I think and hope that this mindgeek deal or cooperation with verge is the first step. There is also a cooperation deal with tokenpay ( look at tokenpay website, they seem very enthusiastic ).
if the team gets more deals it will make verge a unique coin in the crypto space and a next step in the evolution of blockchain and its future.
Obviously there are many issues which have to be sorted out to get crypto currencies mainstream. The biggest is the ease of use...which already is being adressed by the partnership/ cooperation of tokenpay/ verge.
Overall these steps are huge, unfortunately for us as investors we can not count on a huge appreciation of the worth of our coins yet. Maybe in some time, but for now i'm very surprised that it had no long term effect on the price. I expected the price to go a bit higher and drop and rise again. It did but less than i expected.
hopefully the dev team is working on their next step and that they dont start announcing them a month before. Just announce it a week before without making a hype about it. The big expectations have the result of dissapointment. If there was no hype nobody would be discussing if mindgeek deal is a big deal or not. It is a very very big deal, unless you expected that amazon or ebay would implement xvg. Those companies will be the last to do so. They know if they even endorse a coin that coin will go to the moon, so tell me why would they do that, in the situation crypto is in now??!! They have the best coders etc they could make a coin for themselves and make a few billion by doing so
Topic: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][TOR/i2P][no premine/ico!] - page 76. (Read 843765 times)
Learning about Verge more than a year ago It is nice to see It is slowly entering the top coins
This one will probably be in the Top 10 by the end of this year, I think It is quiet possible.
I think once the market truly recover Verge will have a lot of hype with John Mcafee statements
and other things like people getting in privacy.
I would say this one is a 'safe investment'
This one will probably be in the Top 10 by the end of this year, I think It is quiet possible.
I think once the market truly recover Verge will have a lot of hype with John Mcafee statements
and other things like people getting in privacy.
I would say this one is a 'safe investment'
Why can't I display the balance in my wallet after I import the private key?
My most unsuccessful investment of this month. But nevertheless announced partnerships are one of the most powerful marketing moves of the century 
Mass adoption and price boom are coming
Mass adoption and price boom are coming Your most unsuccessful investment of this month? Would you mind sharing what your best performers from your portfolio were if XVG was the worst?
Porn is bad for children's mental health, it creates biased - not to say false understandings and misleading stereotypes in society.
I find it funny, that Verge basically expect's that their investors are wankers.. One way of looking at it anyway
You certainly were never involved with the porn industry. I was an Investor in this field 20 years ago. I was surprised to see the amount of disciplined, intelligent, hardworking people in this industry. Persons not like this are out in one day...
There are interesting similarities between porn and crypto: for example the appetite for "easy and fast" money... and many more.
I can't understand why anyone would say it is a bad move. Any kind of adoption can only benefit the space as a whole regardless of the specific use case.
Because nobody yet knows really if its a bad or good move in the long turn, here some arguments for good/bad move that immediatly come into my mind:
- the adoption will mostly benefit the whole crypto world, i think there is not much doubt about it, every use case is good.
- one problem that often has mentioned is the paid 50-65M XVG for the "partnership", this is a huge amount. Someone can argue if that way its a partnerhip
or just paid intregration, sponsorship, clientship, or something mixed.
- while mindgeek is a huge enterpise with profits, this does not automaticly mean every partner will make millions of profits to.
- Someone has to see if this "partnership" goes for longer, finds indeed adoption or its more like a test. In case, for whatever reason, mindgeek discontinues
XVG as a initial payment method than the deal will turn out a total flop. Having Verge only on 3 sites makes it a bit looking like a test. I guess this is one of
the signals to be a bit cautious at the moment.
- So far recurring/renew option is not available. Without having this the deal is not as good as it could be .... i guess there is no doubt here. There is so far
no garantee from the interview of mindgeek that this will come indeed in the near future if it comes ....
- Will it be further implented into the mindgeek pages? More sites? Webcam Model payments? other purchases? We do not know. These are things you might
associate with the partnership, but until its not in place and working for longer, it's nothing to count on. I have my doubts for Webcam Models in generally and
do not think it will happen, if ever, the next years. But who knows?!
- We have yet no digits on how many memberships are made with XVG, and when we know, we have first to see how this will profit Verge at all. Is it only the
transaction fees Verge profits? Other? Nothing than exposure on these high visited porn pages? We do again not know yet.
- When i investigated pornhub about 12 hours bevor the deal was released i saw on the pornhub forum a poll or questioneri/thread people asking for Crypto/Verge
as a payment. If i remember right it have been about 5000 people over the months requesting it on the forum. With millions of daily users this digit is not really high.
However, does not mean anything of course, just remembered it that there is a chance XVG does not get that adopted as a payment as we all think it will be.
- There is still a problem of getting XVG. It seems we to easy forget how difficult it is from time to time to get Crypto because we are all familar with exchanges, mining,
and and and. The average Joe will have its problems eventually. However, this on the other hand leaves a lot of room for improvements of course and mostly any other
deal would have faced the same problem.
- There is indeed a real chance that XVG will be (called) a porncoin. You can not compare Mastercard/Visa/Dollar to it, its not the same. With the examples the use case
for porn is about 0.01% maybe at most for all of them, while with XVG it is 100%. Neither mastercard/Visa nor the Dollar made its first steps with porn. Even not talking
that each of these three have some kind of monopol which automaticly makes them totally different and does not leave any place to compare them to XVG and the porn
deal.
- Investors, holders of XVG want at least a mid - long time price raise to have a profit out of their investement, just normally. Even more with so much money paid for
that deal. Now we have the problem that everybody expects something different as the target price. One might hope for 100 USD/XVG, the next one USD 1 and the 3rd
one is ok with 0.05 USD as this is a price raise as well. In case of further downfall of XVG many will continue to say its a bad deal as the result in price does not comply
with the price on the exchanges. If the price goes up or stays at least at 0.05 - 0.10 than we have a situation where someone can/should be ok with the result and the
deal. If it goes over 0.10 longtime naturally (without whales, december boom, etc.) than this deal has brought indeed real value to XVG. We do not know yet where the
price will settle, still too many questionmarks for a lot of things.
- The hype bevor the announcement by verge and the community itself was not good in my opinion. Many, many people got too high expectations due it, and are now
disapointed because its not amazon, ebay, paypal, german bank, whatever that made XVG going up USD 1 and to the moon. Of course its to everybodies own discretion
on what to await form the mystery deal, but that hype for sure has made a lot of people disapointed. Another approach, with a direct announcement, would have been
better for the price itself (going up and not down) as well as avoiding disappointed people. But thats just my opinion.
- Will Verge be the only Currency on mindgeek sites or do they still consider adding other coins as well? With other coins added the exclusivety is gone, while it might
be again good for the crypto community.
- The good thing is just that there is a deal, and of course in no way the worst. The deal has some potential but only time will show how good the deal was/is/will be.
This said, i personally in no way agree with the people that say its a really bad deal, but i do as well not agree that just because its mindgeek makes it a perfect deal,
because its all up what when how will be delivered from now and if its longterm with real improvements.
Just 2 satoshis on the bad/good deal discussion
I for myself tend to see it as a good deal.
They surely made sort of a serious analysis before choosing XVG. Why didnt they choose an other privacy coin (like zcash, BitcoinZ, etc. etc..)?
As everything in crypto is uncertain to some degree, I think this deal is on the less uncertain side of the spectrum.
I can't understand why anyone would say it is a bad move. Any kind of adoption can only benefit the space as a whole regardless of the specific use case.
Because nobody yet knows really if its a bad or good move in the long turn, here some arguments for good/bad move that immediatly come into my mind:
- the adoption will mostly benefit the whole crypto world, i think there is not much doubt about it, every use case is good.
- one problem that often has mentioned is the paid 50-65M XVG for the "partnership", this is a huge amount. Someone can argue if that way its a partnerhip
or just paid intregration, sponsorship, clientship, or something mixed.
- while mindgeek is a huge enterpise with profits, this does not automaticly mean every partner will make millions of profits to.
- Someone has to see if this "partnership" goes for longer, finds indeed adoption or its more like a test. In case, for whatever reason, mindgeek discontinues
XVG as a initial payment method than the deal will turn out a total flop. Having Verge only on 3 sites makes it a bit looking like a test. I guess this is one of
the signals to be a bit cautious at the moment.
- So far recurring/renew option is not available. Without having this the deal is not as good as it could be .... i guess there is no doubt here. There is so far
no garantee from the interview of mindgeek that this will come indeed in the near future if it comes ....
- Will it be further implented into the mindgeek pages? More sites? Webcam Model payments? other purchases? We do not know. These are things you might
associate with the partnership, but until its not in place and working for longer, it's nothing to count on. I have my doubts for Webcam Models in generally and
do not think it will happen, if ever, the next years. But who knows?!
- We have yet no digits on how many memberships are made with XVG, and when we know, we have first to see how this will profit Verge at all. Is it only the
transaction fees Verge profits? Other? Nothing than exposure on these high visited porn pages? We do again not know yet.
- When i investigated pornhub about 12 hours bevor the deal was released i saw on the pornhub forum a poll or questioneri/thread people asking for Crypto/Verge
as a payment. If i remember right it have been about 5000 people over the months requesting it on the forum. With millions of daily users this digit is not really high.
However, does not mean anything of course, just remembered it that there is a chance XVG does not get that adopted as a payment as we all think it will be.
- There is still a problem of getting XVG. It seems we to easy forget how difficult it is from time to time to get Crypto because we are all familar with exchanges, mining,
and and and. The average Joe will have its problems eventually. However, this on the other hand leaves a lot of room for improvements of course and mostly any other
deal would have faced the same problem.
- There is indeed a real chance that XVG will be (called) a porncoin. You can not compare Mastercard/Visa/Dollar to it, its not the same. With the examples the use case
for porn is about 0.01% maybe at most for all of them, while with XVG it is 100%. Neither mastercard/Visa nor the Dollar made its first steps with porn. Even not talking
that each of these three have some kind of monopol which automaticly makes them totally different and does not leave any place to compare them to XVG and the porn
deal.
- Investors, holders of XVG want at least a mid - long time price raise to have a profit out of their investement, just normally. Even more with so much money paid for
that deal. Now we have the problem that everybody expects something different as the target price. One might hope for 100 USD/XVG, the next one USD 1 and the 3rd
one is ok with 0.05 USD as this is a price raise as well. In case of further downfall of XVG many will continue to say its a bad deal as the result in price does not comply
with the price on the exchanges. If the price goes up or stays at least at 0.05 - 0.10 than we have a situation where someone can/should be ok with the result and the
deal. If it goes over 0.10 longtime naturally (without whales, december boom, etc.) than this deal has brought indeed real value to XVG. We do not know yet where the
price will settle, still too many questionmarks for a lot of things.
- The hype bevor the announcement by verge and the community itself was not good in my opinion. Many, many people got too high expectations due it, and are now
disapointed because its not amazon, ebay, paypal, german bank, whatever that made XVG going up USD 1 and to the moon. Of course its to everybodies own discretion
on what to await form the mystery deal, but that hype for sure has made a lot of people disapointed. Another approach, with a direct announcement, would have been
better for the price itself (going up and not down) as well as avoiding disappointed people. But thats just my opinion.
- Will Verge be the only Currency on mindgeek sites or do they still consider adding other coins as well? With other coins added the exclusivety is gone, while it might
be again good for the crypto community.
- The good thing is just that there is a deal, and of course in no way the worst. The deal has some potential but only time will show how good the deal was/is/will be.
This said, i personally in no way agree with the people that say its a really bad deal, but i do as well not agree that just because its mindgeek makes it a perfect deal,
because its all up what when how will be delivered from now and if its longterm with real improvements.
Just 2 satoshis on the bad/good deal discussion
Mindgeek is a wonderful announcement meant for real investors/speculators. Just a bad it could not be launched properly...
My most unsuccessful investment of this month. But nevertheless announced partnerships are one of the most powerful marketing moves of the century Mass adoption and price boom are coming
Mass adoption and price boom are coming Any link available for download whole blockchain at once?
https://verge-blockchain.com/howtoFind by looking on https://vergecurrency.com/ all by yourself. (you should never trust links) Mine are posted direct, but someone else might not. (and hell if i was a creep(Some scumbag) wouldnt i say the same thing?)
i hate onions. (tho green peppers are worse)
USD is used every day to buy porn.
USD is used every day to buy porn.
+1
Point made. Tersely.
WTG
Any link available for download whole blockchain at once?
People need to obtain over the simple fact that it's porno. Pornhub will probably be worth $3. 6 billion and contains an absolutely enormous user base.
if only that would become the truth lloll
Ripple did it for a while ( 3+$) and nobody expected that to happen, remember? So why not verge.
Porn is bad for children's mental health, it creates biased - not to say false understandings and misleading stereotypes in society.
I find it funny, that Verge basically expect's that their investors are wankers.. One way of looking at it anyway
News is bad for a childs mental health, there is nothing more natural than fucking.
watching young men go 1000's of miles away to bomb some bastards who couldn't even point your country on a map is really bad for them.
We buy our kids guns, let themplay with guns.
we teach them about hell etc etc
In this context...fucking is the most innocent thing kids could watch lol
This is not a political statement in the sense of right wing or left wing, it seems just common sense
killing= bad
fucking= good
This is a old article about MindGeek, anyway it will give you all a perspective how big MindGeek is.
http://www.cracked.com/article_23394_6-people-youve-never-heard-who-secretly-rule-world.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_23394_6-people-youve-never-heard-who-secretly-rule-world.html
It's a good read.Anyone who thinks Pornhub was a bad move and partnership with Mindgeek should read this article and think again!!Just give it some time, there was never a better time to be part of VergeFam
I can't understand why anyone would say it is a bad move. Any kind of adoption can only benefit the space as a whole regardless of the specific use case.
This is a old article about MindGeek, anyway it will give you all a perspective how big MindGeek is.
http://www.cracked.com/article_23394_6-people-youve-never-heard-who-secretly-rule-world.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_23394_6-people-youve-never-heard-who-secretly-rule-world.html
It's a good read.Anyone who thinks Pornhub was a bad move and partnership with Mindgeek should read this article and think again!!Just give it some time, there was never a better time to be part of VergeFam
Sorry, the article may be informative but there really only the claim that there was no moon landing! Full of the conspiracy !! 👍
This is a old article about MindGeek, anyway it will give you all a perspective how big MindGeek is.
http://www.cracked.com/article_23394_6-people-youve-never-heard-who-secretly-rule-world.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_23394_6-people-youve-never-heard-who-secretly-rule-world.html
It's a good read.Anyone who thinks Pornhub was a bad move and partnership with Mindgeek should read this article and think again!!Just give it some time, there was never a better time to be part of VergeFam
People need to obtain over the simple fact that it's porno. Pornhub will probably be worth $3. 6 billion and contains an absolutely enormous user base.
if only that would become the truth lloll
Ripple did it for a while ( 3+$) and nobody expected that to happen, remember? So why not verge.
Porn, gaming maybe even health ( online ) or more.....10$ lloll
Crypto coins are worthless if you try to pay for something with them directly, verge is usefull now.
Ok it is porn and i'm one of the guys who doesn't buy porn, but a lot of people do.
Let the team even contact individual porn "stars"with their own site to integrate verge as a payment? A lot of people are fan of some porn celebs, with a personal site, with monthly fees of 20-30$ or whatever. Those will get verge extra exposure amongst their fans.
I would rather pay with verge then buying with creditcard. This is actually the primary reason behind the existence of crypto currency....bypassing banks, credit cards and yes anonimity.
15 year olds if they're are old enough to watch the news about massacres, they should be allowed to watch people fucking, just like mommy and daddy dit to have them
Porn is bad for children's mental health, it creates biased - not to say false understandings and misleading stereotypes in society.
I find it funny, that Verge basically expect's that their investors are wankers.. One way of looking at it anyway
I still dont understand this bullshit. Do you also think that the investors of Mastercard or Visa are Wankers? Why do you haters dont want to understand, that Verge has NOTHING to do with porn. It is a payment system. That is what it was designed for. And that is what it is used for now...
What is your favorite Altcoin? Was it designed to be a payment system too? If yes, what can you buy with it right now? I am quite sure nothing...
Well verge did just announce a partnership with pornhub, so therefore verge has something to do with porn.
My favorite altcoin is listed in my signature, for now I can buy deeponion merchandise with onions and a few other developments are in place, but as time goes by more and more community members will start accepting onions for the services or goods that they have available. Which looks more like a decent and organic growth, compared to Verge's over hyped "biggest announcement in crypto".
Congrats to all the investors indeed, feel free to buy some porn.
I still dont see why it has to do something with porn. Again, i use it to pay something. Thats it. If it is porn or not, doesnt matter at all, as the payment method has nothing to do with the thing i pay for. There will be more things you can pay for with Verge in future. Another big rumor, that you will be able to use it for ingame payments is already there. As far as i can see, you can pay nothing with your onions so far, but onions merchandises. Thats not quite much i would say. By the way, i dont want to say, that onions are bad or something like that, i dont know enough about the project to say something about it. But, If a really big company would come to the developers of your coin tomorrow and they would say them, „hey, we want to accept onions as payment system in our websites. We have several websites and make earnings of several billion dollars a year.“ you really want to tell me, that your developers would say, sorry, we are not interested... If they would do that, sorry, but then they are fools...
Even when it really was the biggest deal in crypto so far, it was definitely wrong, how the verge team did the announcement. But in the end even there, it was only some unrealistic dreamers, that told names like Amazon or Paypal. In my opinion it was totally clear, that these companys are not the partners. But as mentioned, the fact that the verge team let grow these rumors, was definitely not the right way. Nevertheless, the deal they announced was the biggest in crypto ever. And i think, that, for now, verge is the cryptocurrency with the most potential users for a real use case, even more than bitcoin.
I remeber a year or two ago, when you asked a random person on the street what bitcoin is, that a lot of these people answered, thats the thing they use in darknet to pay weapons and drugs with and to pay for terrorism. Was that true? Maybe. Did that mean, that Bitcoin has something to do with weapons, drugs and terrorism? Definitely no! And now the crypto community itself makes the same fault as people that dont know anything about cryptocurrencies at all. It is kind of ironic, don't you think?
By the way, it is the same thing with darknet itself. A lot of people think it is a place where only criminals are selling drugs and weapons. I think you know better...
This is a old article about MindGeek, anyway it will give you all a perspective how big MindGeek is.
http://www.cracked.com/article_23394_6-people-youve-never-heard-who-secretly-rule-world.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_23394_6-people-youve-never-heard-who-secretly-rule-world.html
i hate onions. (tho green peppers are worse)
USD is used every day to buy porn.
USD is used every day to buy porn.
+1
I see what you did there!
I don't understand why XVG is vilified - some of the comments for instance "XVG is porn" can be applied to almost EVERY form of payment, whether it is fiat, barter etc etc. If a payment method can satisfy a deal so be it. Oh well, you'll always have the random voice pin-holing specific use case because they fail to see the big picture. In this case Crypto (and XVG) is a valid payment method and you can't stop it!
PS, USD is used every day to buy porn and more - hell, it's even used every day in crimes, yet it's still considered a valid payment method in many parts of the world!
i hate onions. (tho green peppers are worse)
USD is used every day to buy porn.
USD is used every day to buy porn.
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