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Topic: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining USA/DE 255 blocks solved! - page 453. (Read 1514844 times)

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Great idea

In essence.. The guys pointing huge amounts of hashing power to the pool make my chance of getting that one solving hash even bigger. "It's the pool and it's size what matters." From this you can calculate your "luck factor."

Unless I'm misreading what you mean you're wrong. All that matters is your own hashrate because you're SOLO mining. Just because you do it through a pool doesn't change a thing compared to running bitcoind yourself and mining on that (edit: except that ckpool takes 0.5% if you do solve a block).

EDIT: Every share you solve has a chance of being a block solver. How many shares you can solve depends solely on your own hashrate and the difficulty, not on the total hashrate of the pool.

Hmm.. But a large pool will "cloud" many shares and distribute them. So you can factor your own hashrate against the pool as opposed to the overall hashrate. That way increasing your "luck factor." The overall hash "cloud" and your single instance in that will not weigh against a large pool with a shared hashrate. That's what I mean. Shares are being solved equally over the Net, but a large pool will "suck in" a significant portion of shares, thus mining in this pool wil change your overall "luck factor" as opposed to "going it alone on the Net." It's about "time" and "volume." Am I wrong?

The way I understand it every miner here is independent of each other. You are solo mining here no different than if you were doing it yourself on your own pool. The difference is most people dont know how or have the time to set up their own pool, so you pay CK a small share to use his pool, only if you find a block.
This. @thestakes There is no such thing as sucking in shares from the net since every miner or pool generates its own shares. I Think that you are confused by the term 'pool' for this service. Although there is a total pool hashrate it doesn't mean a thing since you're solo mining; it's just a nice statistic to see how many hashrate is pointed at ckpool.

Another way of looking at it is this. Mining solo or in a pool with a given hashrate over the very long term will result in the exact same amount of bitcoins being mined. The only thing a (regular) pool does for you is making payouts much more regular since the block rewards are shared between miners and the bigger the pool hashrate the more regular it becomes. Because the block reward isn't shared on ckpool you are solo mining and it doesn't matter how big the total hashrate is.

Hope I explained it, if not then I'm sure Con or Kano will come along and do a better job. Thing to remember is that only your own hashrate and the difficulty matter and nothing else.
legendary
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Great idea

In essence.. The guys pointing huge amounts of hashing power to the pool make my chance of getting that one solving hash even bigger. "It's the pool and it's size what matters." From this you can calculate your "luck factor."

Unless I'm misreading what you mean you're wrong. All that matters is your own hashrate because you're SOLO mining. Just because you do it through a pool doesn't change a thing compared to running bitcoind yourself and mining on that (edit: except that ckpool takes 0.5% if you do solve a block).

EDIT: Every share you solve has a chance of being a block solver. How many shares you can solve depends solely on your own hashrate and the difficulty, not on the total hashrate of the pool.

Hmm.. But a large pool will "cloud" many shares and distribute them. So you can factor your own hashrate against the pool as opposed to the overall hashrate. That way increasing your "luck factor." The overall hash "cloud" and your single instance in that will not weigh against a large pool with a shared hashrate. That's what I mean. Shares are being solved equally over the Net, but a large pool will "suck in" a significant portion of shares, thus mining in this pool wil change your overall "luck factor" as opposed to "going it alone on the Net." It's about "time" and "volume." Am I wrong?

The way I understand it every miner here is independent of each other. You are solo mining here no different than if you were doing it yourself on your own pool. The difference is most people dont know how or have the time to set up their own pool, so you pay CK a small share to use his pool, only if you find a block.
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Looking at Ghash stats they used to be regularly in finding runs of consecutive blocks over a 24hr period but now it seem sthey find 3/4 consecutive with the largest gap between being 34 blocks.. for a size of that pool and a gap that big just shows it's not all about the size of the pool.
newbie
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Great idea

In essence.. The guys pointing huge amounts of hashing power to the pool make my chance of getting that one solving hash even bigger. "It's the pool and it's size what matters." From this you can calculate your "luck factor."

Unless I'm misreading what you mean you're wrong. All that matters is your own hashrate because you're SOLO mining. Just because you do it through a pool doesn't change a thing compared to running bitcoind yourself and mining on that (edit: except that ckpool takes 0.5% if you do solve a block).

EDIT: Every share you solve has a chance of being a block solver. How many shares you can solve depends solely on your own hashrate and the difficulty, not on the total hashrate of the pool.

Hmm.. But a large pool will "cloud" many shares and distribute them. So you can factor your own hashrate against the pool as opposed to the overall hashrate. That way increasing your "luck factor." The overall hash "cloud" and your single instance in that will not weigh against a large pool with a shared hashrate. That's what I mean. Shares are being solved equally over the Net, but a large pool will "suck in" a significant portion of shares, thus mining in this pool wil change your overall "luck factor" as opposed to "going it alone on the Net." It's about "time" and "volume." Am I wrong?
hero member
Activity: 537
Merit: 524
Great idea

In essence.. The guys pointing huge amounts of hashing power to the pool make my chance of getting that one solving hash even bigger. "It's the pool and it's size what matters." From this you can calculate your "luck factor."

Unless I'm misreading what you mean you're wrong. All that matters is your own hashrate because you're SOLO mining. Just because you do it through a pool doesn't change a thing compared to running bitcoind yourself and mining on that (edit: except that ckpool takes 0.5% if you do solve a block).

EDIT: Every share you solve has a chance of being a block solver. How many shares you can solve depends solely on your own hashrate and the difficulty, not on the total hashrate of the pool.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
Great idea

In essence.. The guys pointing huge amounts of hashing power to the pool make my chance of getting that one solving hash even bigger. "It's the pool and it's size what matters." From this you can calculate your "luck factor."
sr. member
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newbie
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i hitted 100ths for this shot

I pointed 1.something TH to the pool. "It's not the amount of men who are running, it's the man who wins."

Wink
legendary
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i hitted 100ths for this shot
newbie
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send me some luck(PM or email), miners pointed here!

The luck factor isn't really what is described recently.
When a pool mines blocks, it gets hashes. Those hashes are distributed amongst the miners in the pool.
Now.. One of these hashes could be the hash that solves a block.
So, the math involving the "luck factor" is way more complicated than "a dice with ~40billion sides."
But within the pool's stratum of work distributed, even a minor miner could hit the jackpot.
That's the "fun" of mining solo in - mind you - a large pool.

Comments on flaws in reasoning please..
legendary
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send me some luck(PM or email), miners pointed here!
full member
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yes, it works; found a block with rented rigs Wink

There are two reasons I can think of you're only seeing 120 TH. 1) the rig you rented isn't performing as it should or 2) the average hashrate shown on the ckpool website only climbs slowly to your real hashrate; so if you're only renting for a short period of time (my guess is you are since it would cost quite a lot to rent that much hash) the averages are way off.

That's awesome, can I ask how much you had rented to find a block? I've been trying with 50-80THs over the last day but no luck for me.

Was back in september; rented 6.25 TH/s and found a block within 24 hours. Very lucky! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8918508


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Fantastic. Roll on payday.

Currently have 4 hand warmers, sorry I mean 333mh erupter's pointing here.

I've tried using the calculators to work out how long at 340Th, would take and it returns about 8days + luck. does that sound about right?

On average with current diff it should take about 6 days with 340 TH/s but luck obviously plays a big part so you could hit a block in a minute or it could take much longer then 6 days.

EDIT: I see Quiveringgibbage already answered this question more precisely; missed it the first time.

No problem thank you for the reply(ies).
hero member
Activity: 537
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yes, it works; found a block with rented rigs Wink

There are two reasons I can think of you're only seeing 120 TH. 1) the rig you rented isn't performing as it should or 2) the average hashrate shown on the ckpool website only climbs slowly to your real hashrate; so if you're only renting for a short period of time (my guess is you are since it would cost quite a lot to rent that much hash) the averages are way off.

That's awesome, can I ask how much you had rented to find a block? I've been trying with 50-80THs over the last day but no luck for me.

Was back in september; rented 6.25 TH/s and found a block within 24 hours. Very lucky! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8918508


....

Fantastic. Roll on payday.

Currently have 4 hand warmers, sorry I mean 333mh erupter's pointing here.

I've tried using the calculators to work out how long at 340Th, would take and it returns about 8days + luck. does that sound about right?

On average with current diff it should take about 6 days with 340 TH/s but luck obviously plays a big part so you could hit a block in a minute or it could take much longer then 6 days.

EDIT: I see Quiveringgibbage already answered this question more precisely; missed it the first time.
legendary
Activity: 3586
Merit: 1098
Think for yourself
How can I set difficulty for my antminer C1? It is just really frustrating that the difficulty never changes from 1024 so no best shares are ever shown.

Best share still shows up with 1024 diff, or any diff.
from an earlier post on this thread, ckcolivias stated

That's just an S1 driver design issue. It happens when the diff is exactly a power of two and is harmless and cosmetic only but of course doesn't fix your issue.


Ah, I didn't know they used the same driver.
hero member
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http://idontALT.com
i have had a SP30(4.4THs) pointed here for 19 day 21 hr 13 min 26 sec. still no block..
http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1dontALTaR9bLrR1ZTUiyQNeFZSXh9n23.zonalis

GL everyone Wink
QG

I've tried appending +1050 after my wallet address so that the difficulty is not a power of 2, but the pool shows up as dead when I try that.
i cannot find any reference in ckpool to this "option" of using +1050 to set your diff rate.  I don't believe you can append + to your wallet address and hence the pool shows up dead when you tried.

I've tried using the calculators to work out how long at 340Th, would take and it returns about 8days + luck. does that sound about right?
Code:
[13:03:11] ;;gentime 340000000
[13:03:13] <+gribble> The average time to generate a block at 340000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 39457671307.1, is 5 days, 18 hours, 27 minutes, and 27 seconds
full member
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yes, it works; found a block with rented rigs Wink

There are two reasons I can think of you're only seeing 120 TH. 1) the rig you rented isn't performing as it should or 2) the average hashrate shown on the ckpool website only climbs slowly to your real hashrate; so if you're only renting for a short period of time (my guess is you are since it would cost quite a lot to rent that much hash) the averages are way off.

Fantastic. Roll on payday.

Currently have 4 hand warmers, sorry I mean 333mh erupter's pointing here.

I've tried using the calculators to work out how long at 340Th, would take and it returns about 8days + luck. does that sound about right?

hero member
Activity: 543
Merit: 500
yes, it works; found a block with rented rigs Wink

There are two reasons I can think of you're only seeing 120 TH. 1) the rig you rented isn't performing as it should or 2) the average hashrate shown on the ckpool website only climbs slowly to your real hashrate; so if you're only renting for a short period of time (my guess is you are since it would cost quite a lot to rent that much hash) the averages are way off.

That's awesome, can I ask how much you had rented to find a block? I've been trying with 50-80THs over the last day but no luck for me.
hero member
Activity: 537
Merit: 524
yes, it works; found a block with rented rigs Wink

There are two reasons I can think of you're only seeing 120 TH. 1) the rig you rented isn't performing as it should or 2) the average hashrate shown on the ckpool website only climbs slowly to your real hashrate; so if you're only renting for a short period of time (my guess is you are since it would cost quite a lot to rent that much hash) the averages are way off.
full member
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Would rig rental work with this pool?
I've used another one in the past but stats only recorded 120Th when I had 340Th pointed there (treat myself each month)
sr. member
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I've tried appending +1050 after my wallet address so that the difficulty is not a power of 2, but the pool shows up as dead when I try that.

I really like this pool better than the other solo mining pool for two reasons.

1) the payout is generally better since the block finder gets to keep the transaction fees
2) the payout is paid directly to the block finder

I have two antminer s1's and two antminer c1's pointed at this pool, but the c1's do not report a best share since the difficulty never adjusts from 1024

What bothers me the most is that the s1's difficulty have adjusted to 154 on one of them and 204 on the other, yet the c1's difficulty has never changed from the default 1024 difficulty.

I just want to know for sure that I am not wasting my time with the c1's
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