[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 848.

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Quote from: Chin Cheng on February 14, 2017, 10:47:30 AM

Quote from: G8888 on February 14, 2017, 10:41:37 AM

Hi!
I found a company cloudkaline. cc where you can earn coins (XMR)

What kind of company is that. Usually i dont trust any websites ending with cc Tongue

if you want to earn monero you have to either mine it or purchase it other than that no one is going to give away free coins.

...Or you can earn it by giving some sort of service for XMR, like there is someone offering his coding skills on reddit and if you pay him/her with XMR he offers you a decent discount because he seems to appreciate financial privacy.

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Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 14, 2017, 08:58:44 AM

Has xmr bottomed for now? Safe to accumulate? I got into Monero 5 days after I discovered bitcoin but now the price is so high....

Does aeon have any advantages that might make it overtake xmr in the distant future?

Might aeon have iOS wallet before xmr?

some would not agree with you that Bitcoin price is high and expect it close to million $ at some point.

I think AEON advantage is written in its ANN. I doubt much things will happen first in AEON.

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Quote from: G8888 on February 14, 2017, 10:41:37 AM

Hi!
I ~~found~~ founded a company cloudkaline. cc where you can earn coins (XMR)

FTFY

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Quote from: G8888 on February 14, 2017, 10:41:37 AM

Hi!
I found a company cloudkaline. cc where you can earn coins (XMR)

What kind of company is that. Usually i dont trust any websites ending with cc Tongue

if you want to earn monero you have to either mine it or purchase it other than that no one is going to give away free coins.

G8888

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Hi!
I found a company cloudkaline. cc where you can earn coins (XMR)

Monerobuyer

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Has xmr bottomed for now? Safe to accumulate? I got into Monero 5 days after I discovered bitcoin but now the price is so high....

Does aeon have any advantages that might make it overtake xmr in the distant future?

Might aeon have iOS wallet before xmr?

Arvydas77

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I guess that in long term Monero will rise to 50 USD and probably more. I'm happy about great work done by the developers and fluffypony is one of the best on the scene. As Charlie Lee stated in his twitter post, XMR team are doing honest marketing, so they are not expanding as wide as Dash. But Monero has better technology and in long term it should surpass all the other privacy oriented alts.

Febo

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Quote from: doc12 on February 13, 2017, 04:21:22 PM

Any news on the Monero Trezor integration ? now that RingCT is ready.

If I remember right they are upgrading things they already have. something like Trezor v2. And spending their full time for that and when finished, will start adding new coins. Since if they would do before would need to renew it.

I expect Ledger will add Monero before Trezor. But even that will not happen really soon. but who knows.

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Any news on the Monero Trezor integration ? now that RingCT is ready.

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Quote from: Hueristic on February 13, 2017, 02:00:06 PM

Ohh, I didn't mean All of the time I meant alot of the time. My bad, I was playing loose with the verbage.

AFA the Laser Tech it was only competing with tape when released and cdroms didn't come out till much later. they had ample opportunity to own the market but in their case they priced the majority out of the market. IIRC I was making $2.80 an hour and the machine was $800 and one movie was $50 which is just an insane amount for the time. I think they only had 4 movies on launch and Logans Run was the one I wanted.

Yep, and there was virtually no protective coating on the things, so the smallest scratch on the disc pretty much ensured the picture would lock up indefinitely at some point

We're on the same page. You're saying at any given point in time an inferior tech might be favored due to prohibitive cost or other limitations of its rival. I can agree with that.

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Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on February 13, 2017, 01:47:13 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on February 13, 2017, 01:18:54 AM

Laserdisc was first by a long shot and would have been adopted but the cost was through the roof, I remember it clearly. And that was a quick google for more on spot examples feel free I'm know your able to google. I'm not interested in getting into a protracted discussion on semantics.

I'm not disagreeing with your semantics. You said "better tech loses all the time" and cited some poorly marketed products as examples. Sure I can google, but I still can't find any good fodder to back up your statement.

I brought up Laserdisc because I don't think it's an example of better tech 'losing' to inferior tech. Optical disk technology has been winning for decades.

Ohh, I didn't mean All of the time I meant alot of the time. My bad, I was playing loose with the verbage.

AFA the Laser Tech it was only competing with tape when released and cdroms didn't come out till much later. they had ample opportunity to own the market but in their case they priced the majority out of the market. IIRC I was making $2.80 an hour and the machine was $800 and one movie was $50 which is just an insane amount for the time. I think they only had 4 movies on launch and Logans Run was the one I wanted.

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Quote from: Hueristic on February 13, 2017, 01:18:54 AM

Laserdisc was first by a long shot and would have been adopted but the cost was through the roof, I remember it clearly. And that was a quick google for more on spot examples feel free I'm know your able to google. I'm not interested in getting into a protracted discussion on semantics.

I'm not disagreeing with your semantics. You said "better tech loses all the time" and cited some poorly marketed products as examples. Sure I can google, but I still can't find any good fodder to back up your statement.

I brought up Laserdisc because I don't think it's an example of better tech 'losing' to inferior tech. Optical disk technology has been winning for decades.

Edit: I'm honestly not trying to split hairs about this, but the "better tech loses" idea is repeated quite a bit here and is almost always accompanied with examples of products like Sega Saturn or Intellivision, or of technologies that ultimately were adopted, just not in their earliest form.

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Quote from: GingerAle on February 13, 2017, 08:02:43 AM

Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 12, 2017, 04:49:00 PM

5. Isn't monero price high enough that devs make it their full time job? I assume they own and get paid a lot of XMR.

Unless 99% all of the other scam coins, there was no premine, instamine, ninjamine, or any other way for the core team to have amassed an unfair share of Monero during its first couple months of existence. Therefore, the core team does not hold a ridiculous amount of Monero.

When it first hit the exchanges it was around 0.007 BTC.... so it was never "free" to obtain tons of it.

Their efforts are funded by the donations of the community and their own personal finances.

And lets not forget those like WarpTangent who worked for purely altruistic reasons.

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Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 13, 2017, 05:58:00 AM

3 years? But why? :-(

Oh, that's just a running joke around here, similar to the oft-repeating yuk about FluffyPony doing his exit scam scheduled for, when is it now? 2025? Cheesy

The monero community is a small place but we all have to remember that a lot of folks aren't always up to full speed on all the everyday goings-on around here.

These jokes can backfire and give people the wrong idea sometimes LOL

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Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 12, 2017, 04:49:00 PM

5. Isn't monero price high enough that devs make it their full time job? I assume they own and get paid a lot of XMR.

Unlike 99% all of the other scam coins, there was no premine, instamine, ninjamine, or any other way for the core team to have amassed an unfair share of Monero during its first couple months of existence. Therefore, the core team does not hold a ridiculous amount of Monero.

When it first hit the exchanges it was around 0.007 BTC.... so it was never "free" to obtain tons of it.

Their efforts are funded by the donations of the community and their own personal finances.

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Quote from: c789 on February 09, 2017, 11:58:16 AM

Hopefully they'll jump on Monero, but they'd better learn about decentralized exchanges as well.

Will be great if this happens - XMR price has been relatively stable over the last few weeks (great for confidence but not for trading) - would be good if there was a bullish sentiment

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Quote from: Febo on February 12, 2017, 05:02:52 PM

Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 12, 2017, 04:49:00 PM

1.Is Smooth Jeffrey Lebowski?

No smooth is his son.

Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 12, 2017, 04:49:00 PM

2.When will monero get pruning like aeon? Why can't bbr pruning be copied?

To hard question for me, but BBR is not that similar to Monero and AEON as many thinks.

Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 12, 2017, 04:49:00 PM

3. Is active development for aeon ongoing?

You should ask that here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-aeon-2019-09-27-upgrade-to-version-01300-asap-hf1146200-oct-25-641696
But I think AEON could deserve more ongoing development happening.

Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 12, 2017, 04:49:00 PM

4. Monero iOS wallet?

3-5 years

Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 12, 2017, 04:49:00 PM

5. Isn't monero price high enough that devs make it their full time job? I assume they own and get paid a lot of XMR.

There were few projects started here: https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress
Most developers contribute for free. Some did most of time and now got some founding to pay their hours they spend contributing.
Price of Monero dont matter here. It did in few cases, when this much XMR was gathered to pay this much hours and then price escalated and those lucky few got nice hourly wage. Tongue

3 years? But why? :-(

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Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on February 12, 2017, 07:39:13 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on February 12, 2017, 03:35:50 PM

Failures that were ahead of their time. some were just not marketed and some were over priced.

http://listverse.com/2013/01/12/10-innovative-pieces-of-technology-that-failed-miserably/
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2325931,00.asp
http://www.businessinsider.com/startup-failures-2011-5

Underfunded and facing a Monopolistic opponent.

https://fee.org/articles/the-tucker-car-did-the-big-guys-do-it-in/

Just saying the best doesn't always get adopted, it's a shame really but most people lack the drive to research anything and just use whats easy and what everyone else is using.

Most of the example 'failures' you reference are the products themselves, and not their underlying technology. In almost every case, the better tech does win, or is eventually superseded by something even better than that.

For example, the underlying Laserdisc technology did prevail (through CDs and eventually DVDs), though the Laserdisc format did not catch on due to practical limitations that made it inferior to other options at the time. The superior image quality of Laserdisc was largely unrealized on consumer TV displays, coupled with the fact that users were unable to record onto the disk. But this is still an example of the better tech winning, as optical disk formats have since dominated in consumer media storage.

Even the VHS/Betamax example is terrible, because although Betamax lost the consumer videotape format war, it survived successfully as a professional and commercial video format.

Laserdisc was first by a long shot and would have been adopted but the cost was through the roof, I remember it clearly. And that was a quick google for more on spot examples feel free I'm know your able to google. I'm not interested in getting into a protracted discussion on semantics.

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Quote from: Hueristic on February 12, 2017, 03:35:50 PM

Failures that were ahead of their time. some were just not marketed and some were over priced.

http://listverse.com/2013/01/12/10-innovative-pieces-of-technology-that-failed-miserably/
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2325931,00.asp
http://www.businessinsider.com/startup-failures-2011-5

Underfunded and facing a Monopolistic opponent.

https://fee.org/articles/the-tucker-car-did-the-big-guys-do-it-in/

Just saying the best doesn't always get adopted, it's a shame really but most people lack the drive to research anything and just use whats easy and what everyone else is using.

Most of the example 'failures' you reference are the products themselves, and not their underlying technology. In almost every case, the better tech does win, or is eventually superseded by something even better than that.

For example, the underlying Laserdisc technology did prevail (through CDs and eventually DVDs), though the Laserdisc format did not catch on due to practical limitations that made it inferior to other options at the time. The superior image quality of Laserdisc was largely unrealized on consumer TV displays, coupled with the fact that users were unable to record onto the disk. But this is still an example of the better tech winning, as optical disk formats have since dominated in consumer media storage.

Even the VHS/Betamax example is terrible, because although Betamax lost the consumer videotape format war, it survived successfully as a professional and commercial video format.

Febo

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Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 12, 2017, 04:49:00 PM

1.Is Smooth Jeffrey Lebowski?

No smooth is his son.

Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 12, 2017, 04:49:00 PM

2.When will monero get pruning like aeon? Why can't bbr pruning be copied?

To hard question for me, but BBR is not that similar to Monero and AEON as many thinks.

Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 12, 2017, 04:49:00 PM

3. Is active development for aeon ongoing?

You should ask that here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-aeon-2019-09-27-upgrade-to-version-01300-asap-hf1146200-oct-25-641696
But I think AEON could deserve more ongoing development happening.

Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 12, 2017, 04:49:00 PM

4. Monero iOS wallet?

3-5 years

Quote from: Monerobuyer on February 12, 2017, 04:49:00 PM

5. Isn't monero price high enough that devs make it their full time job? I assume they own and get paid a lot of XMR.

There were few projects started here: https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress
Most developers contribute for free. Some did most of time and now got some founding to pay their hours they spend contributing.
Price of Monero dont matter here. It did in few cases, when this much XMR was gathered to pay this much hours and then price escalated and those lucky few got nice hourly wage. Tongue

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