There is very little point in a lengthy refutation of Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

If you think XMR overpriced, then put all your capital into s horting it.

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Quote from: sui_generis on August 24, 2017, 12:55:09 PM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:51:46 PM

Typical. Just ignore issues that making Monero a worthless scamcoin.

Haven't seen you post anything that would support your claim. MoneroLink does not apply to RingCT transactions, so it's just baseless FUD at this point. The Steemit article is written by a mentally unsound individual. The claims made in that paper are equivalent to saying that Bitcoin is junk because it's susceptible to 51% attacks.

Man I love monero people. Remind me of Core supporters. Actually, you're the same group of scammers behind it. Push shitty tech with enormous fees and act like it has value.

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:51:46 PM

Typical. Just ignore issues that making Monero a worthless scamcoin.

Haven't seen you post anything that would support your claim. MoneroLink does not apply to RingCT transactions, so it's just baseless FUD at this point. The Steemit article is written by a mentally unsound individual. The claims made in that paper are equivalent to saying that Bitcoin is junk because it's susceptible to 51% attacks.

Oh, and Bcash/Zcash are more or less garbage. Bcash = Chinese shitcoin. Zcash = honeypot.

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Quote from: Ompan on August 24, 2017, 12:50:05 PM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:28:35 PM

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf

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You are promoting BCH and ZEC... That tells me everything about you, i dont even have to debunk your false sources.

Typical. Just ignore issues that making Monero a worthless scamcoin.

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Quote from: kurious on August 24, 2017, 12:46:56 PM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:28:35 PM

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf

SHITCOIN

I see you're handing out helpful advice all over the place:

Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:14:14 PM

Hell no stay away from LTC and BTC. Invest in BitcoinCash and Zcash.

Heavy bags you're holding?

Just keep ignoring the reason Monero deserves to be worth $0.

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:28:35 PM

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf

SHITCOIN

You are promoting BCH and ZEC... That tells me everything about you, i dont even have to debunk your false sources.

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:28:35 PM

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf

SHITCOIN

I see you're handing out helpful advice all over the place:

Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:14:14 PM

Hell no stay away from LTC and BTC. Invest in BitcoinCash and Zcash.

Heavy bags you're holding?

25hashcoin

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https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf

SHITCOIN

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I am Korean and heavily use Bitthumbs.
Simply put, don't worry. Their tech level is very low, overloaded, and never kept their promises.
This is very usual for them and will open tomorrow.
One secret for you - When Bithumbs starts trading new coin, the price usually jumps to 1.5 higher than usual price at the first day.
They don't know what they are buying. More likely, they buy first then search what they bought.

kind of make sense as well
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6vpxpp/monero_still_not_on_bithumb_for_deposit_should_we/

so ... who knows

let's sit hug and wait

cryptimus prime

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Yes I read it but I am too long in crypto and have seen too much and read too many hype and FUD to believe some gossip style stories.
I am pretty relaxed and bought here XMR on the dip. My thanks to panic bottom sellers.

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An enjoyable 50% retraction.

If we break 0.025 this time then it's an easy double from there.

Time to teach this triangle a lesson.

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Quote from: cryptimus prime on August 24, 2017, 11:46:03 AM

The "I am worried Bithumb has still not added XMR posts." have just been posted by trolls trying to get some cheap coins. Roll Eyes

Not sure what you mean. Did you read this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/xmrtrader/comments/6vrfyw/bithumb_monero_update/

It seems legit to me. Whether people should be "worried" or not, is another matter. But it's surely a topic for conversation.

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The "I am worried Bithumb has still not added XMR posts." have just been posted by trolls trying to get some cheap coins. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Billy Bunter on August 24, 2017, 09:57:27 AM

Quote from: aminorex on August 24, 2017, 07:52:48 AM

Quote from: luz3rrul3z on August 24, 2017, 06:39:48 AM

What would be the assumed price of XMR by the end of the year. I am seriously thinking long-term. Any loose prediction will do...
Thanks in advance.

DNMs volumes should approach 0.1% of the global black markets by the end of 2018, I.e. roughly 25bn$/an. In mid-2013 SR1 was turning over about $1bn/an. Since no major DNM can risk BTC, ZEC, or ETH in the future, the only coin with the liquidity to support DNMs will be XMR. Since pq=mv, and pq and m are known (estimated) factors, that leaves v. If the velocity of XMR is roughly the same as SR1 era BTC, then at the end of 2018 XMR would trade at roughly 2500 $us, averaging over any periods of excess volatility. I prefer to assume that either half of the DNMs are honeypots using BTC or ZEC, or that the velocity of XMR is more than twice the velocity of BTC in the SR1 era, in which case $1000 would be a better estimate.

Rational discounting in a negative real interest rate environment isn't very...relevant; thus, the only discounting factor is risk of model error.

End of 2017 or 2018? Your response is unclear since the OP was referring to 2017.

I was talking about 2018 because I don't think any DNM can build the kind of confidence that AB or SR1 had in 4 months. I could be wrong: DHL seems to have all the confidence required, but they have not shown a willingness to open up the floodgates for a large flow of goods and services - AFAIK it is all invite-only.

To me the model prediction seems inescapable, and the only question is how long it takes for SEC to prosecute a few ETH ICOs in order too drive a lot of speculative capital out of BTC, BCH, ETH into real digital cash.

Either way, the money flows are coming. Since I don't know when, I just stay all-in XMR. We do know this:. When BTC reached thus liquidity level it drew attention from buy-siders. Expect the same for XMR at this level.

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I have little doubt it's true.

This is Monero, right? If there's bad luck to be had, we'll find it.

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we will see in 4days if this was true or not.... but as exchanges are most probably the biggest shitholes of cryptoworld, there is possibility that's true

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