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Quote from: yoonie on October 16, 2023, 06:51:25 AM

This would mean that the address YoMix used too give me funds immedietly got detected as being connected to terrorism financing. It's well beyond me how a "bitcoin mixer's" developers could be so incompetent.
So I guess thanks YoMix for putting me on an FBI watchlist. Be warned anyone. If it's so easy for an exchange to detect a bitcoin "mixer" it sure as hell means that it's not an actual mixer.

AFAIK, the message given to you by uphold is the typical description when user caught using mixer to deposit on their platform. You check their ToS if they forbid the use of mixer to deposit since some centralized services that usually involves fiat as main currency is very strict on mixers. We have centralized service too in my country that doesn’t allowed funds coming from gambling, mixer and other platform which can be use to launder except exchange.

There’s no way to filter out Bitcoin that being watch by FBI since there’s no such sign like that to determine tainted Bitcoin unless you knew the watchlist of FBI.

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Quote from: yoonie on October 16, 2023, 06:51:25 AM

So I guess thanks YoMix for putting me on an FBI watchlist. Be warned anyone. If it's so easy for an exchange to detect a bitcoin "mixer" it sure as hell means that it's not an actual mixer.

When you are using mixers you need to be creative. I think it's depend on individual experience level. Personally I will not give up my strategy and want someone else to adopt it to make it became common. I use mixers a lot even in the recent time I used one of the mixer [not calling the name for obvious reason] that is advertising on the forum. Thankfully I never had any such experience.

Besides when there are no information given to show/prove the validity of the reason they gave, it's hard to make a conclusion too.

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When the ChipMixer was seized by the FBI^[1], there were many chips that were withdrawn before and were later deposited in the exchanges, and we did not hear from anyone complaining about problems related to depositing those funds. Note that the chipmixer was seized by the FBI, which is something that did not happen with YoMix.

you should ask Uphold account about the reason for freezing the account and tell them about the source of the funds, as the account may have been closed by mistake or for any reason.
In general, if another member complained about depositing YoMIX to the Uphold account and it was closed for the same reason, here we can say that there is a problem with the mixer.

Do you have any link to @brace the mace ?

[1] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-investigation-leads-takedown-darknet-cryptocurrency-mixer-processed-over-3#:~:text=The%20operation%20involved%20U.S.%20federal,than%20%2446%20million%20in%20cryptocurrency

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Quote from: yoonie on October 16, 2023, 06:51:25 AM

This would mean that the address YoMix used too give me funds immedietly got detected as being connected to terrorism financing. It's well beyond me how a "bitcoin mixer's" developers could be so incompetent.
So I guess thanks YoMix for putting me on an FBI watchlist. Be warned anyone. If it's so easy for an exchange to detect a bitcoin "mixer" it sure as hell means that it's not an actual mixer.

I read the email, and it did not says anywhere that the amount is being funded from some terrorism account. I assume you are new to mixers, as you already said in your post, and then you should know that, many CEXs don't accept payments from mixers. You have to understand that if CEXs are positive terminal then Mixers are negative terminals. Means they are opposite to each other.

They are both against each other purposes. CEXs shows your identity and ask it and will share it with feds while Mixers don't do that, at least it is what they say.

Quote from: Jawhead999 on October 16, 2023, 08:04:34 AM

@OP I'm sorry to say this, but it's really stupid if you link mixed coins to centralized exchange because centralized exchange will never want to accept sources from a mixer. Even you send your mixed coins to your non custodial wallet before you send to the centralized exchange, it will not remove anything since it's called as "concealing a transaction".

So if you want to mix your coins, you must cash out through no KYC P2P, direct P2P or DEX.

I was going to say the same, and I thought OP might know it, and did the whole thing on purpose, but I can not conclude until I know the whole story and It is not something new, few days ago, some member was trying to say the same, that yomix is a product of Cops, haha, I mean, really, if it then provides some proofs, all they are coming with, these useless statements.

Well, lets see, what comes next.

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@OP I'm sorry to say this, but it's really stupid if you link mixed coins to centralized exchange because centralized exchange will never want to accept sources from a mixer. Even you send your mixed coins to your non custodial wallet before you send to the centralized exchange, it will not remove anything since it's called as "concealing a transaction".

So if you want to mix your coins, you must cash out through no KYC P2P, direct P2P or DEX.

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Quote from: yoonie on October 16, 2023, 06:51:25 AM

I recently did an in person transaction and got paid in BTC. Honestly it wasn't anything shady but who knows where these coins were previously... So I thought to use a mixer before cashing out. I have an Uphold account for many many years and never had any issues, so I just mixed my coins with YoMix and deposited there. This was my first transaction I did in Uphold since 3 years ago and in the very next day I get this email. No other transactions were done in the meantime so it's certain this is related to YoMix.

This would mean that the address YoMix used too give me funds immedietly got detected as being connected to terrorism financing. It's well beyond me how a "bitcoin mixer's" developers could be so incompetent.
So I guess thanks YoMix for putting me on an FBI watchlist. Be warned anyone. If it's so easy for an exchange to detect a bitcoin "mixer" it sure as hell means that it's not an actual mixer.

Is it meaningless to try to explain them that you just exchanged your coins and you have no idea that your bitcoins are tagged? How can you know whether incoming coins have gone through something bad? This is something beyond your capabilities. Maybe their system did a false positive? How can they be so sure that your coins are bad?

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Please be informed that due to privacy and confidentiality laws, we'll not be able to provide further information on our decision.

This doesn't make any sense. Anybody can claim that your coins are bad without any reason and tell you they can't show you proofs because of confidentiality laws.

Btw, did you choose max mixing level on yomix? Did you enable random amount of transactions with high service fee and some hours of transfer delay? This would increase your anonimity.

Btw mixtum.io claims to send you coins from exchanges that make you not to worry about bad funds. Mixero.io uses monero bridge and logically should offer you high anonimity. There is also a cryptomixer.io that has been on market for centuries with proven reserves of more than 2000 bitcoins and I haven't heard anyone saying bad about them.

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I recently did an in person transaction and got paid in BTC. Honestly it wasn't anything shady but who knows where these coins were previously... So I thought to use a mixer before cashing out. I have an Uphold account for many many years and never had any issues, so I just mixed my coins with YoMix and deposited there. This was my first transaction I did in Uphold since 3 years ago and in the very next day I get this email. No other transactions were done in the meantime so it's certain this is related to YoMix.
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This would mean that the address YoMix used too give me funds immedietly got detected as being connected to terrorism financing. It's well beyond me how a "bitcoin mixer's" developers could be so incompetent.
So I guess thanks YoMix for putting me on an FBI watchlist. Be warned anyone. If it's so easy for an exchange to detect a bitcoin "mixer" it sure as hell means that it's not an actual mixer.

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