At the current pace of difficulty, block reward will be less than 1 XPM in 25 days. You are looking at a massive spike in valuation when people realize this coin will have a very limited supply.
Like I said, speculation rarely keeps up with minting after the hype in Altcoins, and the fact that I made $40 just running my i7 desktop for 3 days makes me very cautious about the valuation. 
Topic: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency - page 134. (Read 688812 times)
July 10, 2013, 11:37:55 PM
July 10, 2013, 09:51:53 PM
More people need to trade on the exchange. It's moving really slowly.
because in reality its not worth anything (from someone mining it on 3 comps). its just a novelty experiment
I have some LTC that says it is.
bet you understand the price of everything but you fail to understand worth
Worth is subjective.
hey i'll sell you a vowel for 2 ltc or are you more a consonants kinda guy?
Well, if you actually own the rights to it, it might be worth something to someone. All of these cryptocurrencies have value just because we collectively say they do. All they really are is numbers.
July 10, 2013, 11:34:51 PM
Doesn't work, needs libgcc DLL.
Sorry about that, I will recompile with static.
Add '-static' to the end of the LDFLAGS in the makefile.
That doesn't seem to help. I notice the primecoin-qt.exe is only 8MB compared to 22MB for the original. It runs as long as I have the DLLS in the system windows path, but that's annoying to do on multiple machines. Do I need to include the /bin/ dirs somewhere in the makefile? Something is not linking...
Dude, you first have to have static libs to link against.
Isn't that why I include all this stuff....
INCLUDEPATHS= \
-I"$(CURDIR)" \
-I"c:/deps/boost_1_54_0" \
-I"c:/deps/db-4.8.30.NC/build_unix" \
-I"c:/deps/openssl-1.0.1e/include"
LIBPATHS= \
-L"$(CURDIR)/leveldb" \
-L"c:/deps/boost_1_54_0/stage/lib" \
-L"c:/deps/db-4.8.30.NC/build_unix" \
-L"c:/deps/openssl-1.0.1e" \
-L"C:/Qt/4.8.5/lib" \
-L"C:/Qt/4.8.5"
LIBS= \
-l leveldb \
-l memenv \
-l boost_system$(BOOST_SUFFIX) \
-l boost_filesystem$(BOOST_SUFFIX) \
-l boost_program_options$(BOOST_SUFFIX) \
-l boost_thread$(BOOST_SUFFIX) \
-l boost_chrono$(BOOST_SUFFIX) \
-l db_cxx \
-l ssl \
-l crypto
Okay, you probably aren't a coder, so let me explain. There are two types of libraries, static and dynamic. Static libraries are literally included inside the executable file, dynamic libraries are not. Most apps use dynamic libraries these days, because they only have to be loaded into memory once, and then everything that needs it can access it. Because of this, when you build a library like Boost, usually you build dynamic libraries. Dynamic libraries on Windows are DLL files, that's how you can tell.
No, I totally understand all that. What I don't understand is literally where I specify that a specific library should be static vs dynamic. I put the -static flag in the build command (along with a few other variations), but it didn't change anything. I listed the LIBS above because I thought maybe I f'd up a path that would be obvious to someone else... :/
July 10, 2013, 11:31:30 PM
At the current pace of difficulty, block reward will be less than 1 XPM in 25 days. You are looking at a massive spike in valuation when people realize this coin will have a very limited supply.
July 10, 2013, 10:49:44 PM
You have a point. This isn't another shitcoin, but you do have a point.
Bitcoin isn't golden in this respect either, but I'm trading a currency based on faith for a currency based on slightly more faith. I might want to buy something that I can't get with Bitcoins, so I'll then trade those for a currency with based on even more faith, at which point I can walk into a store and buy a bag of Skittles, the best currency, because I don't need faith when I know for a fact that Skittles are delicious.
July 10, 2013, 10:49:05 PM
I just added Primecoin to http://coinmarketcap.com. ~$50k now... should be interesting to watch where it goes from here. 
Which market are your calculations drawing from?Currently http://www.coins-e.com/exchange/XPM_BTC/
July 10, 2013, 10:47:49 PM
I sold 70 primecoins for .25BTC on Coins-e a few hours ago and cleaned out the bid table. Lol I love small markets.
yeah suckers born every minute.
why buy primecoin....hey I'll sell you actual real life prime numbers if you like people?
yeah there be plenty of miners sweating on their block maturing, to get them sold asap while its the current flavor
Do you happen to have a link to this site?
Warning, the site is pretty shitty. No https or SSL, so trade with caution. It was the only site I found with them listed already.
July 10, 2013, 10:45:42 PM
You coders are so cute, but you know nothing about the economics of money--like everyone else.
July 10, 2013, 10:45:39 PM
I sold 70 primecoins for .25BTC on Coins-e a few hours ago and cleaned out the bid table. Lol I love small markets.
yeah suckers born every minute.
why buy primecoin....hey I'll sell you actual real life prime numbers if you like people?
yeah there be plenty of miners sweating on their block maturing, to get them sold asap while its the current flavor
Do you happen to have a link to this site?
July 10, 2013, 09:44:16 PM
More people need to trade on the exchange. It's moving really slowly.
because in reality its not worth anything (from someone mining it on 3 comps). its just a novelty experiment
I have some LTC that says it is.
bet you understand the price of everything but you fail to understand worth
Worth is subjective.
July 10, 2013, 10:45:25 PM
I just added Primecoin to http://coinmarketcap.com. ~$50k now... should be interesting to watch where it goes from here.
Which market are your calculations drawing from? July 10, 2013, 10:43:45 PM
It's a smart idea, but mathematically, Primecoin is on a race to the bottom, so I have to play a little Game Theory.
$40 for just typing setgenerate true 3 days ago is clearly unsustainable, sooo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX0fIi3H-es
$40 for just typing setgenerate true 3 days ago is clearly unsustainable, sooo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX0fIi3H-es
Of course. But think about this: the harder they get to generate, the more they may be worth. So price may go UP, not down.
We have to predict if the money brought into the Primecoin market by speculators can keep pace with or exceed the rate at which they are generated. Looking back on the hundreds of failed Altcoins, the only logical action I can take is to sell when hype is high.
July 10, 2013, 09:41:09 PM
*sigh* mingwm10.dll is now missing.
Heh... what a pain. Might be faster for you guys to install mingw.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/drktk1djfa2nypt/mingwm10.dll
Alternatively, here's a third recompile with only -static, not the -statics I had before.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ph7zpymxfe2h49b/release3.zip
Good news and bad news.
Bad news: Your static build isn't static.
Good news: We have all the DLLs, so it doesn't matter.
I didn't read your name, but somehow I knew it was you, wolf, from the way you sighed.
I recognize you as if we're married. Gosh.
(Note to everyone: We're not.)
I recognize you as if we're married. Gosh.
(Note to everyone: We're not.)
We aren't!?
July 10, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
I just added Primecoin to http://coinmarketcap.com. ~$50k now... should be interesting to watch where it goes from here.
July 10, 2013, 10:25:30 PM
It's a smart idea, but mathematically, Primecoin is on a race to the bottom, so I have to play a little Game Theory.
$40 for just typing setgenerate true 3 days ago is clearly unsustainable, sooo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX0fIi3H-es
$40 for just typing setgenerate true 3 days ago is clearly unsustainable, sooo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX0fIi3H-es
July 10, 2013, 09:31:58 PM
*sigh* mingwm10.dll is now missing.
Heh... what a pain. Might be faster for you guys to install mingw.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/drktk1djfa2nypt/mingwm10.dll
Alternatively, here's a third recompile with only -static, not the -statics I had before.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ph7zpymxfe2h49b/release3.zip
I have MinGW installed, just not the crappy precompiled version, I cross-compiled a MinGW-w64 toolchain.
July 10, 2013, 10:23:53 PM
make sure your current block is incrementing if you're using the client I compiled, one of my local copy wasn't wanting to increment blocks.
Here's a complete zip file with all needed dlls, and it follows current block properly.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6dwcc5p1koj86vz/release5.zip
Here's a complete zip file with all needed dlls, and it follows current block properly.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6dwcc5p1koj86vz/release5.zip
July 10, 2013, 10:23:13 PM
I sold 70 primecoins for .25BTC on Coins-e a few hours ago and cleaned out the bid table. Lol I love small markets.
yeah suckers born every minute.
why buy primecoin....hey I'll sell you actual real life prime numbers if you like people?
yeah there be plenty of miners sweating on their block maturing, to get them sold asap while its the current flavor
Quit selling cheap, you're killing profits. Let the bidders sweat for a little while; it'll cause them to bid higher.
dude theres like 100s of sellers (more when they mature) now and like 5 buyers (who are just those who are yet to score a block)
July 10, 2013, 10:20:19 PM
I sold 70 primecoins for .25BTC on Coins-e a few hours ago and cleaned out the bid table. Lol I love small markets.
yeah suckers born every minute.
why buy primecoin....hey I'll sell you actual real life prime numbers if you like people?
yeah there be plenty of miners sweating on their block maturing, to get them sold asap while its the current flavor
Quit selling cheap, you're killing profits. Let the bidders sweat for a little while; it'll cause them to bid higher.
Yeah the spread on coins-e is pretty shitty. They only bids on there for a few hours were in the .001BTC range, until someone through up a .003 bid. I ate into that right quick.
July 10, 2013, 10:14:12 PM
I sold 70 primecoins for .25BTC on Coins-e a few hours ago and cleaned out the bid table. Lol I love small markets.
yeah suckers born every minute.
why buy primecoin....hey I'll sell you actual real life prime numbers if you like people?
yeah there be plenty of miners sweating on their block maturing, to get them sold asap while its the current flavor
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