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Topic: [Yet another Yobit topic because I'm a hypocrite] Yobit shitposting participants - page 3. (Read 1580 times)

legendary
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Why are you interesting only supporters of YoBit signature campaign? Y

Erm, the evidence is yelling at you in the face at the top of this thread.

I'm sure you're a wonderful addition the forum but most of the posters are not. Almost every post I've seen with that signature is meaningless junk by long dead accounts with no merit. Any other established campaign would boot them immediately, not that they could've gotten in anyway.

Let's give it a week or so to settle down and see if they do anything but so far the campaign deserves all of the derision it's getting.
legendary
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Why are you interesting only supporters of YoBit signature campaign? You're acting like a child, there are a lot of fucking signature campaigns but you are only interesting with YoBit. YoBit is ten times more reliable than people like you. You call people a shitposter because their mother tongue isn't in English, no one doesn't have to speak perfect English. Many people who don't have enough incomes can earn BTC thanks to bounty campaigns. If you don't want to see post of signatures, tell Theymos, Cyrus or BadBear to ban signature campaigns. Stake.com's signature campaign has no limit to sending a message to the forum but you are only interesting with Yobit! Yes, you are hypocrite.
legendary
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Personally, I can't wait for the avalanche of "yobit is teh scammz!!!!1!!!" threads when participants get (silently) removed by the "very conscientious Yobit campaign management" for spamming/shitposting/alt abusing etc and they don't get paid their 0.00012000 btc per post. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Today Yobit posted this (I'm not sure that's their official account):
Quick update: We have found many users abusing our campaign with multiple accounts.  Anyone signing up multiple accounts WILL BE PERMANENTLY BANNED from this signature campaign.  We haven't gotten around to removing accounts with negative trust yet but they will also be removed after our next update.

Thanks for everyone that has joined and keep in mind that short spam posts will not be tolerated in the future.  If we find you burst posting short one liners you will be removed from this campaign when we do our manual checks.  Aim for at least 3-4 lines and please fix any grammatical errors and always stay on topic.
I hope it's not just a words and they will start acting soon. Unlimited number of participants (over 350 in just few days), no merit requirements, everyone can join as long as he have at least Sr. Member account even with red trust and make up to 20 posts per day - it's terrible combination. Probably this campaign produce more spam than most of bounties in the end of 2017 - start of 2018.
legendary
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Personally, I can't wait for the avalanche of "yobit is teh scammz!!!!1!!!" threads when participants get (silently) removed by the "very conscientious Yobit campaign management" for spamming/shitposting/alt abusing etc and they don't get paid their 0.00012000 btc per post. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


In other news... @suchmoon, Does your list filter for forum rank? I think I spotted a couple of "member" accounts... And I thought the campaign was limited to ≥Sr. member? Huh

Are they wearing the signature? I don't filter by anything other than the signature.

This is enough, most of the accounts will be filtered out on this way.

I have updated the list. Check the description of the "PPD" columns in the OP. You can see that the vast majority of participants increased their posting significantly and there are many who didn't post at all prior to the campaign.
legendary
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I think what I'll do is calculate average daily posts for 7 days prior to April 19, which I believe is when the campaign started. Dormant accounts would have zero or close to zero posts. I can't easily find how long they've been dormant but this should give you something to look into.

This is enough, most of the accounts will be filtered out on this way.
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legendary
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Personally, I can't wait for the avalanche of "yobit is teh scammz!!!!1!!!" threads when participants get (silently) removed by the "very conscientious Yobit campaign management" for spamming/shitposting/alt abusing etc and they don't get paid their 0.00012000 btc per post. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


In other news... @suchmoon, Does your list filter for forum rank? I think I spotted a couple of "member" accounts... And I thought the campaign was limited to ≥Sr. member? Huh
legendary
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Unfortunately I have no easy way of doing that. I don't even know when exactly they started wearing a specific signature although in this case we can assume it's been within the last couple of days. I'll see what I can do but it doesn't look promising so far.

I haven't look at them deeply but I saw yesterday few accounts senior+ with no message in over 6 months start posting with this signature to cap or getting closer to the signature's cap post.

I think what I'll do is calculate average daily posts for 7 days prior to April 19, which I believe is when the campaign started. Dormant accounts would have zero or close to zero posts. I can't easily find how long they've been dormant but this should give you something to look into.
legendary
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Unfortunately I have no easy way of doing that. I don't even know when exactly they started wearing a specific signature although in this case we can assume it's been within the last couple of days. I'll see what I can do but it doesn't look promising so far.

I haven't look at them deeply but I saw yesterday few accounts senior+ with no message in over 6 months start posting with this signature to cap or getting closer to the signature's cap post.

legendary
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Wondering why OP missing Yobit campaign since you made 22 post within past 24 hours  Wink

LOL, yeah I missed my chance to make twenty bucks...

Well, if I ever decide to wear a paid sig it won't be Yobit for sure. It looks like a ponzi pretending to be an exchange and that's based on my experience with them from a couple of years ago... looks like they went in even deeper since then, IEO and other nonsense.

@suchmoon I ask here too, maybe you lost my message on the other thread.

Can you also post the habit on weeks before of those accounts? It will speed up the process to find potential alts <3

Unfortunately I have no easy way of doing that. I don't even know when exactly they started wearing a specific signature although in this case we can assume it's been within the last couple of days. I'll see what I can do but it doesn't look promising so far.
legendary
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You can create multiple Yobit accounts trivially (I presume), however this does not mean Yobit does not know when you have two accounts. They can look at your IP address, and browser fingerprint (including cookies they leave in your browser) to detect if you have multiple accounts, and the identities of the multiple accounts.

You generally have to know what you are doing to truly appear to only have one account when you have two. Based on the quality of posts being made by several people within the yobit campaign, I am going to assume they don't have the required knowledge to do this.

     Quite frankly, I'm not confident that Yobit's technical team is going to keep on top of it. There is a reason the have over 1400+ coins listed. They fail to delist shitcoins that are long dead with no chance of revival.   I just hope that they can install a decent campaign manager, quick, who can spoonfeed them exactly which accounts get the banhammer.

Well.. If they can't even weed out people with negative trust.... I'm not either. (They're currently just getting paid.) I guess that shows how competent their development team/community manager really is.

As detecting whether or not someone has negative trust is a piece of cake to do manually, and probably even easier if you simply automically scrape each participant...?

Everyone who has used the internet before should be able to do a simple task like blacklisting people who currently have negative trust from participating. There's really no excuse to this laziness from yobit.
legendary
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@suchmoon I ask here too, maybe you lost my message on the other thread.

Can you also post the habit on weeks before of those accounts? It will speed up the process to find potential alts <3
legendary
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They are growing too fast 350 participant in one day... I received email from yobit yesterday that they are now accepting new participant so I think there are many alts woke up just today and join in yobit campaign.  They should prevent/remove alt accounts from joining/accepting to their campaign as I'm sure there are many alt accounts joined and coming soon and I believe that it may lead to spam very soon.

 
    Quite frankly, I'm not confident that Yobit's technical team is going to keep on top of it. There is a reason the have over 1400+ coins listed. They fail to delist shitcoins that are long dead with no chance of revival.   I just hope that they can install a decent campaign manager, quick, who can spoonfeed them exactly which accounts get the banhammer.
I currently have some shitcoins out there from 2016 and until now the coin still stuck on withdrawal maybe they don't have a plan to remove it so that other people may fall to buy it and scam.  

Yobit team is too lazy they want to automate everything. Let's hope that they can hire a campaign manager or much better they reduce the daily post count to 3 or 5 daily might be enough.
legendary
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You can create multiple Yobit accounts trivially (I presume), however this does not mean Yobit does not know when you have two accounts. They can look at your IP address, and browser fingerprint (including cookies they leave in your browser) to detect if you have multiple accounts, and the identities of the multiple accounts.

You generally have to know what you are doing to truly appear to only have one account when you have two. Based on the quality of posts being made by several people within the yobit campaign, I am going to assume they don't have the required knowledge to do this.

     Quite frankly, I'm not confident that Yobit's technical team is going to keep on top of it. There is a reason they have over 1400+ coins listed. They fail to delist shitcoins that are long dead with no chance of revival.   I just hope that they can install a decent campaign manager, quick, who can spoonfeed them exactly which accounts get the banhammer.
member
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Finally there is some update from yobit (not sure they are official support team)

Quick update: We have found many users abusing our campaign with multiple accounts.  Anyone signing up multiple accounts WILL BE PERMANENTLY BANNED from this signature campaign.  We haven't gotten around to removing accounts with negative trust yet but they will also be removed after our next update.

Thanks for everyone that has joined and keep in mind that short spam posts will not be tolerated in the future.  If we find you burst posting short one liners you will be removed from this campaign when we do our manual checks.  Aim for at least 3-4 lines and please fix any grammatical errors and always stay on topic.

So hopefully most of the spammers and abusers will be removed. Smiley

I'd say they're just trying to act like they care about these things by posting that until proven otherwise so that they can run the campaign for a week or two and they probably thinking the sensitivity all over the forum about this issue will be decreased by then and they can continue for a good long time (if we assume that's an actual yobit support posted that), red trusted users and multi accounts probably wouldn't be accepted either right now or soon since these exchanges tend to care a lot about their reputation specially when they don't have much reputation left to begin with like Yobit, but I really don't think the spam issue will be resolved much if any at all, you're practically calling for spams when you make 20 posts a day limit and you pay for that amount of posts.

And at last if this campaign is going to stay here and continue advertising considering many scam accusations against them here I'm just wondering how many more people will fall for their traps and used their exchange and how many more scam accusation thread will be opened soon about them here, and more importantly is it a good look for this forum having the banner of a known scammy exchange all over the pages ?, I mean they don't even have a limit for maximum number of participants they accept.
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It is fairly easy for Yobit to detect multi accounts in their campaign because they need to sign up via their yobit account.

Obviously this is all their words and until it is clear these people are not getting paid, it will be difficult to verify.

I would anticipate the negative trust rule will not be enforced if their participants start getting negative trust in masse 

Yobit only allows a person to register one user id per account. However, Yobit has close to zero KYC requirements. There is little stopping someone from have a different yobit account for each account here. Let's hope the worst spammers are not too bright and take the addtional steps needed to avoid detection.
You can create multiple Yobit accounts trivially (I presume), however this does not mean Yobit does not know when you have two accounts. They can look at your IP address, and browser fingerprint (including cookies they leave in your browser) to detect if you have multiple accounts, and the identities of the multiple accounts.

You generally have to know what you are doing to truly appear to only have one account when you have two. Based on the quality of posts being made by several people within the yobit campaign, I am going to assume they don't have the required knowledge to do this.
legendary
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It is fairly easy for Yobit to detect multi accounts in their campaign because they need to sign up via their yobit account.

Obviously this is all their words and until it is clear these people are not getting paid, it will be difficult to verify.

I would anticipate the negative trust rule will not be enforced if their participants start getting negative trust in masse 

Yobit only allows a person to register one user id per account. However, Yobit has close to zero KYC requirements. There is little stopping someone from have a different yobit account for each account here. Let's hope the worst spammers are not too bright and take the addtional steps needed to avoid detection.
copper member
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Finally there is some update from yobit (not sure they are official support team)

Quick update: We have found many users abusing our campaign with multiple accounts.  Anyone signing up multiple accounts WILL BE PERMANENTLY BANNED from this signature campaign.  We haven't gotten around to removing accounts with negative trust yet but they will also be removed after our next update.

Thanks for everyone that has joined and keep in mind that short spam posts will not be tolerated in the future.  If we find you burst posting short one liners you will be removed from this campaign when we do our manual checks.  Aim for at least 3-4 lines and please fix any grammatical errors and always stay on topic.

So hopefully most of the spammers and abusers will be removed. Smiley
It is fairly easy for Yobit to detect multi accounts in their campaign because they need to sign up via their yobit account.

Obviously this is all their words and until it is clear these people are not getting paid, it will be difficult to verify.

I would anticipate the negative trust rule will not be enforced if their participants start getting negative trust in masse 
legendary
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Wondering why OP missing Yobit campaign since you made 22 post within past 24 hours  Wink

Although they warn participants but I don't think it will helpful to prevent spam without hire well reputed managers.
legendary
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Thanks for the list, I had asked LoyceV if he could provide an average earned merit of the participants of the campaign, your list makes it easy to calculate.  The 351 participants so far average 12.1 earned merit each.  That's actually more than I would have guessed, but there are 169 participants, almost half with 0 earned merit.  

There are 364 participants now. I'll update the list perhaps when it gets to 400. So the average has gone down to 11.7. Very quality wow spam.

Although most of this seems to be good news, I'm not certain if I like the idea of being subjected to 3-4 lines of utter nonsense over a slew of insubstantial posts.

Yeah that's basically a cop out. They don't seem to be committed to quality.

Do you want my style lists? Like https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50703104
If so, a list of userIDs is easiest.

Let me try to incorporate the links myself when I do the next refresh. I think the only stuff that my list is missing compared to yours is BPIP, trust, and earned merit links.
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Do you want my style lists? Like https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50703104
If so, a list of userIDs is easiest.
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