Topic: You can not win if you do not risk - page 10. (Read 2207 times)

The risk of losing the money you bet is definitely the same as losing in gambling. This cannot be avoided with certainty, because that is the rule in gambling. The gambling that is carried out is expected to be done with money that is ready to be lost, because the risk of losing in gambling cannot be avoided, let alone eliminated. and the amount of risk that will occur depends on the amount of the bet, the higher the bet, the greater the risk, but no one knows about luck maybe everything can turn around instantly, but don't expect too much that winning will be easy to get.

It's clear that in gambling, in my opinion, it's not right to just hope for a win, because the chance of winning in gambling is very slim and different from the big chance of losing,  so if you only think about winning, in my opinion that's the wrong thing, because it's impossible to win easily.  You also have to accept the reality of losses that inevitably occur in gambling.

While there are free bets but that usually comes with requirements for betting first with some certain amounts. So, technically, you'll still be able to bet with some money before you avail those free bets and that's the real thing in gambling. Wherein, you'll never be able to gamble freely and you need to gamble with your actual money even if you get those free spins, free bets that comes from promo. All of those still will require your money to be at stake and this is gambling, you risk your money, you potentially can win some of it.

How can you even win in return if you don't risk your money?

I don't know what you are trying to imply here but obviously "once you stake something, it's now at risk". I'm confused or maybe you can correct me. I even refer to prior words and statements but still, what you said is already an obvious one.

I thought the topic was all about, the more the risks, the higher the possible return.

Of course how could you play if you wouldn't risk?
Gambling is all about risk, if there is no risk then it wouldn't be called gambling.
Gambling help me to enjoy some time when playing, giving me thrill and excitement but sometimes those thrill and excitement of course comes with a price.

Of course, under any circumstances, if we want something, it certainly has its own risks, but the problem with gambling is, what risks will we take and what is our main goal in taking these risks? In my opinion, gambling doesn't require taking big risks.

It is only really necessary to face risks when we have mastered the majority of the investment process as well as divided solutions to reduce losses, this can be called our expertise and qualifications at that particular time and problem, and life will not ask us to follow what we do not know nor to invest in a place where there is no great difference in results. To be willing to accept risks, the prerequisite is knowing the possibility of winning as well as looking at the results of the crowd, the crowd that pointed out the impossibility of this path and we still accepted it was just a suicidal soldier and not really ready for victory.

I would just say it's stupid if it's only related to some things like gambling that you said, I think everyone has a different point of view on what "risk" means, there are some of them who say that risk is when we gamble with an amount that we can't afford at the end of the session when we lose, And in my opinion, gambling is an activity that involves risk even if you only put a small amount that you can be responsible for, but the fact is that "losing" money can also be called a risk even with a small amount, and in conclusion gambling is a risk-taking activity that has a certain level in terms of the amount of risk taking and everyone has the freedom to choose how much money they can afford to put there.

So the bottom line is that gambling is an activity that involves risk and when you are wrong in taking risks in the sense of taking a high level of risk by putting large amounts that you cannot be responsible for if you lose in the end then this is what always triggers many problems to come such as addiction. In any case, what is more advisable is to only put a small amount like you did with the $10 you have because with this, your mental and psychological state will not be disturbed.

Business is different from gambling because in business if we dare to take risks, there is something positive we can get. But if you take risks in gambling, you probably won't find anything positive because you can experience a lot of losses, especially since you don't know when you can win when gambling. People tend to use a lot of money to gamble because they hope to win a lot, but they are not ready if they have to experience more and more losses, so many of them experience frustration. And because gambling depends on luck, we have to be careful when playing gambling so that we don't experience many losses when gambling and can also limit the number of losses because after all, it is not worth it if we experience more and more losses. You can bet a lot of money if you are ready for the risk. But if not, you don't need to gamble with much money to avoid losing a lot.

Not really, there are some people use free bet or other promotions that gives them to earn money without need to risk any money. It's true they might spend a lot time in order to meet the minimum requirement, but those people are poor and for them the effort they use are worth for the reward.

This is why almost all casinos forbid multiple accounts usage since they're cheaters.

Ambling is about exploring the unknown. Yes, relying on it for income is like building a cloud house. Not practical, but fanciful. Does practicality have all the fun?

I gamble to spice up life. Its about the excitement, not the money (though winning is nice). Moderation is crucial. Eat enough to enjoy a tasty pizza without becoming sick. A slice or two to enjoy. Thats how I view gambling - an adventure on life's pizza.

Gambling requires balance. Im happy with losing my tiny "adventure fund" and enjoying any wins. Its about enjoying the ride, not getting rich quick. Take risks - just make sure you can laugh about them later. Life's too short not to.

No, you are the one that is absolutely wrong. If I earn $1000 and use $10 to gamble, that is not risk. This is an amount of money that I can give someone and forget that I gave it to someone. That is not risk but I just want to have fun. That is just 1% of the amount that I am earning. If you are talking about risk, you should talk about something that is importantly earning you money, like the risk you take to earn money from your business, or the risk you take to invest on an bitcoin and other commodities. If you are not planing to earn from something and using such low amount of money to enjoy yourself to have fun, that is not risk. Know that this is a gambling section, why are people talking about risk in gambling? That is bad and nearly all people that are looking for money through gambling lose more than win.

Bro, you are wrong. You are using a different school of thought which doesn't relate at all with this subject matter. A risk is a risk, whether big or small, or whether you can afford to lose it or not. So long as it is not what you are certain about that you are betting for, you are taking a risk, my brother. Affordability doesn't eliminate risk, you are only reasonable, calculative and managerial in that regard of limiting the risk, which is also what is advised for those who want to be a responsible gambler.

But in your case, you are actually referring to the psychology of the betting, it doesn't relate to risk, nonetheless, you are taking a risk as that is not an automatic way you will earn, but rather a possibility that you can win or lose through it but still commit the money (risk). Anyone who is gaming without anything monetary is involvements are those you can be telling that. Perhaps you might even tell some people that you will compensate them if they win you, but that is a different ball game. However, by natural principle, if you bet through a casino or sportsbook, even if it is a $0.00000001 wager, you actually took a risk on the money and there is no amount of explanation that can change that unless you know within yourself that you are only giving the casino that money for free.

I think that's true, and in fact it is, when you don't take risks you won't win, but that thinking is incomplete in my opinion, I think that people who are silent are sure to lose compared to people who take risks they have two possibilities, namely losing or winning.

But the concern is when people cannot manage their own risks that must be balanced with their finances and themselves in managing their finances and personal, and that is usually a bad impact, which makes a person in a difficult situation because he does not understand the risk profile that can be overcome.

The gambling industry won't help you unless you bet there, and the gambling industry will help you when you bet. A place where you can never win if you don't bet, and you will regret until you win, and where you will be addicted to gambling. People who constantly bet high amount never win high amount, but mostly they lose. A person can win by gambling a few times in a big week without gambling constantly. And gambling is a risky project where you have to accept that you can always lose your money, but it is also certain that you won't make money without taking risks. Only when you take a risk in gambling will you have a chance to win the bet.

Agreed, one can not make profits when he's not taking risks, in business there are high risk takers and those people can not get anything positive in their business if they don't involve capital, just like investing, you can not invest when you don't include capital to it.
And the worst part is many of us want quick profits that's why we end up getting huge losses because we can not wait for the perfect time.
Risking money on something can either bring 2 things 1 profits, 2 lose.
When risk we always put our hope on it but the biggest problems are some of us put all hope on it and that makes it very bad.
Gambling depends on luck as you can not win when you don't have luck, so even with your perfect predictions it will only allow the games to continue from 1 to 10 and the last one will cut it off from winning because luck is not involved in the games.

I think the exact situation you are explaining here actually has something to do with capital management because calculating possible risk possibilities and using the budget effectively accordingly actually means capital management. For example, using a budget of 5,000 units for a sports bet with odds of 1.01 and using a budget of 0.5 units for a sports bet with odds of 100 will result in the same profit at the end of the day. The most important point here is to use a high amount of budget to evaluate a low-rate possibility and this is actually related to budget management. Moreover, according to the example here if both possibilities don't come true, there will be a loss of 5,000 units with one bet and 0.5 units with the other bet. So, as I mentioned you are talking about capital management in conjunction with risk management.


Of course, the probability of the weak team winning this match and naturally the probability of betting on this team to win is quite low but in such a case I don't think that any gambler would use his/her entire budget or a large part of his/her budget in favor of this team. For example, let's say a 20 odd bet is placed on the weak team. Someone with a budget of 100 units will definitely not use more than 10% of their budget for this option. This means earning more profit by taking high risks with a low budget.

For example, let's say there is a match between Barcelona and a third division team and the odds are 1.02 for Barcelona and 25 for the opposing team. In this case, you would choose to bet 5,000 units on Barcelona to get a profit of 100 units while a bet of 4 units on the other team would be sufficient. So, using a much higher risk and a much lower budget will also help increase the potential profit.


Certainly, especially in sports betting the possibility of potential winnings increases by choosing teams with low odds and high popularity and such options generally make the gambler feel that he/she is gambling more safely. Of course, there is never a certain outcome in gambling and therefore there is no guarantee of winning but profit can be targeted by minimizing potential risks with the choices made.

When a gambler can not risk, he can't win and when a gambler can not risk he can not lose either, the trick of gambling is to always use what you can afford to lose, nothing else matters as a gambler, but people always want the best in a short period of time, and from something uncertain like gambling.

Gambling isn't a fair way of getting source of income, it deals with luck all the time, how can anyone rely on this as their source of income?it makes no sense I believe, that's why having a job secured and giving a small percent to gambling is the safest way to be a gambler.

You can't get far in life without taking risks, and you don't want to be task for not taking risks but do it according to your capacity, don't sleep on gambling like your warm mattress, it's a big risk play, always have that in mind.

Taking risk in some spect of life is stupidity, example is in gambling. Taking risk in gambling is stupidity. Let me say I have $1000 income every week, I can use 1% to gamble which is $10 and I will keep $990. Am I taking risk? No. Why? Because I can afford to lose $10 from the $1000 that I have. That is how gambling should be.

You are right, but this is when you are talking about business and not gambling. Gambling is not worth something to take risk.

Taking risk is the thing, everything in life requires you to take risk before getting the big bag.It is only risk takers that are successful,while those who are afraid to take risk should be ready to live the life of the unsuccessful.Thesame thing in gambling,the odds you believe so much that it's not a risk will end up cutting you,while those risky ones are the ones who will play.If you aren't ready to lose money,then you cannot also recieve money,it is vice versa.
A friend of mine took a risk that involves his lifetime saving to play a game he believed,at then end of the day,he ended up winning that money, and is now leaving an extravagant lifestyle.But if he hadn't taken that risk,life wouldn't have been soft for him.