[∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 1% fee solo mining USA/DE 251 blocks solved! - page 376.

jonnybravo0311

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Mine at Jonny's Pool

Quote from: PrivacyBTC on May 13, 2015, 11:29:34 AM

This user found block in 25 April then best share was reset , Until now his bestshare and my bestshare stuck (19 days same best share)
while i spent about 11 btc on this block

https://solo.nicehash.com/bitcoin/user/13vTagC3h6F7crUdtaZURxcWmkEexJb27i.htm#tabcontent_month

You'll have to take that up with NH support. I don't know how they coded the display of best share... looks like they just report the best share ever found since that worker started. Here on ck solo pool, the best share value is reset every time a block is found.

PrivacyBTC

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This user found block in 25 April then best share was reset , Until now his bestshare and my bestshare stuck (19 days same best share)
while i spent about 11 btc on this block

https://solo.nicehash.com/bitcoin/user/13vTagC3h6F7crUdtaZURxcWmkEexJb27i.htm#tabcontent_month

jonnybravo0311

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Activity: 1344

Merit: 1024

Mine at Jonny's Pool

Quote from: NiceHashSupport on May 13, 2015, 10:43:34 AM

I guess you did not read my reply. Remaining BTC is not something to rely on due to:
- each order can be cancelled at any time
- each order can be refilled at any time

This just causes confusion among many people thus it will be soon removed from public view (you will be able to view only remaining BTC of your orders).

Besides, NiceHashBot source is publicly available, anyone can modify it and adjust to own needs.

Actually, I did read your reply about remaining BTC. I personally don't find it to be a confusing stat, but if you're going to remove it, then so be it.

To be honest, I haven't looked at the source code for the bot, I was just speculating with kano. However, now that you've pointed it out, I'll take a look. Thanks for that

.

Quote from: PrivacyBTC on May 13, 2015, 10:51:02 AM

Dr Con Thanks very much and Thank you all for reply .

I'm not mining in ck pool I said Im on solo.nicehach which is using ck pool last update .

But my question is since one user made now 138 billion and didnt find a block since 20 days . Can newone join and solve a block at lower diff like 50 billion ?

plz chk https://solo.nicehash.com/bitcoin/users.htm

I don't see where the problem is. I see the user 15CCAo25iKBHDwx6PNGiXM8X8g3C9CSeZC found a share with difficulty 138,652,424,600.44. Looking at the blockchain for that address, I see that address received the block reward for 353625.

Looks like everything is working as expected to me.

philipma1957

legendary

Activity: 4256

Merit: 8551

'The right to privacy matters'

the

ckpool-solo-club's third shot at a block

we have 10 people in. So this one is closed

7 have paid 1 btc

waiting on the last 3 shares to be paid

goal is to mine 1ph for about 1 day

250th at west hash and 750gh at nice hash

I will try to start up on sat the 16th ot very early sun the 17th

goal is to not over pay which means using about 0.0095 to 0.0101per th

PrivacyBTC

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Dr Con Thanks very much and Thank you all for reply .

I'm not mining in ck pool I said Im on solo.nicehach which is using ck pool last update .

But my question is since one user made now 138 billion and didnt find a block since 20 days . Can newone join and solve a block at lower diff like 50 billion ?

plz chk https://solo.nicehash.com/bitcoin/users.htm

NiceHashSupport

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Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on May 13, 2015, 09:46:41 AM

Quote from: kano on May 13, 2015, 09:32:10 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 13, 2015, 08:11:44 AM

Quote from: akashamar on May 13, 2015, 01:18:25 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 12, 2015, 10:55:47 PM

Sunday the 17th for another try. I am busy the next few days so I can't babysit the pc.

Hey, philipma1957, like kenshirothefist said a few posts back - why the heck aren't you using NiceHashBot? It will do the babysitting for you ... all you have to do is to run a simple app...

That app is easier but it does have no ability to think 2 moves ahead. Lets say you are at 0.0097 a th with 500 th and some one is at 0.0096 with 400th just under you. Your max setting is 0.0100
Someone does a very small max order which does not last long puts it in for 0.0099 if I see this I think 2 moves ahead and do nothing the small max order burns up . The bot sees this and moves my order to 0.0100 I am pretty much anti bot for this type of renting. A lot of people all using bots basically tends to drive the renting price upwards more then babysitting the site does.
...

Hmm, a bot should be making sure you profit the best, not the pool.
I guess their bot programmer isn't very good or is happy to make the pool profit more.
I wonder which it is Tongue

My guess is the bot programmer wasn't thinking of scenarios like this. Likely the bot just says, "give me a min/max range and I'll make sure that I maintain orders for you within that range". It'd need to have a bit of intelligence to be able to say, "ok... somebody just outbid me, but that bid is going to burn through very quickly because he didn't put a whole lot of coin behind it, so I'll not bother getting into a bidding war with him and just let my current order ride it out."

Of course even then the bot would have to have some kind of parameter to limit that behavior, otherwise it could be that it would never move ahead if a number of small coin orders keep flowing in that are just above your rate...

Example:

You have 10BTC in an order and put a range of 0.0097 - 0.0101.
A bunch of people throw in 0.1BTC orders at 0.0100.

Wow... I'm way off topic Tongue

Congrats to the latest block finder! Phil - I sent you a PM re: ck solo club episode 3.

Quote from: kano on May 13, 2015, 09:39:15 AM

Quote from: icey on May 13, 2015, 09:28:57 AM

200 billion should have got you a block, unless it became an orphan if I'm not mistaken.

What address are you mining to so we can have a look?

No, 200 billion is (currently) only 420% which has a CDF of 0.985 ...
which means 1.5% of the time it should average to take longer than 200 billion at the current difficulty.

I read it as he found a diff 200G share... such a share would indeed find a block and he'd get the reward unless the block was orphaned.

I guess you did not read my reply. Remaining BTC is not something to rely on due to:
- each order can be cancelled at any time
- each order can be refilled at any time

This just causes confusion among many people thus it will be soon removed from public view (you will be able to view only remaining BTC of your orders).

Besides, NiceHashBot source is publicly available, anyone can modify it and adjust to own needs.

philipma1957

legendary

Activity: 4256

Merit: 8551

'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: os2sam on May 13, 2015, 10:21:30 AM

Quote from: PrivacyBTC on May 13, 2015, 08:51:58 AM

Mr Con
May I ask you
If one miner make 200 billion best share 200,000,000,000 and didn't discover a block , That mean block diff not in 0 to 200 billion ?

Or someone new join and made a 50 billion bestshare can solve ? Or he must do over 200 billion to solve it.

200 or 50 Billion, it doesn't matter both are block solves at this difficulty. And the 200B will have no effect on the difficulty on the following block. The difficulty is adjusted every 2016 blocks and that is the target of all block solves for that period of 2016 blocks.

If the 200Billion share didn't get rewarded then it must have been orphaned.

Well if it was orphaned ckpool did not show an orphan in months. IIRC.

As I understand this the guy did a solo pool ticket from nicehash .

NICEHASH pointed the ticket to ck's solo pool and the guy got a 200 bill share with no block reward.

Which means something is wrong if and this is a huge if the poster really got a 200 bill share.

20,000,000,000 looks like 200,000,000,000

without the commas look below:

20000000000 200000000000 one number is 20 bill the other is 200 bill

To the poster do you have a screen shot or any kind of proof?

This appears to be an older problem 20 days old? Maybe I am reading this wrong.

os2sam

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Think for yourself

Quote from: PrivacyBTC on May 13, 2015, 08:51:58 AM

Mr Con
May I ask you
If one miner make 200 billion best share 200,000,000,000 and didn't discover a block , That mean block diff not in 0 to 200 billion ?

Or someone new join and made a 50 billion bestshare can solve ? Or he must do over 200 billion to solve it.

200 or 50 Billion, it doesn't matter both are block solves at this difficulty. And the 200B will have no effect on the difficulty on the following block. The difficulty is adjusted every 2016 blocks and that is the target of all block solves for that period of 2016 blocks.

If the 200Billion share didn't get rewarded then it must have been orphaned.

-ck

legendary

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Ruu \o/

Quote from: PrivacyBTC on May 13, 2015, 08:51:58 AM

Mr Con
May I ask you
If one miner make 200 billion best share 200,000,000,000 and didn't discover a block , That mean block diff not in 0 to 200 billion ?

Or someone new join and made a 50 billion bestshare can solve ? Or he must do over 200 billion to solve it.

another question

Why bestshare can stuck for 20 days in pool 'stats without update ? ( using your ck pool last update )

Is that bug or normal

solo.nicehach said they using ck pool and they don't know why my bestshare stuck.

Actually it's Dr Con not Mr, but Con will suffice.

I have no record of any share being over 200 billion and if there was such a share the pool would have tried to submit it and I'd have a record of it being rejected or orphaned. If on the other hand you got that on some other pool, then that's nothing to do with me as they run their own custom code (or custom code on top of my ckpool) and either they have broken something or have a similar record to what I just described. You'll have to take it up with them. Best share only goes up when... you get a better share as others have tried to tell you and resets to zero when a block is found by anyone on the pool.

jonnybravo0311

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Activity: 1344

Merit: 1024

Mine at Jonny's Pool

Quote from: kano on May 13, 2015, 09:32:10 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 13, 2015, 08:11:44 AM

Quote from: akashamar on May 13, 2015, 01:18:25 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 12, 2015, 10:55:47 PM

Sunday the 17th for another try. I am busy the next few days so I can't babysit the pc.

Hey, philipma1957, like kenshirothefist said a few posts back - why the heck aren't you using NiceHashBot? It will do the babysitting for you ... all you have to do is to run a simple app...

That app is easier but it does have no ability to think 2 moves ahead. Lets say you are at 0.0097 a th with 500 th and some one is at 0.0096 with 400th just under you. Your max setting is 0.0100
Someone does a very small max order which does not last long puts it in for 0.0099 if I see this I think 2 moves ahead and do nothing the small max order burns up . The bot sees this and moves my order to 0.0100 I am pretty much anti bot for this type of renting. A lot of people all using bots basically tends to drive the renting price upwards more then babysitting the site does.
...

Hmm, a bot should be making sure you profit the best, not the pool.
I guess their bot programmer isn't very good or is happy to make the pool profit more.
I wonder which it is Tongue

My guess is the bot programmer wasn't thinking of scenarios like this. Likely the bot just says, "give me a min/max range and I'll make sure that I maintain orders for you within that range". It'd need to have a bit of intelligence to be able to say, "ok... somebody just outbid me, but that bid is going to burn through very quickly because he didn't put a whole lot of coin behind it, so I'll not bother getting into a bidding war with him and just let my current order ride it out."

Of course even then the bot would have to have some kind of parameter to limit that behavior, otherwise it could be that it would never move ahead if a number of small coin orders keep flowing in that are just above your rate...

Example:

You have 10BTC in an order and put a range of 0.0097 - 0.0101.
A bunch of people throw in 0.1BTC orders at 0.0100.

Wow... I'm way off topic Tongue

Congrats to the latest block finder! Phil - I sent you a PM re: ck solo club episode 3.

Quote from: kano on May 13, 2015, 09:39:15 AM

Quote from: icey on May 13, 2015, 09:28:57 AM

200 billion should have got you a block, unless it became an orphan if I'm not mistaken.

What address are you mining to so we can have a look?

No, 200 billion is (currently) only 420% which has a CDF of 0.985 ...
which means 1.5% of the time it should average to take longer than 200 billion at the current difficulty.

I read it as he found a diff 200G share... such a share would indeed find a block and he'd get the reward unless the block was orphaned.

philipma1957

legendary

Activity: 4256

Merit: 8551

'The right to privacy matters'

Okay I have a full card for the next try. 10 shares at 1 btc each.

I kind of want to do this late sat to late sun.

or sun morning to mon morning.

I am thinking to do:

250th westhash
750th nicehash

kano

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Activity: 4592

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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

Quote from: icey on May 13, 2015, 09:28:57 AM

200 billion should have got you a block, unless it became an orphan if I'm not mistaken.

What address are you mining to so we can have a look?

No, 200 billion is (currently) only 420% which has a CDF of 0.985 ...
which means 1.5% of the time it should average to take longer than 200 billion at the current difficulty.

kano

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Activity: 4592

Merit: 1851

Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 13, 2015, 08:11:44 AM

Quote from: akashamar on May 13, 2015, 01:18:25 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 12, 2015, 10:55:47 PM

Sunday the 17th for another try. I am busy the next few days so I can't babysit the pc.

Hey, philipma1957, like kenshirothefist said a few posts back - why the heck aren't you using NiceHashBot? It will do the babysitting for you ... all you have to do is to run a simple app...

That app is easier but it does have no ability to think 2 moves ahead. Lets say you are at 0.0097 a th with 500 th and some one is at 0.0096 with 400th just under you. Your max setting is 0.0100
Someone does a very small max order which does not last long puts it in for 0.0099 if I see this I think 2 moves ahead and do nothing the small max order burns up . The bot sees this and moves my order to 0.0100 I am pretty much anti bot for this type of renting. A lot of people all using bots basically tends to drive the renting price upwards more then babysitting the site does.
...

Hmm, a bot should be making sure you profit the best, not the pool.
I guess their bot programmer isn't very good or is happy to make the pool profit more.
I wonder which it is Tongue

jonnybravo0311

legendary

Activity: 1344

Merit: 1024

Mine at Jonny's Pool

Quote from: PrivacyBTC on May 13, 2015, 08:51:58 AM

Mr Con
May I ask you
If one miner make 200 billion best share 200,000,000,000 and didn't discover a block , That mean block diff not in 0 to 200 billion ?

Or someone new join and made a 50 billion bestshare can solve ? Or he must do over 200 billion to solve it.

another question

Why bestshare can stuck for 20 days in pool 'stats without update ? ( using your ck pool last update )

Is that bug or normal

solo.nicehach said they using ck pool and they don't know why my bestshare stuck.

Thanks very much

Best share updates when you find a share better than one you've previously submitted - or it resets when somebody finds a block. If you happen to find a share of 200G, that will solve a block. This does not mean the next person must find a share greater than 200G... he only needs to find a share that satisfies the network difficulty, which is currently 47G.

icey

legendary

Activity: 1578

Merit: 1000

May the coin be with you..

200 billion should have got you a block, unless it became an orphan if I'm not mistaken.

What address are you mining to so we can have a look?

PrivacyBTC

newbie

Activity: 54

Merit: 0

Mr Con
May I ask you
If one miner make 200 billion best share 200,000,000,000 and didn't discover a block , That mean block diff not in 0 to 200 billion ?

Or someone new join and made a 50 billion bestshare can solve ? Or he must do over 200 billion to solve it.

another question

Why bestshare can stuck for 20 days in pool 'stats without update ? ( using your ck pool last update )

Is that bug or normal

solo.nicehach said they using ck pool and they don't know why my bestshare stuck.

Thanks very much

NiceHashSupport

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Activity: 588

Merit: 501

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 13, 2015, 08:11:44 AM

Quote from: akashamar on May 13, 2015, 01:18:25 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 12, 2015, 10:55:47 PM

Sunday the 17th for another try. I am busy the next few days so I can't babysit the pc.

Hey, philipma1957, like kenshirothefist said a few posts back - why the heck aren't you using NiceHashBot? It will do the babysitting for you ... all you have to do is to run a simple app...

That app is easier but it does have no ability to think 2 moves ahead. Lets say you are at 0.0097 a th with 500 th and some one is at 0.0096 with 400th just under you. Your max setting is 0.0100
Someone does a very small max order which does not last long puts it in for 0.0099 if I see this I think 2 moves ahead and do nothing the small max order burns up . The bot sees this and moves my order to 0.0100 I am pretty much anti bot for this type of renting. A lot of people all using bots basically tends to drive the renting price upwards more then babysitting the site does.

Okay back to the rental I got a lot of pm's 7btc + 1btc from me = 8 btc of the 10 we are looking for. I will reply to the pm's later today.

You should never rely on 'Remaining BTC' value. In fact, we will remove this from public view because it just causes confusion for people - thinking that order will run out soon, but then such order often gets refilled with new BTC constantly. This is a 'left-over' from previous bidding system, where refilling of orders was not possible.

zapphood

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Quote from: kano on May 13, 2015, 07:32:37 AM

Another lucky winner awaiting a confirm
https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000000126eaa074c22a5f01b1eed56c2d309713fbeffc629207c40

17UhZWXLyiHmPmAb4VdFweGWRYY52qjxwp with ~20-50THs

congrats to 17UhZWXLyiHmPmAb4VdFweGWRYY52qjxwp

philipma1957

legendary

Activity: 4256

Merit: 8551

'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: akashamar on May 13, 2015, 01:18:25 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 12, 2015, 10:55:47 PM

Sunday the 17th for another try. I am busy the next few days so I can't babysit the pc.

Hey, philipma1957, like kenshirothefist said a few posts back - why the heck aren't you using NiceHashBot? It will do the babysitting for you ... all you have to do is to run a simple app...

That app is easier but it does have no ability to think 2 moves ahead. Lets say you are at 0.0097 a th with 500 th and some one is at 0.0096 with 400th just under you. Your max setting is 0.0100
Someone does a very small max order which does not last long puts it in for 0.0099 if I see this I think 2 moves ahead and do nothing the small max order burns up . The bot sees this and moves my order to 0.0100 I am pretty much anti bot for this type of renting. A lot of people all using bots basically tends to drive the renting price upwards more then babysitting the site does.

Okay back to the rental I got a lot of pm's 7btc + 1btc from me = 8 btc of the 10 we are looking for. I will reply to the pm's later today.

-ck

legendary

Activity: 4088

Merit: 1631

Ruu \o/

Quote from: BitcoinPappi on May 13, 2015, 07:42:35 AM

Quote from: kano on May 13, 2015, 07:32:37 AM

Another lucky winner awaiting a confirm
https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000000126eaa074c22a5f01b1eed56c2d309713fbeffc629207c40

17UhZWXLyiHmPmAb4VdFweGWRYY52qjxwp with ~20-50THs

It is really the luck of the draw. The group had over 500 THs and did not hit a block.

Yes but this miner has maintained 25TH for over a week (not sure how long).

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