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vip
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February 28, 2013, 10:19:48 PM
#44
Do you have any analysis as to why this trend is unsustainable? It perplexes me why there are those on the forum who are only willing to accept slight success for bitcoin. What if a small country adopts bitcoin as their national currency? What if a major e-commerce site integrates bitcoin? Those that prophesy a downtrend because bitcoin adoption is unsustainable should at the very least back up their arguments with logic.

That's not to say a major flaw could be discovered tomorrow and the price tanks to $0. Both are possible, why do you think one is probable over the other, and what proof other than napkin logic and feelings do you have?

I should clarify, I mean the trend with relation to precious metals. I do not believe BTC will appreciate much farther against silver and gold. That's also what I meant by exit plan; in spite of new money, you can't eat bitcoins.

Why do you think it's unsustainable. It doesn't matter which relationship we are discussing. If it is a generalized belief, that's all well and good. This is the speculation sub-forum after all, and all opinions are welcome. I don't however, agree with statements like The trend right now is unsustainable. This is what we know.. We don't know this, and you haven't offered up any explanation as to why you feel this way.

As an aside, currency was not made to be eaten. If you are, you're doing it wrong.

In comparison to percentage gains and losses on logarithmic charts to the upside we are seeing a linear progression towards zero in silver/BTC. We know it's unsustainable because precious metals can never be worth zero. Especially an industrial metal like silver. The scary thing about the charts is that the progression is linear. It's not stopping. People will double and triple on these moves. Imagine investing just 150 BTC $35 into $28 silver. (203 oz.) When BTC falls back down to $20, and silver goes back to $38, which are just normal, expected technical points, you now have 386 BTC. More than 100%. We don't know when we will hit these technical points but we must expect to hit them to be honest traders. Otherwise, if there is no other news, no supporting macroeconomic picture, we're just gambling.
hero member
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February 28, 2013, 10:19:02 PM
#43
The current McCorvic Index:
1 btc : 334 pizza rolls
vip
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February 28, 2013, 10:15:01 PM
#42
I should clarify, I mean the trend with relation to precious metals. I do not believe BTC will appreciate much farther against silver and gold. That's also what I meant by exit plan; in spite of new money, you can't eat bitcoins.

Looks like someone hasn't heard of the McCorvic index.

What are you trying to say?
hero member
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February 28, 2013, 03:02:11 PM
#41
Do you have any analysis as to why this trend is unsustainable? It perplexes me why there are those on the forum who are only willing to accept slight success for bitcoin. What if a small country adopts bitcoin as their national currency? What if a major e-commerce site integrates bitcoin? Those that prophesy a downtrend because bitcoin adoption is unsustainable should at the very least back up their arguments with logic.

That's not to say a major flaw could be discovered tomorrow and the price tanks to $0. Both are possible, why do you think one is probable over the other, and what proof other than napkin logic and feelings do you have?

I should clarify, I mean the trend with relation to precious metals. I do not believe BTC will appreciate much farther against silver and gold. That's also what I meant by exit plan; in spite of new money, you can't eat bitcoins.

Why do you think it's unsustainable. It doesn't matter which relationship we are discussing. If it is a generalized belief, that's all well and good. This is the speculation sub-forum after all, and all opinions are welcome. I don't however, agree with statements like The trend right now is unsustainable. This is what we know.. We don't know this, and you haven't offered up any explanation as to why you feel this way.

As an aside, currency was not made to be eaten. If you are, you're doing it wrong.
legendary
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Enabling the maximal migration
February 28, 2013, 02:50:39 PM
#40

I should clarify, I mean the trend with relation to precious metals. I do not believe BTC will appreciate much farther against silver and gold. That's also what I meant by exit plan; in spite of new money, you can't eat bitcoins.

True.



That at least is a new argument.
hero member
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February 28, 2013, 02:38:17 PM
#39
I should clarify, I mean the trend with relation to precious metals. I do not believe BTC will appreciate much farther against silver and gold. That's also what I meant by exit plan; in spite of new money, you can't eat bitcoins.

Looks like someone hasn't heard of the McCorvic index.
legendary
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February 28, 2013, 02:35:58 PM
#38

It's going to be right around here, I'm fairly certain.

Shit, Proud, what are we supposed to do with "fairly certain"... give us an absolute certainty so we know to move in the opposite direction, will you?
vip
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February 28, 2013, 02:34:37 PM
#37
Do you have any analysis as to why this trend is unsustainable? It perplexes me why there are those on the forum who are only willing to accept slight success for bitcoin. What if a small country adopts bitcoin as their national currency? What if a major e-commerce site integrates bitcoin? Those that prophesy a downtrend because bitcoin adoption is unsustainable should at the very least back up their arguments with logic.

That's not to say a major flaw could be discovered tomorrow and the price tanks to $0. Both are possible, why do you think one is probable over the other, and what proof other than napkin logic and feelings do you have?

I should clarify, I mean the trend with relation to precious metals. I do not believe BTC will appreciate much farther against silver and gold. That's also what I meant by exit plan; in spite of new money, you can't eat bitcoins.
hero member
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February 28, 2013, 02:32:36 PM
#36

It's going to be right around here, I'm fairly certain.

Now you are just doing it for the lulz

Nahh, because people have seen speculative frenzies like this before. This isn't a new situation to anyone but the likes of ElectricMucus (lol).

It MAY jump as high as $40. Who knows? Who cares? You CAN'T cash out at the top. You just want to stay with the trend. The trend right now is unsustainable. This is what we know. Do you have an exit plan? Surely you know the saying, bears make money, bulls make money, but pigs get slaughtered.

Do you have any analysis as to why this trend is unsustainable? It perplexes me why there are those on the forum who are only willing to accept slight success for bitcoin. What if a small country adopts bitcoin as their national currency? What if a major e-commerce site integrates bitcoin? Those that prophesy a downtrend because bitcoin adoption is unsustainable should at the very least back up their arguments with logic.


That's not to say a major flaw could be discovered tomorrow and the price tanks to $0. Both are possible, why do you think one is probable over the other, and what proof other than napkin logic and feelings do you have?
legendary
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Enabling the maximal migration
February 28, 2013, 02:25:17 PM
#35

It's going to be right around here, I'm fairly certain.

Now you are just doing it for the lulz

Nahh, because people have seen speculative frenzies like this before. This isn't a new situation to anyone but the likes of ElectricMucus (lol).

It MAY jump as high as $40. Who knows? Who cares? You CAN'T cash out at the top. You just want to stay with the trend. The trend right now is unsustainable. This is what we know. Do you have an exit plan? Surely you know the saying, bears make money, bulls make money, but pigs get slaughtered.

Exit plan? Yeah, sure. I'm working on my exit from fiat and its coming along nicely.
vip
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February 28, 2013, 02:15:42 PM
#34

It's going to be right around here, I'm fairly certain.

Now you are just doing it for the lulz

Nahh, because people have seen speculative frenzies like this before. This isn't a new situation to anyone but the likes of ElectricMucus (lol).

It MAY jump as high as $40. Who knows? Who cares? You CAN'T cash out at the top. You just want to stay with the trend. The trend right now is unsustainable. This is what we know. Do you have an exit plan? Surely you know the saying, bears make money, bulls make money, but pigs get slaughtered.
legendary
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Enabling the maximal migration
February 28, 2013, 02:13:31 PM
#33

It's going to be right around here, I'm fairly certain.

Now you are just doing it for the lulz
legendary
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February 28, 2013, 02:12:38 PM
#32

It's going to be right around here, I'm fairly certain.
vip
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February 28, 2013, 02:09:58 PM
#31
This is probably the top.

oh look its proudhon.  Smiley

This is probably the top.
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
February 28, 2013, 02:05:20 PM
#30
My technical analysis is never wrong. Here is another:

_/\_----^_/

Buy or sell based upon that and you are all set for big money.
legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
February 28, 2013, 01:53:57 PM
#29
it's just that we are the only ones in a world currency race to debase with the parking brake pulled.
legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
February 28, 2013, 12:31:17 PM
#28
This is probably the top.

oh look its proudhon.  Smiley
copper member
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February 28, 2013, 12:16:01 PM
#27
I like the "slow" upward trend.. slow compared to the 2011 peak !

It's look like a very sustainable growth, especially with what bitcoin are today compared to what it was 2 years ago !

I bet we will never be able to buy BTC under 30 !  ever !

I'll still buy all the way up to 100, then hold !

UNLESS there's some security concern or something like MtGox leaving US customers turns to be real (and even then), or the US government comes up with soem stupid regulation that will prevent americans from obtaining bitcoin in an easy/secure way. I don't think we'll see BTC under $30 ever again.
legendary
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Bitcoin
February 28, 2013, 12:13:07 PM
#26
I like the "slow" upward trend.. slow compared to the 2011 peak !

It's look like a very sustainable growth, especially with what bitcoin are today compared to what it was 2 years ago !

I bet we will never be able to buy BTC under 30 !  ever !

I'll still buy all the way up to 100, then hold !
legendary
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rippleFanatic
February 28, 2013, 11:47:10 AM
#25
Its going up too fast. Ooh, now its going up too slow!

It went up, but time to go back down. Turning down now... okay trend changed. Gonna go all the way down, naturally..

Bear logic.
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