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Quote from: cabalism13 on August 22, 2019, 04:37:07 PM

I am not part of YOBIT, I'm just giving you a way to solve your issues.

I'm calling BS on this thread & the OP.

@OP: Provide proof of your claims. The official Yobit account (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yobit-406594) should post here too confirming what you're saying, otherwise we can assume that:

1) Your account has been sold to Yobit.

2) You are being paid by Yobit.

I simply do not believe that Yobit have suddenly decided to turn over a new leaf after years of scamming, lying, thieving, spamming & generally ripping off 100's of users for years. No f*cking way.

Proof or it's just another deceitful BS Yobit marketing ploy.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on August 22, 2019, 04:37:07 PM

I am not part of YOBIT, I'm just giving you a way to solve your issues.

Interesting, can you tell us how can you solve the issue when you don't have direct contact to the yobit exchange?
We know they are a shady exchange, but I like to know the real purpose here, is this only for sole signature campaign purpose, or there's more deeper purpose?

Not judging you here but like you admitted its risky, I also see the risk that you maybe become associated to yobit by making as a bridge to solve the problem, and if you can solve the problem, I like to ask this question, are you willing to be the campaign manager for their signature campaign?

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Quote from: cabalism13 on August 23, 2019, 07:26:00 AM

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How then are we to believe the words the user is saying, if the profile information identify the account as scam. The whole thing doesn't add up. The information on his account might be a warning from telegram as it doesn't make sense.

I am fully aware of that, As I said earlier I will keep it a secret on whom I've been talking to,... Might be shady but I'm just doing this to help the users recover what has been lost to them. I just want to be of help

I joined the group and will watch closely the results, let's give cabalism13 a chance, he has done something nobody has done, maybe there is a campaign coming here and it will be managed here in Bitcointalk or those who lose their funds will have a chance of recovery, we'll never see that if keep bashing him, goodluck to us.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on August 23, 2019, 01:35:14 AM

^Yobit have official telegram? Then how can you be sure that you are talking to someone who can fix the issues?

Seems odd to me when they don't even care about their open scam accusation on bitcointalk then how can you fix the issues.

Some guy in another yobit thread claims that this is the official yobit telegram support group https://t.me/YobiChatEn

The thread has been locked but you can read the whole response at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52151431

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they are not up to solve issues of their users but yobit just want to live another cycle to prove they still are alive and kicking unlike the other exchanges that turned scam and exits. by putting this in the mind of the new users, they are the ones that survives. they are not building their reputation again, they just want to appear like they are oldest surviving exchange.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on August 23, 2019, 07:05:52 AM

How then are we to believe the words the user is saying, if the profile information identify the account as scam. The whole thing doesn't add up. The information on his account might be a warning from telegram as it doesn't make sense.

I am fully aware of that, As I said earlier I will keep it a secret on whom I've been talking to,... Might be shady but I'm just doing this to help the users recover what has been lost to them. I just want to be of help

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Quote from: cabalism13 on August 23, 2019, 04:56:45 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on August 23, 2019, 01:35:14 AM

Seems odd to me when they don't even care about their open scam accusation on bitcointalk then how can you fix the issues.

I was also told the reason on why they can't even respond here on bitcointalk. They really can't be active here, and that's the reason why I suggested them to hire someone to be their representative to handle the concerns of the users here on the forum.

Yobit has finally made an announcement on Telegram, that they will respond on these issues/problems.

I can assure that this was an imposter because if they really concern about their signature campaign on bitcoin they need to come up with their official bitcointalk account but they never did so someone who created account called Yobit support doing the same thing on bitcointalk as well.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on August 23, 2019, 04:56:45 AM

Yobit has finally made an announcement on Telegram, that they will respond on these issues/problems.

There are numerous yobit fake accounts on telegram what assurances do you have that the account that made the announcement is an authorized yobit telegram account? Any proof to assure that?. Just viewed the profile of the announcer from your telegram group and guess the information I saw on his profile, view image

How then are we to believe the words the user is saying, if the profile information identify the account as scam. The whole thing doesn't add up. The information on his account might be a warning from telegram as it doesn't make sense.

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I think Yobit's issues are insolvable by nature; namely that they're a money-hungry greedy- ponzi scheme-esque exchange with no respect for their customers, as is obvious.

I personally don't think there's much to salvage.

Every ICO they do ends like this; https://yobit.net/en/trade/URANIX/BTC https://yobit.net/en/trade/MOON/BTC , sucking every penny out of every customer who's willing to participate.

Quote from: cabalism13 on August 23, 2019, 04:56:45 AM

I was also told the reason on why they can't even respond here on bitcointalk. They really can't be active here, and that's the reason why I suggested them to hire someone to be their representative to handle the concerns of the users here on the forum.

And so what was the reason exactly?

Also does this mean that Yobit is restarting their signature campaign?

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Quote from: Findingnemo on August 23, 2019, 01:35:14 AM

Seems odd to me when they don't even care about their open scam accusation on bitcointalk then how can you fix the issues.

I was also told the reason on why they can't even respond here on bitcointalk. They really can't be active here, and that's the reason why I suggested them to hire someone to be their representative to handle the concerns of the users here on the forum.

Yobit has finally made an announcement on Telegram, that they will respond on these issues/problems.

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To be honest, I'm not here when the time they didn't paid their participants happen.

I don't support the OP but I don't disagree with him too. I believe in "Everybody deserves a second chance". Lets just not say negative things about them at this moment. Let them run a campaign and lets observe how it runs.

To the yobit,
If they really want their reputation to be back here in the forum, I think hiring a reputable campaign manager will help. Don't run it yourself because for sure many will see it as a scam because of what happened in the past.

As I said, lets observe them first. Let them run the campaign and see how it works for a few weeks. I'm neutral with regards to this situation.

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Sounds like a good initiative as I too believe each and every business/services is important for bright future of us, the bitcoiners.

But, why in telegram instead of here in open discussion? I mean more transparency will ensure quick re-building of reputations.
I am not sure about the need of telegram but if I would have started this then definitely I have started a new topic under exchanges sub to have all the problems to be listed/summarized.

Also, time frame is missing here. I like to suggest to add some 2 weeks or 4 weeks (or more weeks) time for the people to state their problems. Otherwise people will come after 6 months and cry that their problem is still unsolved. Some lazy might be simply ignoring this (intentionally & unintentionally) when you are in full fledged active to collect their voices but will disturb the business later on.

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^Yobit have official telegram? Then how can you be sure that you are talking to someone who can fix the issues?

Seems odd to me when they don't even care about their open scam accusation on bitcointalk then how can you fix the issues.

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Quote from: Saisher on August 22, 2019, 09:26:31 PM

The only way OP can help us is if he has direct contact with support and Yobit support trust them to give accurate and fast response to all the inquiries,

I hope I answered the question already.

Quote from: Saisher on August 22, 2019, 09:26:31 PM

Yobit support is very slow to the point they ignore a communication, you can use their channel, but you need funds to use that and they don't answer sometimes on chat.

No one can't deny that, actually they already have tons emails that they haven't read so yes there are some issues that remains to be unsolved, they literally didn't know where to start, that's why this is happening.

This is a big risk, I already know that, but I already told them what to do, now they're trying to fix issues literally one by one.

Quote from: Saisher on August 22, 2019, 09:26:31 PM

And Yobit should recognize the group if they want to get an accurate answer does OP have direct contact with support.

The group was made by me along with their approval.

The second image was a confirmation that I'm speaking with the higher up person, I also doubt it at first

I will just keep it a secret of whom I'm talking to right now.

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I wish you tons of luck, OP! Not only because you are extending a helping hand but because you are faced not just with a herculean task but an impossible one.

You must be aware that the problems regarding YoBit are countless as they are varied.
How could you act as a bridge when you do not have direct access to them?
If you are not in any way connected to them, I cannot imagine how you could possibly let them lend an ear to you when they simply rejected hundreds of it on a daily basis.
In general, the problem with YoBit looks like the entire YoBit itself. In which case, you might find yourself inutile.
It would also help if you drop a little information as to how you could possibly be of significant help to the victims of YoBit's shady behavior for years. Devoid of any hint, your initiative also appears shady.

Again, you must be one good soul, I wish you all the luck in the world!

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Quote from: LTU_btc on August 22, 2019, 07:08:23 PM

Interesting. I have no idea how you you can solve these issues without being part of Yobit team. But as I understand, you're not going to post it in public. But I'm not sure why exactly you're doing this. As I see Yobit are still doing shady things like listing fake coins, making fake IEO's and etc. It seems that they just don't care about their reputation. And there is no signs that they're going to stop this soon. So, I'm not sure how you can return your reputation back to normal.
But if there is no hidden things, and you will offer effective help to people who got scammed by Yobit, it will be very positive thing. Good luck!

The only way OP can help us is if he has direct contact with support and Yobit support trust them to give accurate and fast response to all the inquiries, Yobit support is very slow to the point they ignore a communication, you can use their channel, but you need funds to use that and they don't answer sometimes on chat.

And Yobit should recognize the group if they want to get an accurate answer does OP have direct contact with support.

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Interesting. I have no idea how you you can solve these issues without being part of Yobit team. But as I understand, you're not going to post it in public. But I'm not sure why exactly you're doing this. As I see Yobit are still doing shady things like listing fake coins, making fake IEO's and etc. It seems that they just don't care about their reputation. And there is no signs that they're going to stop this soon. So, I'm not sure how you can return your reputation back to normal.
But if there is no hidden things, and you will offer effective help to people who got scammed by Yobit, it will be very positive thing. Good luck!

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OP, I don't know exactly what you're doing here, but good luck trying to rectify any of Yobit's issues with their customers. They obviously can't be bothered themselves, which has always had me perplexed. They've got to be making a ton of money running their exchange, and I can't imagine there are lots of people behind the scenes sharing the wealth--they really ought to hire some dedicated customer service reps, which would go a long way in improving their reputation.

They have a decent exchange and they've been in business for quite a while, but the problem is obviously that they've driven a lot of customers away by not taking care of them when issues arise. Now it's to the point where the Yobit name is synonymous with "shady". I'm not sure how or why they've let it get so out of hand.

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 22, 2019, 05:00:32 PM

Let YoBit do their job. They already have their customer support.

I agree with the first sentence, but they really don't have any customer support. As I said, that's their main issue.

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I agree with @Palmodar. You're putting yourself in a very risky position.
this is not about the accidental mistake by trusted service. It is about Yobit, who consciously do fraud activity. Also, they did not show much concern for their reputation here.
the best we can do is to warn new people about a possible scam.

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To ALL,

I understand your concern towards me, but I'm not the type of giving false hope

I wouldn't ask anything except for the trust. Just this time, once again.

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