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I am just surprised by the amount of hate this coin gets.
Never seen such hate before in crypto (despite my user here doesn't look very active, I have been trading coins for some time now...) and I have never seen the amount of hate and FUD this coin gets. Not even ETH in its begging got so much FUD.

My theory is that some people don't want to see this coin succeed as they believe they are "too late to the party", but the truth is that XVG is just starting. This coin is going to hit 1 USD for sure during 2018.
XVG has serious tech behind it. It is the only coin that offers the option to switch between an open ledger and a totally closed one with the wraith protocol - no other coin out there can do this at the moment - this is a serious move forward for the crypto tech, that not all people seem to yet understand

On the other hand you have people hating on the developers because they missed the deadline of the Wraith protocol...... FFS even big tech giants miss deadlines nowadays!. Developing software is something complicated that takes time and lot of effort, specially when you are developing something so complex like a stealth protocol on a blockchain. I am a developer myself and I can only image the amount of hours the devs of XVG put to pull this off, and then you have 15 year old kids calling the coin a scam on twitter because the developers missed the deadline for a day?

if you are reading this and you are new to crypto, please don't listen to stupid influencers on twitter or listen to what a group chat on telegram has to say. Just do your own research and you will come up with the right answers eventually.
Anon coins are the future of crypto and XVG is by far among the best ones.

Peace out



I agree. This is a complex process that takes time !!! let it be better to delay, but the main thing is safety!
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i have place a big order at 900 sat, i'm sure it can go there before go up again(i hope).
You havant got many chances bro 903 is your best option,  but i dont think its gonna be less then 930 anyway.There is the trend line. Its uptrend now for sure!
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one of the reasons price is holding is because large holders like myself will not sell you any of our xx millions @ $0.13. Not a f&*king chance.

Let's talk around .50 and then again @ $1.


current price is awesome as new investors can enter market here and get a quick boost in portfolio value.

@Dev
Is there a Raspberry Pi image available for wraith?

CryptoJohn, you are a fresh breeze in this thread, since you actually sound like you know what you are talking about (instead of screaming moon or doom). I sold my stash at 1200 stats and am contemplating buying back some at current prices. I have a couple of questions tho.

1. There's been lots of talk about Wraiths switching functionality, but that aside, are Wraiths anonymous mode transactions somehow superior or more anonymous than that of ring signature or tor-based coins? If Wraith didn't have the two ledger switching system, would it still be superior?


2. When making my buy/hodl decisions I always keep an eye on the rich list. Most of the verge rich list accounts have not been selling on last few weeks, which is of course good, but... Now that anonymous transactions are available, would sending coins anonymously from those accounts actually reflect on the public blockchain. I.e, if an address receives 1,000,000 xvg publicly and sends 1,000,000 xvg out on stealth mode, will https://verge-blockchain.info/ display balance of 1,000,000 xvg or 0 xvg?


Thanks if you decide to answer.

1. There's been lots of talk about Wraiths switching functionality, but that aside, are Wraiths anonymous mode transactions somehow superior or more anonymous than that of ring signature or tor-based coins? If Wraith didn't have the two ledger switching system, would it still be superior?
It's hard to reevaluate somethings worth when you remove it's main attribute. Without Wraith I would say xvg is still as good or better than other anon coins. Don't even get me started on smoke and mirror projects like monero

2. When making my buy/hodl decisions I always keep an eye on the rich list. Most of the verge rich list accounts have not been selling on last few weeks, which is of course good, but... Now that anonymous transactions are available, would sending coins anonymously from those accounts actually reflect on the public blockchain. I.e, if an address receives 1,000,000 xvg publicly and sends 1,000,000 xvg out on stealth mode, will https://verge-blockchain.info/ display balance of 1,000,000 xvg or 0 xvg?
Wow great question. I don't know the answer but would assume wallets balances show and transactions are obfuscated.

@Dev Can we get clarification on question #2 please?
I also want to clarify this regarding public blockchain. Also, as privacy coin, this should not be available the transactions from point A, to point B and C, per sample, I receive x xvg, then I transfer to address x to exchange, then to another point. I think this should be hidden as well and shows only the original transaction - without the total amount sent. If devs do that, this coin will skyrocket.
legendary
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Well, That's Crypto :-\
one of the reasons price is holding is because large holders like myself will not sell you any of our xx millions @ $0.13. Not a f&*king chance.

Let's talk around .50 and then again @ $1.


current price is awesome as new investors can enter market here and get a quick boost in portfolio value.

@Dev
Is there a Raspberry Pi image available for wraith?

CryptoJohn, you are a fresh breeze in this thread, since you actually sound like you know what you are talking about (instead of screaming moon or doom). I sold my stash at 1200 stats and am contemplating buying back some at current prices. I have a couple of questions tho.

1. There's been lots of talk about Wraiths switching functionality, but that aside, are Wraiths anonymous mode transactions somehow superior or more anonymous than that of ring signature or tor-based coins? If Wraith didn't have the two ledger switching system, would it still be superior?


2. When making my buy/hodl decisions I always keep an eye on the rich list. Most of the verge rich list accounts have not been selling on last few weeks, which is of course good, but... Now that anonymous transactions are available, would sending coins anonymously from those accounts actually reflect on the public blockchain. I.e, if an address receives 1,000,000 xvg publicly and sends 1,000,000 xvg out on stealth mode, will https://verge-blockchain.info/ display balance of 1,000,000 xvg or 0 xvg?


Thanks if you decide to answer.

1. There's been lots of talk about Wraiths switching functionality, but that aside, are Wraiths anonymous mode transactions somehow superior or more anonymous than that of ring signature or tor-based coins? If Wraith didn't have the two ledger switching system, would it still be superior?
It's hard to reevaluate somethings worth when you remove it's main attribute. Without Wraith I would say xvg is still as good or better than other anon coins. Don't even get me started on smoke and mirror projects like monero

2. When making my buy/hodl decisions I always keep an eye on the rich list. Most of the verge rich list accounts have not been selling on last few weeks, which is of course good, but... Now that anonymous transactions are available, would sending coins anonymously from those accounts actually reflect on the public blockchain. I.e, if an address receives 1,000,000 xvg publicly and sends 1,000,000 xvg out on stealth mode, will https://verge-blockchain.info/ display balance of 1,000,000 xvg or 0 xvg?
Wow great question. I don't know the answer but would assume wallets balances show and transactions are obfuscated.

@Dev Can we get clarification on question #2 please?
legendary
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Well, That's Crypto :-\
verge will never be 1 dollar ... look at their total coin and circulation supply ... now do u see that 1 dollar is coming ? verge is not like ripple and never will be like ripple ... ripple will gain more and it will be added in coinbase for sure ... so get out from verge asap ... never invest in a coin that has no future at all ... thanks

you're a scummy little shill with 35 posts about nothing.

Ripple is garbage and after I drop my ripple bomb(an email from ripple network support from 2016 showing no partnership between ripple network and the coin) hopefully we put that piece of garbage to bed and all you XRP shills lose your ass. This email is so good I am thinking of having my attorney contact Ripple Network to discuss remediation based upon false information issued. Oooo, juicy.

quote from a dipshit noob "wait, Ripple Network and xrp are 2 different entities?"
newbie
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I am just surprised by the amount of hate this coin gets.
Never seen such hate before in crypto (despite my user here doesn't look very active, I have been trading coins for some time now...) and I have never seen the amount of hate and FUD this coin gets. Not even ETH in its begging got so much FUD.

My theory is that some people don't want to see this coin succeed as they believe they are "too late to the party", but the truth is that XVG is just starting. This coin is going to hit 1 USD for sure during 2018.
XVG has serious tech behind it. It is the only coin that offers the option to switch between an open ledger and a totally closed one with the wraith protocol - no other coin out there can do this at the moment - this is a serious move forward for the crypto tech, that not all people seem to yet understand

On the other hand you have people hating on the developers because they missed the deadline of the Wraith protocol...... FFS even big tech giants miss deadlines nowadays!. Developing software is something complicated that takes time and lot of effort, specially when you are developing something so complex like a stealth protocol on a blockchain. I am a developer myself and I can only image the amount of hours the devs of XVG put to pull this off, and then you have 15 year old kids calling the coin a scam on twitter because the developers missed the deadline for a day?

if you are reading this and you are new to crypto, please don't listen to stupid influencers on twitter or listen to what a group chat on telegram has to say. Just do your own research and you will come up with the right answers eventually.
Anon coins are the future of crypto and XVG is by far among the best ones.

Peace out



Agree. Even Lisk missed the deadline and is above 20$ now. The Lisk release is more far away,  will be on september this year.
I think this hate for verge is that people want it be at 0.03 to can buy big amounts as they missed the train.
newbie
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I am just surprised by the amount of hate this coin gets.
Never seen such hate before in crypto (despite my user here doesn't look very active, I have been trading coins for some time now...) and I have never seen the amount of hate and FUD this coin gets. Not even ETH in its begging got so much FUD.

My theory is that some people don't want to see this coin succeed as they believe they are "too late to the party", but the truth is that XVG is just starting. This coin is going to hit 1 USD for sure during 2018.
XVG has serious tech behind it. It is the only coin that offers the option to switch between an open ledger and a totally closed one with the wraith protocol - no other coin out there can do this at the moment - this is a serious move forward for the crypto tech, that not all people seem to yet understand

On the other hand you have people hating on the developers because they missed the deadline of the Wraith protocol...... FFS even big tech giants miss deadlines nowadays!. Developing software is something complicated that takes time and lot of effort, specially when you are developing something so complex like a stealth protocol on a blockchain. I am a developer myself and I can only image the amount of hours the devs of XVG put to pull this off, and then you have 15 year old kids calling the coin a scam on twitter because the developers missed the deadline for a day?

if you are reading this and you are new to crypto, please don't listen to stupid influencers on twitter or listen to what a group chat on telegram has to say. Just do your own research and you will come up with the right answers eventually.
Anon coins are the future of crypto and XVG is by far among the best ones.

Peace out

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Does anyone have a List of servers for the clearnet electrum wallet available? I can‘t get a connection.

e1.verge-electrum.com (ssl Port 50003, not 50002)
e2.verge-electrum.com (ssl Port 50003, not 50002)
Thanks!!! Smiley
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  Grin  Grin

Verge new website - sneak preview - source

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you're right Smiley big for number not value i guess depend of people
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i find this funny all the time...

what do you consider a big order?

 to EACH person, a big order means something else.

   one person  10 is a big order....

100, 1000   10k    100k ? or 1million?  (thats a big order)

i just bought some at 950...  not going to say if it was big or not. lol.
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i have place a big order at 900 sat, i'm sure it can go there before go up again(i hope).
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I hope the XVG rally is over, I want to see it at the bottom and buy, or I did not have time to ride on such a rocket  Sad

rally? it's 10 days it's stucked around 950-1000 SAT... you had plenty of time to join this train.. and still have time.

Yeah too many people see future in the coin to let it drop any further i guess, i don't think you could count on it dropping further. But you never know.If it does, we'll be able to buy more lol

Man I haven't seen a thread with this much salt in it for some time.
Many people bashing each other. I mean... It is a forum... but still...

Im bullish on this, but for the short term I dont really get it outside the privacy spectrum. I guess it is tax time...
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I hope the XVG rally is over, I want to see it at the bottom and buy, or I did not have time to ride on such a rocket  Sad

rally? it's 10 days it's stucked around 950-1000 SAT... you had plenty of time to join this train.. and still have time.

Yeah too many people see future in the coin to let it drop any further i guess, i don't think you could count on it dropping further. But you never know.If it does, we'll be able to buy more lol
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Nice job dev
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I hope the XVG rally is over, I want to see it at the bottom and buy, or I did not have time to ride on such a rocket  Sad

rally? it's 10 days it's stucked around 950-1000 SAT... you had plenty of time to join this train.. and still have time.
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MOBU
I hope the XVG rally is over, I want to see it at the bottom and buy, or I did not have time to ride on such a rocket  Sad
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Yes, buy and hold for a few years Smiley and a doubt, the exchange Novaexchange can only buy? It seems that XVG deposit is disabled?

Do you know all deposits on Novaexchange was disabled ? All coin will be hold lolz ?
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