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Topic: [XPM] The Unofficial Primecoin Overview Thread (all information in one place!) (Read 37188 times)

hero member
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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
Are there ways to earn this coin without mining, maybe by writing?
What do you mean?

I am also willing to share links and make YouTube videos or anything else.

Anything bloggy that can help the coin.
Ex: Devcoin has a whole wiki site that pays the authors, while at the same time bringing new users to Devcoin.
This coin was launched without any pre-mine, insta-mine and completely fairly.  As a result, there is no stash of coins held by the devs for a bounty.

So was Bitcoin, and I can earn them for chatting.
That is something Tradefortress has funded out of his own pocket largely to promote his eco-system of Inputs.io and Coinlenders.

That's great. Just wondering if you guys had anything of the sort. Devcoin pays for writing and today I learned that so does sex coin.


Fin you are the missing link * Wink  XPM rising again!!! Cool  weeeee


https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xpm
newbie
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Hi,

As many of XPM mining pools listed here are no more running,
for now, you can have a try only with one of the two remaining Primecoin pool:

http://xpmforall.org/
http://pool-prime.net/

Thanks for update.
full member
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Have someone used VPS or dedicated servers for Primecoin mining?
If so, which service exactly did you use and how many chains/d did you get?

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Great list and lots of useful resources in one place but one thing missing is how to set up private pool or am I missing it?
Currently not possible.  Nobody has released open source pool software for XPM, which is why there are only a handful of pools out.  The "work" for XPM can't be divided up in the same way as it can be for scrypt/sha-256 coins, so the share / payment strategies devised by XPM pools is markedly different.  Hence entirely new pool software needed to be written.  Unless you have a very large farm, you wouldn't benefit from a private pool anyway.  And if you did have a very large farm (in the 100's of machines) you would be better off solo mining anyway IMO.



Do you have recommendations on the best settings for each instance of VPS or a rig like how many core, mem, speed of PPS?
hero member
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Great list and lots of useful resources in one place but one thing missing is how to set up private pool or am I missing it?
Currently not possible.  Nobody has released open source pool software for XPM, which is why there are only a handful of pools out.  The "work" for XPM can't be divided up in the same way as it can be for scrypt/sha-256 coins, so the share / payment strategies devised by XPM pools is markedly different.  Hence entirely new pool software needed to be written.  Unless you have a very large farm, you wouldn't benefit from a private pool anyway.  And if you did have a very large farm (in the 100's of machines) you would be better off solo mining anyway IMO.

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Great list and lots of useful resources in one place but one thing missing is how to set up private pool or am I missing it?
hero member
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Actually anything AWS is not best value for your money.

Depends if you're running per hour or not.  I'm yet to see anywhere that can offer per-hour rates anywhere near as cheap as AWS spot prices if you want large numbers of instances.  But if you're looking for something to run for a whole month, then yes there are plenty of cheaper options
hero member
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Hm.... I got 60 Amazon EC2 cc2.8xlarge instances (don't ask, don't tell), i.e. 32x60 =  1920 cores to play with. I ran one 24 hour test with ypool.net, using rdebourbon's v3.3 for x64 Linux. It gave me about 140 XPM.

I since then switched over all instances over to beeeeer.org, using primecoin-hp 0.6 RC1 x64 for Linux. I'm around 8 hours into staring at this now:

Code:
{
 "address": "///myaddress///",
 "payout_current": 0,
 "payout_pps": 0,
 "shares": 0,
 "blocks": 0,
 "shares_per_block": 0
}
> 2013-10-13 17:17:11 reward: 0.07198 fee: 0.00223 details
> 2013-10-13 17:16:51 reward: 0.08372 fee: 0.00259 details
> 2013-10-13 17:16:31 reward: 0.07198 fee: 0.00223 details
> 2013-10-13 17:16:11 reward: 0.06415 fee: 0.00198 details
> 2013-10-13 17:15:51 reward: 0.07589 fee: 0.00235 details
> 2013-10-13 17:15:31 reward: 0.01957 fee: 0.00061 details
> 2013-10-13 17:15:11 reward: 0.03914 fee: 0.00121 details
...

As can be seen, not one single block found (I got around 1/hr at ypool.net), only tiny, tiny shares and not a single payout -- yet. Should I worry?

What's the problem?!

Just wait? Please give me one good reason not to switch everything back to ypool

More to the point, why on earth are you using a pool at all?  With this many instances you will have far better rewards by solo mining (believe me!).  Also, if you have a choice in which instance types you use, the 32 core ones are not the best value for money.  The miner is choked by L1 cache so actually performs no better than using 16 cores (try limiting the miner to 16 threads and you'll see virtually no change in performance).  The best instance type value for money is the c1.xlarge 8 core.  Take that from someone who has spent many thousands of dollars running aws instances XPM mining at up to 500 instances a day!   
hero member
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Why am I getting malware warning when I visit primecoin.org?  Huh

also getting this...
hero member
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is there any chance for fast-GPU-miner in the nearest future?
If you mean a miner that will run at greater than 10x the speed of the current miners, then probably not.
If you mean a miner that will run fast on a GPU, and doesn't need a powerful CPU [as the Bitcoin GPU clients were], then probably not.
If you are willing to pay for both a high-end graphics card and CPU, then a modest improvement may be achievable.
Time-frame? Unknowable.
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is there any chance for fast-GPU-miner in the nearest future?
hero member
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Why am I getting malware warning when I visit primecoin.org?  Huh
sr. member
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Hm.... I got 60 Amazon EC2 cc2.8xlarge instances (don't ask, don't tell), i.e. 32x60 =  1920 cores to play with. I ran one 24 hour test with ypool.net, using rdebourbon's v3.3 for x64 Linux. It gave me about 140 XPM.

I since then switched over all instances over to beeeeer.org, using primecoin-hp 0.6 RC1 x64 for Linux. I'm around 8 hours into staring at this now:

Code:
{
 "address": "///myaddress///",
 "payout_current": 0,
 "payout_pps": 0,
 "shares": 0,
 "blocks": 0,
 "shares_per_block": 0
}
> 2013-10-13 17:17:11 reward: 0.07198 fee: 0.00223 details
> 2013-10-13 17:16:51 reward: 0.08372 fee: 0.00259 details
> 2013-10-13 17:16:31 reward: 0.07198 fee: 0.00223 details
> 2013-10-13 17:16:11 reward: 0.06415 fee: 0.00198 details
> 2013-10-13 17:15:51 reward: 0.07589 fee: 0.00235 details
> 2013-10-13 17:15:31 reward: 0.01957 fee: 0.00061 details
> 2013-10-13 17:15:11 reward: 0.03914 fee: 0.00121 details
...

As can be seen, not one single block found (I got around 1/hr at ypool.net), only tiny, tiny shares and not a single payout -- yet. Should I worry?

What's the problem?!

Just wait? Please give me one good reason not to switch everything back to ypool
full member
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Added primecoin mining wiki and where to buy physical silver primecoins
full member
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Any reviews on beeer.org versus ypool.net?
full member
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Minor updates - let me know if any suggestions!
full member
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full member
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Are there ways to earn this coin without mining, maybe by writing?
What do you mean?

I am also willing to share links and make YouTube videos or anything else.

Anything bloggy that can help the coin.
Ex: Devcoin has a whole wiki site that pays the authors, while at the same time bringing new users to Devcoin.
This coin was launched without any pre-mine, insta-mine and completely fairly.  As a result, there is no stash of coins held by the devs for a bounty.

So was Bitcoin, and I can earn them for chatting.
That is something Tradefortress has funded out of his own pocket largely to promote his eco-system of Inputs.io and Coinlenders.

That's great. Just wondering if you guys had anything of the sort. Devcoin pays for writing and today I learned that so does sex coin.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
Are there ways to earn this coin without mining, maybe by writing?
What do you mean?

I am also willing to share links and make YouTube videos or anything else.

Anything bloggy that can help the coin.
Ex: Devcoin has a whole wiki site that pays the authors, while at the same time bringing new users to Devcoin.
This coin was launched without any pre-mine, insta-mine and completely fairly.  As a result, there is no stash of coins held by the devs for a bounty.

So was Bitcoin, and I can earn them for chatting.
That is something Tradefortress has funded out of his own pocket largely to promote his eco-system of Inputs.io and Coinlenders.
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