Topic: You can not win if you do not risk - page 8. (Read 2059 times)

You are right because it is rare that we can get a free bet to bet and have the opportunity to win unless we are diligent enough to participate in contests or events that distribute free bets, so if we want to win, we have to risk something in betting so that there is a chance to make a profit, but we also have to remember that there is also a chance of losing so we have to keep betting the money we have that we can afford to lose not because we think about maintaining the chance of winning so we continue to bet and exceed what we can afford to lose because even if we win later the amount we spend is more than what we get and because we exceed our limits it will make our finances chaotic, and that is what gamblers must avoid if they don't want their gambling to end up ruining their lives because they don't gamble using money they can afford to lose.

Everything will have its own risks, whether it gambling or investing, there will always be risks and also possible results that we will get.
But on the other hand, the risks of gambling and investing are clearly very different because the risks in gambling will be much greater.
In gambling when we lose we will lose total amount of money, whereas in investing when prices fall we will only experience losses, not lose everything.
And if the goal is to make money, investing is the right choice because the risk is not that high and the percentage of money lost can be minimized, but we are not here to invest but to gamble.
And the only best way is to make gambling only place to have fun and entertain ourselves, that way we will be able to accept every risk that occurs.
Maybe victory can come but you won't always be able to have it because gambling is actually place to spend money, not make money.
We have to be aware of everything and be able to truly consider the risks of gambling as just challenge to get the pleasure we want.

There are sometimes activities that don't have a really appealing reward or equal reward for the risk that you're taking, a good example is free climbing, the risk is death and the reward is gratification, solemnity and personal achievement so it's not side by side or equal all the time. I disagree though that the people that are losing lot are the ones that will win big, there's a lot of gamblers that haven't won a jackpot for a really long time although they win small amounts, the rewards that they're getting is just simply too low with the risk that they're taking. Of course, it's true that you can't win if you don't risk something but there are times that the wins aren't worth risking for and it's up to you on how you're going to approach things if you still think that it's still good to risk things or not, be smart when it comes to where you're risking your money or yourself.

Yes, it's true that as a gambler we don't have to take big risks, but we also need to consider the risks we will take, understand that the risk of loss in gambling is always there, so we use it within certain limits with money that is not too big so it doesn't have an impact on things. bad things that we will experience, we definitely don't want to experience big losses, therefore we have to be careful when we want to gamble because with this caution we can understand that gambling is not only about taking big risks but also about gambling responsibly. .

Gambling is different from business, although both have to take risks, but the risks of gambling are much greater, people sometimes push their gambling too much without thinking about the risks because what they hope is that if they win, the profits will also be big, but if they fail to achieve this victory, it will end in regret. Therefore, if you want to take a risk, think about it carefully before you regret it.

Emotional influence on a gambler is a strong factor, how the gambler thinks, take choices, change decisions etc. matters in his gambling activities. If he's a person who find it difficult to take risks, he wouldn't try it anytime in gambling. So, it depends on the type of gambling and how they think the risk is worth taking. If a person who is not good at risks and identifying the right time to make such decision, gets carried away emotionally to indulge in risky gambling. He may not recover from his mistakes, easily. As he has no prior experience regarding such lifestyle emotionally. Hence, it'll affect him emotionally, to begin to think that way and making more mistakes. He could be thinking it's the right thing to do but is definitely arresting himself to gambling addiction. Whatever strategy a gambler chooses to practice he should make sure he masters it. Trying anything without few preinstalled ideas, is not encouraged. Players should try what they have been doing and knows how to get around it. It'll help us to conclude that with regulation any strategy is crucial and preferable.

You are right, the risk taken to lose or increase the money is actually gambling itself and the exact amount used in the bet refers to this. In fact, I think we both explained our views differently from different perspectives because as far as I understand, what you want to explain is the determination of the amount of money to be used in gambling and the risk posed by using that money in gambling as a result of this decision. What I want to explain is that it depends entirely on the preferences within the gambling itself. I would like to give an example other than sports betting;

Let's imagine that there is a wheel game and there are five possibilities in this wheel. Let these possibilities provide a profit of 0%, 25%, 50%, 100% and 500% of the bet amount, respectively. Again, the probability of these possibilities coming is as follows;

0% chance of winning: 35%
25% chance of winning: 30%
50% chance of winning: 25%
100% chance of winning: 8%
500% chance of winning: 2%

Using the example here, let's assume that a gambler bets with 10 units of money. In this scenario, your point is that this gambler gambles away 10 units of his/her money and takes this risk to make a profit. The point I want to explain is that this person can win by dividing his/her entire balance into 5 or 10 different games instead of using it in a single game, considering the 500% chance of winning.

I continue with the point I want to explain;

Let's say this gambler loses all his/her money in a single game with a 0% chance of winning. In this case, he/she took a high risk and aimed for a 500% chance of profit with his/her 10 units of money and took this risk to earn 50 units of money. When the same gambler plays 10 different games with 10 units of money, he/she gets a 0% chance of winning 5 times, a 100% chance of winning 3 times and a 500% chance of winning 2 times. In this case, he/she has ensured the risk of the money he/she risked to spend on gambling through capital management and in return he/she will have 18 units of money.

I hope that with this example I was able to accurately convey the points that we both wanted to explain and to compare our thoughts correctly.

It is obvious that gambling is all about risk and when you don't take risk in gambling you cannot be able to to win in gambling so therefore any investment you are into if you don't take risk and the investment you will be able to end without growth So numbering and investment is all about the risk so I believe that without this measure you cannot be able to win anything, risk is the most thing that makes us to have money because when you don't take risk I don't that you will able to make it, so therefore let us have in mind that taking risk is part of success because you make take risk and you make it through the risk or you lose through risk.

Logically, it's true that the amount you can win depends on the amount you are willing to risk because your winning amount depends on your staked amount, but that doesn't have to be the only case for someone to win because if one is lucky, they might win a very large amount with a small bet while someone who isn't lucky might not win anything even if they are making $50 bets which means he is risking more but winning nothing from it.

So, a gambler needs to understand that the first thing they need to win is luck, and after that, the amount they can win depends on the amount they are using as their base bet, and the base bet needs to be according to one's bankroll and one should only bet what they can afford to lose.

Yes, it is a bit of a funny example and its meaning is actually understood more clearly in Turkish which is my native language but unfortunately when I translate it into English it cannot explain its exact meaning. If we talk about people who are successful in life, I definitely agree with what you say. These people generally have a high risk threshold and take high risks in the right way at the right time. Certainly, not every risk taken has negative consequences and each risk in its own way leads to success one day. Every risk taken at the right time, in the right place and in the right way will undoubtedly help achieve success more easily and success can be achieved more easily by reducing the risk rate with other factors.

True, in gambling risk and reward will always go side by side and no matter how these two things will never be separated because this is gambling in general that we know, yes it is right that the higher the risk, the greater the reward or the higher the tree, the greater the wind. In my opinion all this is nothing more than a choice, if you want to get or prioritize big wins then obviously there is no other way to get it that is only by daring to take a large level of risk and vice versa if indeed their main priority is fun or entertainment then obviously the more advisable is to put a small amount that they can be responsible for.

On the other hand I think it is quite difficult to be able to get a big win if basically the amount they bet is small, as you said earlier that they will be able to get big rewards if they dare to put a large amount of budget, another thing I think I disagree with your idea of gamblers who will get big wins are those who are always dominated by losing, one of the reasons is because gambling runs randomly and there is no certainty that can guarantee you to get a big win someday, I can't be sure and if it's true then maybe they are really lucky or vice versa.

Yes, but there are those who do not understand this, they take risks without understanding at all that this must be handled very carefully and carefully, because any bet with an unjustified risk can put an end to our games. In general, I like to take risks very rarely, only when I see an opportunity in it and have many reasons to do it. I carefully analyze the reasons for taking it upon myself; if there are not enough of them, then I simply will not get involved in it and will wait for the best moment for this, it will definitely come. I know this, so I'm in no hurry. And those who rush to place a bet under the influence of emotions and without analysis will be left without funds, unfortunately, I often see such examples.

Risk and reward goes side by side as that saying says the higher the risk the higher the reward.However this is not for everyone as most people are not keen on risking more than that they can afford to lose and as such these persons are always complaining about how they are never winning big enough.The real winners who win big are the ones losing consistenly for a long period of time until one time they hit it big when they never expect it.

A gambler without an aim is mainly risking his time and money. He'll stop gambling is the money runs out. The risk as stated by Op, is not something a player can engage into with no prior target. One can't just take a risk for no reason. In any venture in life, we ought to take risks. But what is the aim of gamblers who take frequent risks and don't achieve their goal? Risk is to be taken once a while, not all the time. When we are taking risk in gambling, it has to work with our instinct. Personal speaking, when I'm into a game, at some point I'd feel a bit sure of what could be my next outcome, I seize the moment for some risks. Although it doesn't occur to be as I presumed, but sometimes I win some funds out of the risk. Gamblers are meant to have strong observation of the game they are playing. Such that whenever they deem it right to take risk it won't affect their bankroll. Risk should be taken, not often, once a while.

Well, as long as its gambling we are talking about alone, then, truly, if a person does not bet on a game, then there is no way such person would possibly win, for even though in the real world, it is actually possible for one to harvest seeds from a tree he or she did not soar, but in the world of gambling, it's not the same,  it's like a common proverb in my place that, "a river does not swallow a person it didn't see his legs" which simply means that, before one gets drowned in a river, the person will have to walk in, or fall into the river, that is, the river must see the person's legs, either by means of walking into it, or falling into it, then you get drown if you don't know how to swim and not rescuers around.

So, for one to be a winner in gambling, you have to first of all bet, without you betting, there is no possibility of you winning.

There are other casinos that when your wager amount increases, you have chances of free spin, cashback and other privileges that they have and include the free spin. This is probably the reason why other gamblers do not stop gambling and they also chase their losses.

But even if they get the free spin and other bonuses that a casino has, that is still not enough to say that they have recovered what they lost in gambling, but they still lose a lot.

One of the reasons why someone can be said to be reasonable to take considerable risks in things outside of the world of gambling such as business is because there is something that does have certainty to achieve goals and I think it is not uncommon to find many business people who are finally able to achieve their success and it is all the result of their struggle and courage in taking risks and another reason is because you can get a good consistency in terms of income if you succeed in achieving success in your business career and of course these things do not exist in gambling, gambling has absolutely no element of consistency in terms of earning and also does not have any certainty that can guarantee results at the end of the session. Therefore, it is certainly not advisable for anyone to put an unaccountable amount into their gambling involvement because the fear is that it is very possible for them to lose and lose all their money and it is usually situations like this that always make a gambler emotional and act out of control and end up addicted.

Its not all about to take the risk but rather to understand the risk so that we provably know what we are facing and can possibly do some adjustment so that if worst scenario came to us we will not get affected then we could try again our luck for next time around. This one should need to take consideration by those risk taker people since if they don't have clear plans towards things they are participating especially those risky matters for sure they would collapsed and will not enjoy on what they have done on a casino.


Lets assume all of this is all about gambling and we separate business talks since we are in gambling section but people would really be in harmful condition if they don't think what they are doing so aside for taking the risk they should have brains to use so that they can try certain strategy that can help them win. Gambling without any aim or target is not good so people should set something that they think can satisfy them.

Everything in life would really be needing for you to take risks on which you cant really just be able to achieve or attain something without doing such risks on which this isnt really just that limited to gambling alone
but also in other things in life as well on which you would really be needing to take risks for you to be able to have that kind of opportunity to take up something before you could acquire something.
Somehow this kind of idea in mind when it comes on dealing with gambling then this is something that would really be risky and something not really that recommended because once
you do find yourself on such situation or condition then it would really be just make you desperate.

Its not ideal on putting up this idea on gambling because instead on making those kind of steps or actions on which it would really be that making you desperate and this is something
which it isnt recommended because instead on making money you would really be rather making huge losses and  the worst you do become that addicted with it
on which we know are the effects that it could give out.

Even in life you cannot win if you don't gamble this is how risky life is but profitable if you know
how to pursue things and know how to deal with it.
Gambling is like life but this is with much risk , and also this is becoming more risky if you don't
know how to manage controlling your desire as this is the reason why so many people fails and turns
having a miserable life because of wrong treatment in gambling.

It is wrong for gamblers who gamble for entertainment or fun and for gamblers who think that winning and losing are part of gambling. Gamblers are responsible for gambling based on the awareness that losing is the main thing that they will accept and be ready when they encounter a situation of losing money.
Gamblers who play with the hope of winning and are ready to take any risks have become addicts.
Not always or not many beginners on gambling sites get big wins when they play the types of gambling games available.

I experienced it myself and I saw people around me playing at the same time. I lost and they won even though we were both new players on an online gambling site.
It's a myth that still believes that new users will win when they start playing.