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Topic: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining USA/DE 255 blocks solved! - page 49. (Read 1514749 times)

-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
Ok,
So in renting a few ph/s.
Should I rent a large >50 ph/s for a few hours hours
or
Rent <25 ph/s for 12+ hrs?

Whats the better route?
It makes no difference to your chance of finding a block if you do both during the same difficulty period. However, you get to watch and hope for longer with the lower hashrate Smiley
member
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Ok,
So in renting a few ph/s.
Should I rent a large >50 ph/s for a few hours hours
or
Rent <25 ph/s for 12+ hrs?

Whats the better route?
yxt
legendary
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Code:
"bestever": 276031029

 Grin
legendary
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EIN: 82-3893490
well, as long as I can make a small profit and even if i go negative - as long as its not extreme negative - each month, I will keep on going. I quit mining back in '11 and I kick myself every day for that. I wont be quitting this go around Smiley

I may even dump all my hash either here or at kano after the first until halving. we shall see.
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
That said the bitcoin block find method does not seem fare, highest pool hashrate win the majority. Why can they not make a method that selects pools at random to evenly distribute the blocks between pools, no matter the hash-rates?   
Proof of work is bitcoin's greatest strength and its greatest Achilles heel. There is no fair way to do what you ask. Even a completely redesigned proof mechanism that attempts to do what you ask would be exploitable. This has been debated to death since its inception by much smarter people than me.
newbie
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But I cannot pay the bills with months between blocks - I just am not that large or have pockets that deep - sadly. I am also at my lowest hashrate ever right now, having just around 64 TH total. I hope to be back over 100 TH before the end of the year and hopefully up to 200 TH by the halving.
That's right, and the only way to regularly get payouts is to be with a bigger pool. Back to size we go. I didn't say miners are doing the wrong thing by sticking with size, it's just a catch 22 that makes small pools even smaller. There is no way to make small pools work in the current climate any more. No one is going to move to a small pool unless they believe in the principle and don't care about the risk, and only small miners can do this. The only way to start up a new pool is if you already have a mining conglomerate planned to dump their hashrate there so usually the pool and the miners are the one entity.

The small personal home miners are dead, completely and utterly dead. The remainder of you guys that are doing it are unbelievably persistent and I salute you, but nothing can rescue mining from this situation any more, except for bitcoin falling to below $100 again causing all the big miners and mining companies to go bankrupt. None of us want that to happen to bitcoin's value (except all-in shitcoiners and forkedshitcoiners, although they don't realise that if bitcoin dies, all shitcoins die even more.) That's why, to be honest, I'm surprised I still have miners on my two pools. If you all left, I'd quietly shut them down without any regrets, but I'd feel bad for the people on ckpool.org that have been hanging in there waiting for the next block. But bitcoin has been good to me, and I'm maintaining them as a service back to the community if you want me to continue.

ck,

   Its nice that you wrote the cgminer! Thank you for all you have done for the community. That said the bitcoin block find method does not seem fare, highest pool hashrate win the majority. Why can they not make a method that selects pools at random to evenly distribute the blocks between pools, no matter the hash-rates?    They may have or may now, just make sure its a sha256 coin please and ckpool gets it first!  ;-)

Im a home miner, playing the impossible lottery it seems. I choose ckpool because its stratum server is not consistently changing the diff but does sometimes very rarely, many other pools do not have that.

Just wanted to thank you sincerely for your investments trying to help others like us.


 
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
But I cannot pay the bills with months between blocks - I just am not that large or have pockets that deep - sadly. I am also at my lowest hashrate ever right now, having just around 64 TH total. I hope to be back over 100 TH before the end of the year and hopefully up to 200 TH by the halving.
That's right, and the only way to regularly get payouts is to be with a bigger pool. Back to size we go. I didn't say miners are doing the wrong thing by sticking with size, it's just a catch 22 that makes small pools even smaller. There is no way to make small pools work in the current climate any more. No one is going to move to a small pool unless they believe in the principle and don't care about the risk, and only small miners can do this. The only way to start up a new pool is if you already have a mining conglomerate planned to dump their hashrate there so usually the pool and the miners are the one entity.

The small personal home miners are dead, completely and utterly dead. The remainder of you guys that are doing it are unbelievably persistent and I salute you, but nothing can rescue mining from this situation any more, except for bitcoin falling to below $100 again causing all the big miners and mining companies to go bankrupt. None of us want that to happen to bitcoin's value (except all-in shitcoiners and forkedshitcoiners, although they don't realise that if bitcoin dies, all shitcoins die even more.) That's why, to be honest, I'm surprised I still have miners on my two pools. If you all left, I'd quietly shut them down without any regrets, but I'd feel bad for the people on ckpool.org that have been hanging in there waiting for the next block. But bitcoin has been good to me, and I'm maintaining them as a service back to the community if you want me to continue.
legendary
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what I dont get is why your pool mining isnt larger - you are a zero fee there right? would think that would be huge!


Multiple reasons, but it's proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's not fee that determines where people mine.

Inertia.
Size attracts more size.
Advertising.
Size attracts more size.
Fancy shit webshites.
Size attracts more size.
Deals with big miners.
Size attracts more size.
Trust perception (haha)
Size attracts more size.
Preconfigured pool defaults by mining companies
Size attracts more size.

You probably get the picture by now what is the most important factor, right?

size right? lol I get that. but for me it is just about trying to earn as much bitcoin as I can while needing to cash out only what I need to pay the electric so sadly that keeps me stuck mostly to the larger PPS pools so I can get regular payouts.

I loved Kano's when it was 200 ph - I would love it even more on yours if you had the size as well. But I cannot pay the bills with months between blocks - I just am not that large or have pockets that deep - sadly. I am also at my lowest hashrate ever right now, having just around 64 TH total. I hope to be back over 100 TH before the end of the year and hopefully up to 200 TH by the halving.
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/

what I dont get is why your pool mining isnt larger - you are a zero fee there right? would think that would be huge!


Multiple reasons, but it's proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's not fee that determines where people mine.

Inertia.
Size attracts more size.
Advertising.
Size attracts more size.
Fancy shit webshites.
Size attracts more size.
Deals with big miners.
Size attracts more size.
Trust perception (haha)
Size attracts more size.
Preconfigured pool defaults by mining companies
Size attracts more size.

You probably get the picture by now what is the most important factor, right?
legendary
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Merit: 2419
EIN: 82-3893490
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you are a zero fee there right?
No, as it says in the title of this thread, there is a 1% fee.

no at his other pool - hence the "there" part
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
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you are a zero fee there right?
No, as it says in the title of this thread, there is a 1% fee.
member
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Alright, if you're all still keen for this pool to keep running, then I'll keep it going. I don't need handouts to keep it running but thanks for the offer. This, and the other pool, are pretty much only running as a service to the community now and won't ever make me money any more. If you feel like donating absolutely as a sign of support, that's a different story, and welcome.

what I dont get is why your pool mining isnt larger - you are a zero fee there right? would think that would be huge!


I could not agree more.

legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 2419
EIN: 82-3893490
Alright, if you're all still keen for this pool to keep running, then I'll keep it going. I don't need handouts to keep it running but thanks for the offer. This, and the other pool, are pretty much only running as a service to the community now and won't ever make me money any more. If you feel like donating absolutely as a sign of support, that's a different story, and welcome.

what I dont get is why your pool mining isnt larger - you are a zero fee there right? would think that would be huge!
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
Alright, if you're all still keen for this pool to keep running, then I'll keep it going. I don't need handouts to keep it running but thanks for the offer. This, and the other pool, are pretty much only running as a service to the community now and won't ever make me money any more. If you feel like donating absolutely as a sign of support, that's a different story, and welcome.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 254
Hey, Ck.
Whats the cost of running this pool?

Lets donate for one year upfront.
I also love this pool, and dont want it to vanish.
My two s9 are still pointed here.
legendary
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with only a R606 pointed here - I am not even close lol

Code:
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 "hashrate5m": "821G",
 "hashrate1hr": "836G",
 "hashrate1d": "814G",
 "hashrate7d": "806G",
 "lastshare": 1571109693,
 "workers": 1,
 "shares": 379951104,
 "bestshare": 1062919031.553997,
 "bestever": 1062919031



newbie
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Merit: 0
A block would be nice. It's getting hard to justify running this pool since it hasn't even been paying for its running costs in quite a while.

I would like to offer to donate to the pool to ensure ck solo stays online would be a shame to see this group to vanish.
and if my miner hits CK ill pay for 10 years Smiley

Come on Outrageously lucky block where are you?Huh

Code:
"bestshare": 2104309706.262679,



Still trying! Its a looooong shot....
Code:
"lastshare": 1571100455,
 "workers": 6,
 "shares": 3826931826,
 "bestshare": 2238329837.629363,
 "bestever": 2238329837,
hero member
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Merit: 612
OGRaccoon
A block would be nice. It's getting hard to justify running this pool since it hasn't even been paying for its running costs in quite a while.

I would like to offer to donate to the pool to ensure ck solo stays online would be a shame to see this group to vanish.
and if my miner hits CK ill pay for 10 years Smiley

Come on Outrageously lucky block where are you?Huh

Code:
"bestshare": 2104309706.262679,

full member
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Merit: 131
A block would be nice. It's getting hard to justify running this pool since it hasn't even been paying for its running costs in quite a while.

maybe we should make a pot to chipin some BTC for monthly server/internet fees,

or just send it to -ck's addy
1PKN98VN2z5gwSGZvGKS2bj8aADZBkyhkZ
member
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Just browsing, i saw this website where its about BTC0.5 on 15 ph for 24-hr.
https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/sha256
im will to chip in on this, if its legit (which i believe it is). or maybe get crazy and just do it and roll the dice...
LMK fellas.

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