Topic: Yobit campaign participants and supporters (Read 2687 times)

TBH, I start to get the feeling that wolwoo is connected to yobit;  as in physically.

I would need to spend a LOT of time going back through the conversations, and deeper into his surrounding the sig campaign wonkyness.....  but i'm starting to get that gut feeling now.

Just a gut feeling;  I dont need the whole forum going up in arms about a feeling;  this isn't US politics.



Vispilio;  one more wrong set of words and he also will be one of the countable on one hand people that are on my ban/ignore list.....   Lots of red flags stacking up.   No gigantic ones like Wolwoo... but people are bad at keeping secrets hidden.

If hacker1001101001 says lemon is yellow, please double check it it might be green.
I have no clue what else this can be:


Defamation attempt?

Creating unnecessary drama again? What was the reason?

Wait, you noticed color but you didn't read anything and you made assumption and felt free to post it? Now where have I recently already heard this?  

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For outside readers, hacker is "reformed" ICO bumping lying account who was payed to post fake reviews, owners of such accounts almost never use only one account for their bumping fraudulent business, especially when they claim to be invited by bumping service to this forum. Story must be much deeper than just randomly attacking some users here, for example, JollyGood tagged too many ICO bumping accounts. It is very simple math AKA 1+1.

Under any circumstances, do not take any advice or suggestions coming from this account seriously, especially not in this thread.

Account wolwoo on the other hand shilled and continued to shill for scam coin after it was pointed several times it is scam, which is only partially documented in reference link, not to mention his daily rants since it was pointed to him that scammer ended up in Default Trust because of him, and not to mention some other rants, calling people criminals, declaring war to everyone etc etc.

Account Vispilio's behavior is very well documented inside this topic, this thread and in some other threads.

These users are highly misleading readers who have no clue what is going on around here.

Well you could have concluded the following but did not:


Any and all allegation/confusion/question/issue about tagging users based on signatures alone was covered in that post so why you behaved in a highly duplicitous manner then play ignorant is known only to you.

Your justification or rationale for perpetuating the lie is bordering on the ridiculous as far as excuses are concerned especially after it was pointed out that you were wrong. Your excuses do not wash with me and all I see is you clutching at straws.

Had you at least acknowledged your error and not perpetuated the lie any further it would have shown you in a better light but what you selectively quoted and why you selectively quoted it and why you then deliberately built your fantasy around it are opposite polars of the actual tag:

I was not lying, I understood your tag was not based on promoting YoBit but overall judgement of the user. That was mostly because he started to create an army of YoBit promotors to fight against red tagging them as per I see. But your trust rating still contains promoting YoBit as one of the reason of him being untrustworthy which is totally false hence was my above comment.


Again, I was not lying, your feedback still stands hence my argument, you thought adding that statement about promoting things for pennies doesn't makes difference, I think it makes.




Because that is realted, and I wanted to avoid making it as an trust system usage issue there. You are an DT and there should be some solid danger of scamming or loosing funds mostly indicated by DT tags. Which doesn't seems the case here.



I mean, that there are some vaild explainations behind some participants promoting YoBit through there signature hence one can't judge users judgement from it overall.

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I am out, I was not upto accusing JollyGood of anything, above was just an advice from me regarding use of trust system, but it's everyone's own opinion.

Most users here would be grateful that Yobit is being highlighted again and this time thanks to their investbox scam they might have overstepped the mark which finally might bring in law enforcement agents resulting the collapse and shutting down of its business. Not everybody would share that view but a brief look at posting history from certain supporters displaying Yobit banners you would find several who know what they are doing is wrong but still do it for the sake of pocketing pennies in cash.




Thank you for your support The Pharmacist. I have only just started looking in to Yobit to see how they function but it the sort of posts made by JaredKaragen, suchmoon and o_e_l_e_o as well as others that make this a matter worth pursuing and trying to warn off as many users or potential victims as possible. Here is a thread that is just one example of how Yobit is being discussed by more and more users: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yobit-scammers-here-is-the-email-bait-used-for-scamming-users-5217581

Just for the record, I have no problem with users that display a Yobit banner or participate in their campaign. Only the those displaying the Yobit banners know if they are doing it because they know it is a scam or if they are doing it because they believe it is not a scam.

I have only ever left negative trust for the Yobit user account because Yobit is a scam and just for the OP because he is a highly aggressive, highly volatile individual who I would never trust - he happens to have a Yobit banner and he was using profanities when he realised he was no longer DT and when he realised he failed in his attempt at becoming Merit Source and during the course of excessively defending Yobit by attacking others that raised either questions or concerns, therefore I tagged him. It was other users that left either negative or neutral feedback for as many users displaying Yobit banners as they could find.

I'm no fan of nanny states and I believe in people having as much freedom as possible, but newbies (especially) can and definitely do get scammed when they're not warned about things.  And I've no doubt that many intelligent folks don't have a problem with Yobit, and they've always worked just fine for me but some of the things they've done are extremely sketchy and I do think it's appropriate that some members here want to warn others of possibly impending danger.

For one thing, they've had numerous scam accusations leveled against them over the years and their customer service department seems to be non-existent.  That isn't the way a crypto exchange ought to operate.  It's not how any company that deals with customers' money should operate. 

Yobit is also far from transparent in terms of who they are and where they're incorporated (if they are at all).  That makes it possible to easily pull off an exit scam if they chose to do so, and it's certainly a warning sign.  And the most recent thing that's sketchy is that investbox function, which has all the markings of a Ponzi scheme.  I'm not even convinced it's all it's cracked up to be, since most of those coins are worthless to begin with, aren't liquid, and can't be withdrawn from Yobit.

TL;DR I have no problem with JollyGood crusading against Yobit and its signature campaigners.  Don't take it personally if you're in the campaign, as it doesn't mean you're a shitposter.  There are actually some really good members in the Yobit campaign at the moment since Yahoo62278 is managing it. 

Here is the part that confuses me. So if you knew what I wrote why did you repeat the same lie above in this thread and say I tagged a user because of the signature they displayed and promoted when you knew it was a false accusation?



Thank you for appreciating my explanation about not tagging the user solely because he displayed a particular banner but for some inexplicable reason you repeated the false accusation in this thread even though have admitted you were aware that what you were posting was in fact a lie.

Here is my reply to your original post: hacker1001101001 I am sorry to say I am somewhat disappointed with the content of the post you made because you incorrectly stated that I and gave red trust to the OP for the sole reason because he ran a particular signature campaign: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53513158

Going by what I wrote in that post I will repeat most it here. I am very disappointed with the content of your post in this thread because you repeated an earlier false accusation you made in a different thread which I already pointed out to you to be factually incorrect yet you continue to perpetuate the same lie even though you stated you knew it was a lie.

Could you please elaborate as to why you repeated a false accusation in this thread with full knowledge that what you were posting was a lie?



Now this is a very strange and unexpected statement for you to make but I welcome it.

The two most important comments I can make in response about this are that firstly if my tagging the user on the basis that I provided in the actual tag was not to your liking then you could or should have mentioned it in the post you made in the now locked thread but you made no mention of it. Kindly explain why you did not mention it beforehand but are mentioning it now because this seems like : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53513158

The second comment from me is that you are entitled to your opinion, everybody is entitled to their opinion. If you think I should have left neutral trust or excluded the user from my trust list then that is your opinion. I have my own opinion, I am entitled to it and I stand by it. I (for one) would absolutely would not trust that and would advise all others to not trust him user therefore I left feedback based on my opinion of him not because of the signature campaign he participates in.

Furthermore, the statement you made above about expressing your view as to what I should or should not have done was not expressed in the original post in the now locked thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53513158) so this a new opinion you are expressing here to justify why you posted the false accusation in the original post in the first place and then repeated here but the justification you provided just does not correlate.

Could you kindly explain why you would not mention this in the original post in the locked thread but are citing it now as a reason/justification for the contents of that original post?



I am sorry but I have no idea what that means apart from when you stated the Yobit promotion being unethical. I read it a few times but could not understand the rest. If you can rephrase it and post again with better grammar I might be able to add a comment or the very least understand it. Thank you.

I have had their sig years back.   There is plenty of post history of my being very real and factually objective on my stance in all of it when it came to past scam accusations and the like.

Once I realized how crooked yobit truly was by seeing actual data first hand;  I never looked back as there is no way to continue anything linked to them in good conscience.

I was aware of your post, the thread was locked just the next day hence lost the track there. I appreciate your explaintaion there about not tagging wolwoo for the sole reason of promoting YoBit but more likely I even disagree with the rest of your comment as it not being something high risk to trade with that user hence it could have even been stated with a neutral tag too or just by using the exact feature made to show your disagreement with somesons judgement : Trust List exclusion.

I am even not willing to slide with YoBit promotors, as I don't feel promotion it is ethical in itself but still there are some vaild and acceptable explanations behind doing so.

I don't have a problem with Turkish users, nice try making it about nationality again. A great example of flawed judgment exhibited by a yet another DT1 member.

I have a problem with you playing that card, as well as with idiots in general getting into DT1 so I will point that out whether you like it or not.

The post you refer to is here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53507078

The reply I made is posted here. I replied stating why you were wrong about the accusation because I did not tag any user because they displayed a particular signature. I asked for your views on that same post here but you did not reply:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53513158

You asked marlboroza and myself to "reconsider" but I corrected you because you were wrong by stating I tagged a user for their signature alone. After I corrected your error, you did not post back to me.

Another thing you missed, in the link above I also stated that I disagree with tagging users on the basis of them showing a particular banner such as in the case of another user who did it to those showing Yobit banners but for some reason you did not post back accepting that fact.

Great points, thanks. Also to answer Jared's question, this JollyGood NPC is being employed as a useful idiot (not meant as an insult, it's a term used in subversion tactics ) to add thousands of people to his distrust list, and giving frivolous red ratings based on his childish personal opinions despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, and because it suits the agendas of a few deeply entrenched members in the DT system, this "politically correct" liberal fascistic mentality is being actively supported.

if 2-3 more NPC's like him are used to downvote and neg trust all the dissenting voices in the forum, then the Trust System completely falls apart, gets owned by a few people who are all the time backscratching / highfiving each other in their limited echochamber safe space...

If theymos and staff want a decentralized trust / voting / representation system in the forum, he should put a check on the rise of "useful trolls" like JollyGood and TimePleb, maybe bring a cap to how many people they can have on their distrust list at any given time, blacklist people from the DT system who have a recurring habit of making factual errors in their judgement, etc...

It could be more like an advice !

I agree with Vispilio about many educated and intelligent people's still thinking, Yobit as at least levels a decent exchange. ( It could be because they personally never had a problem operating on it ).  It doesn't seem right to tag participants of the campaign right away and I have already said the same to JollyGood. No one criticized him or something as no doubt he is doing all this as good for the community overall and to curbe the promotion of shitcoins around. But just judging around based on signatures and using trust ratings is not a good option to let people know about it.

Please don't involve me in your little DT games, it's extremely boring. If you have a problem / extreme butthurt with Turkish users gaining representation,

take it up with theymos instead of employing NPC trolls to do your dirty work like your newly anointed zealous thrall JollyGood above... Good Luck

Your lack of self-awareness is indeed quite comical. You're posting these massive walls of ignorant tripe just because someone disagreed with you or - gasp - distrusted your on some forum on the internet.

I did not read the post you replied to because I have that user on IGNORE along with a handful of his comrades that tried to push through their DT1 and Merit Source agenda but got a massive rejection from the community.

When I read your post I decided to unIGNORE him just to find out what prompted a response from you and after reading only a few sentences I re-added him back to my IGNORE list because I realised the low quality of the post was nothing more than a disgruntled individual who is simply not articulate enough to compose and express himself after his unflinching (and highly questionable) support for the OP was not enough to get their plans through after several users raised concerns.

Not that I recall reading any posts of significance from him anyway but just for argument sake to give the benefit of the doubt, I would cite at the time of making the post he was probably incapable of articulating anything of substance, instead expressing frustration after the collected failure of himself and his comrades in their plans to elevate and promote the OP to DT1 and Merit Source fell through - which incidentally re-enforced the reasons why I had to add him to my IGNORE list in the first place.

what was the point of your post other than denigration?

Jollygood I assure you the man who has to resort to pseudo psycho-analysis and ad hominems ridiculously presented as medical diagnoses against anyone who disagrees with him is very likely to have some serious issues of his own that he needs to figure out before prescribing anything...

My friends tell me you added over 1000+ people to your distrust list, isn't that insane ?.. You must be really hating this forum and have a tremendous amount of leisure time on your hands to go through thousands of profiles to distrust.

I believe the crypto space consists of very intelligent people and they don't need self-appointed avengers like you to give them your prepubescent spin on anything. In fact most people I know suspect that you are yet another useful troll used by entrenched veteran members to assist them in their DT drama games...

You can add the entire world to your distrust list if you like, it won't influence the fact that most rational people will continue to find your opinions extremely limited and one dimensional...

It's tragi-comical how some people's entire sense of self and dignity seem to rest on anonymous internet users agreeing with them.

My advice to you, since you seem to need it desperately, find some beneficial hobbies, get a life, and accept the fact that there are thousands of educated, intelligent and well-balanced people that consider Yobit a legit exchange for most of its functionalities, and I hope this reality doesn't cause a heart attack in your snowflake world, but it's just the way it is.

Hee hee
Feedback is just legitimate to you
Merit is only yours
DT1 is yours
We scammers, parasites attracting hits to the site, will kneel in front of you and beg!!! 😑
I knew the Russians were nationalistic, but they wiped my topic. There is no one on the whole site who can oppose you, unfortunately!

As mentioned, I have the OP and his buddies on IGNORE so thankfully I can skip past his spewing and their staunch defending of him.

The OP posted in my rank up thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jollygood-an-amazing-journey-becoming-hero-member-rank-on-1st-january-2020-5214170) calling me "reputation assassin" and flooded the post by copying/pasting some of my feedback. That post is still there.

He then posted again in the same thread, this time copying/pasting a post of his from his inbox that was deleted in another thread (self-moderated by another user) and for no valid reason, then he decided to simply added the words "answer me you bastard" directed at me. I cannot recall how many exclamation marks he added in an attempt to express his sentiments but thankfully that post was deleted by moderators shortly after it was posted. I have no idea when he posted it when it was an unrelated thread and the original post was deleted in the self-moderated thread by its creator.

In short, I have always given the benefit of any doubt to those users that do not use English as a first language but I cannot recall encountering a user with his absurd and very warped personality along with lack of communication skills and an oversized ego because of unerlying narcissistic tendencies.

Though I say that, I too agree with you there is no reason to believe the OP is a scammer as such but looking at the forum with so many users promoting Yobit signatures does not mean it is not a scam and he has decided to (as you rightly stated) put his ethics above his income.