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Topic: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining USA/DE 255 blocks solved! - page 371. (Read 1514894 times)

legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
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Also, what you're describing is possible to do on any other pool with physical miners, it's one of the issues of stratum mining where you can't actually know if miners are submitting all of their shares.
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Not sure what your point is there - that's nothing specifically to do with stratum - that's to do with all mining - including your rented miners.

As noted above - solo mining with your own hardware is protected against it coz you'd be a retard to withhold blocks when solo mining with your own hardware, but nothing stops someone renting you hardware from withholding since they get paid if you don't find blocks.

As I already made this clear before:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pps-block-withholding-and-rentals-1002086
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legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
Also, what you're describing is possible to do on any other pool with physical miners, it's one of the issues of stratum mining where you can't actually know if miners are submitting all of their shares.
PPLNS or DGM protect pool operators partially as the miners actually lose out by withholding their blocks. The only pooled mining which is "protected" is... solo mining. But thanks for your contribution and reassurance.

EDIT: Actually do you monitor how many blocks your miners solve? You said full share validation but you didn't mention blocks. Shares are worth precisely zero here.
legendary
Activity: 885
Merit: 1006
NiceHash.com
100T + seems to be the magic numbers lately.
Funny you say that. I had noticed that not a single person who rented 1+ PH has ever found a block here. Not sure exactly what that means but as well as some very lucky people there have been some very unlucky people. There is really, however, no way to confirm the hardware you are hiring isn't configured in such a way as to never find you a block mind you so you're always taking a risk (they'd need to be very nasty operators and I seriously doubt they'd risk their reputation with so much hashrate at their disposal but you never know).

Well, just to make a small comment here - hashing power from NiceHash/WestHash is as good as from any physical miner... Maybe even better, because we're the only service that is actually doing full share validation at our side to exclude any possible fakers (https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqg3).

Also, what you're describing is possible to do on any other pool with physical miners, it's one of the issues of stratum mining where you can't actually know if miners are submitting all of their shares.

Here is a sneak-peak from one of our upcoming features - hashing power buyers will be able to see detailed graph statistics for their order (speed, rejects and other possible target pool issues) and thus will be able to compare purchased hashing power to the one that target pool is getting.

Take a look at the current solo-club 1PH order (times UTC-2):





As you can see the hashing power is stable and "good quality". But I'd like to raise here another issue with "pausing" orders. As you can see, solo-club's order is on pause in particular periods or doesn't reach full speed (due to order's price limitation - this is typical for many big orders). Now, if we're talking about luck (and to be honest, luck is all about solo mining), what if your lucky moments are exactly in those "paused" periods and you're just missing them? ... just joking Smiley
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legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
I am trying to wrap my head around this.... As far a withholding the blocks or configuring the miners to not find or show the blocks? Would this be on the rig owners end or the site you rent thru?
Could be done at any level, but rig owners stand to gain by effectively earning PPS on their hashrate without the concomitant rise in diff associated with their hashrate.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1001
100T + seems to be the magic numbers lately.
Funny you say that. I had noticed that not a single person who rented 1+ PH has ever found a block here. Not sure exactly what that means but as well as some very lucky people there have been some very unlucky people. There is really, however, no way to confirm the hardware you are hiring isn't configured in such a way as to never find you a block mind you so you're always taking a risk (they'd need to be very nasty operators and I seriously doubt they'd risk their reputation with so much hashrate at their disposal but you never know).
I am trying to wrap my head around this.... As far a withholding the blocks or configuring the miners to not find or show the blocks? Would this be on the rig owners end or the site you rent thru?
legendary
Activity: 4354
Merit: 9201
'The right to privacy matters'
we are in hold mode with only the bonus fixed rate hashing

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1CqbvmuJcLFDFzFewKmBVAaghXEtByzY9Y


"bestshare": 9,717,111,133.1762638}


the big orders of 200th and 800th at west and nice hash are in a frozen state


#393676   Standard   Alive   0.0098   0.01458511   ∞   50.00   0   0.0000
#393756   Standard   Alive   0.0098   0.99647398   ∞   200.00   0   0.0000  us at west hash
#394035   Standard   Alive   0.0098   0.48487025   ∞   10.00   0   0.0000



#382338   Standard   Alive   0.0098   0.51807463   ∞   50.00   0   0.0000
#393760   Standard   Alive   0.0098   4.83884262   ∞   800.00   0   0.0000 us  at nicehash
#386619   Standard   Alive   0.0098   0.04788766   ∞   5.00   0   0.0000


we have about 13 hours left
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legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
100T + seems to be the magic numbers lately.
Funny you say that. I had noticed that not a single person who rented 1+ PH has ever found a block here. Not sure exactly what that means but as well as some very lucky people there have been some very unlucky people. There is really, however, no way to confirm the hardware you are hiring isn't configured in such a way as to never find you a block mind you so you're always taking a risk (they'd need to be very nasty operators and I seriously doubt they'd risk their reputation with so much hashrate at their disposal but you never know).
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
Another lucky winner awaiting confirm
https://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000011ef02ef1195c36e736edda14045c03ee34f84f6406b1203

1H5QBZ6GdZug2BNx6oRAi8GBCi4nuJARiK with ~125THs

Congratulations to 1H5QBZ6GdZug2BNx6oRAi8GBCi4nuJARiK

Code:
{"hashrate1m": "124T", "hashrate5m": "125T", "hashrate1hr": "125T", "hashrate1d": "46T", "hashrate7d": "7.93T"

Code:
[2015-05-16 11:04:11] Possible block solve diff 61309078439.746254 !
[2015-05-16 11:04:11] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2015-05-16 11:04:11] Solved and confirmed block 356675

Congrats!  100T + seems to be the magic numbers lately.
legendary
Activity: 1694
Merit: 1002
Go Big or Go Home.....
Good luck to the group, hoping to wake up tomorrow and see you hit a few blocks!
Us too. Lol
legendary
Activity: 4354
Merit: 9201
'The right to privacy matters'
Good luck to the group, hoping to wake up tomorrow and see you hit a few blocks!

so far zip  http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1CqbvmuJcLFDFzFewKmBVAaghXEtByzY9Y


{"hashrate1m": "252T", "hashrate5m": "347T", "hashrate1hr": "704T", "hashrate1d": "275T", "hashrate7d": "49T", "lastupdate": 1431824966, "workers": 12,

"bestshare": 9,717,111,133.1762638}

And a few are paying over our price so our hash is down a bit.

so I raise us in price to 0.0104  from 0.0100  which is 4%  and higher then we should pay.

Since I did this without asking I added funds on my dime.

see screen shot  and someone raised price upwards to 0.011  which means I amd dropping us down and going defensive.

order number 393760 will stop for a bit  it is nicehash

order numer 393756 will stop for a bit it is westhash

the fixed order 393769 my gift to the club will carry-on it is west hash  a 5th place holder

legendary
Activity: 1578
Merit: 1000
May the coin be with you..
Good luck to the group, hoping to wake up tomorrow and see you hit a few blocks!
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
How can we be part of this ck solo club??  Grin

give us 25btc and you get a full membership Grin

joking mate! come back to this thread in 23h and you will find out if the club will live on!

LE: jonnybravo0311 forgot the entrance fee of 1 block Tongue
Lol... Didn't want to scare him away right off the bat by mentioning the entrance fee Wink

maybe interested joining some later round but not yet...
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1118
Lie down. Have a cookie
How can we be part of this ck solo club??  Grin

give us 25btc and you get a full membership Grin

joking mate! come back to this thread in 23h and you will find out if the club will live on!

LE: jonnybravo0311 forgot the entrance fee of 1 block Tongue
Lol... Didn't want to scare him away right off the bat by mentioning the entrance fee Wink

it is like fight club you don't talk about fight club.

and all your blocks belong to phil Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
How can we be part of this ck solo club??  Grin

give us 25btc and you get a full membership Grin

joking mate! come back to this thread in 23h and you will find out if the club will live on!

LE: jonnybravo0311 forgot the entrance fee of 1 block Tongue
Lol... Didn't want to scare him away right off the bat by mentioning the entrance fee Wink
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
How can we be part of this ck solo club??  Grin

give us 25btc and you get a full membership Grin

joking mate! come back to this thread in 23h and you will find out if the club will live on!

LE: jonnybravo0311 forgot the entrance fee of 1 block Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
How can we be part of this ck solo club??  Grin
There are very strict guidelines, by-laws, and application processes that must be followed exactly, and then if you make it that far, there are 3 separate votes by the current members which you must win unanimously. Tongue

Kidding... it was just a bunch of us who decided to combine our coins into a single hash rental and split the rewards when we find blocks.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1004
How can we be part of this ck solo club??  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1024
Mine at Jonny's Pool
I can double post as I am sans signature campaign!


this is a fixed 5th order on west hash so we will always be hashing this is on my dime.

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1CqbvmuJcLFDFzFewKmBVAaghXEtByzY9Y

order 393769 fixed 5th on my dime  westhash---------on me
order 393756 200th  set at 0.0096   westhash-------idle  2 btc - fees


order 393760 800th set at 0.0096    nicehash-------idle  8 btc - fees
Looking forward to the fun... Already we've got a 9.7G share... Let's pop a few blocks today!
hero member
Activity: 543
Merit: 500
Congrats 1H5QBZ6GdZug2BNx6oRAi8GBCi4nuJARiK and good luck to the CK Solo club  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 4354
Merit: 9201
'The right to privacy matters'
I can double post as I am sans signature campaign!


this is a fixed 5th order on west hash so we will always be hashing this is on my dime.

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1CqbvmuJcLFDFzFewKmBVAaghXEtByzY9Y

order 393769 fixed 5th on my dime  westhash---------on me
order 393756 200th  set at 0.0096   westhash-------idle  2 btc - fees


order 393760 800th set at 0.0096    nicehash-------idle  8 btc - fees
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