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legendary
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January 30, 2014, 05:55:19 PM
#46
Three quick points.
1. Having alts under the official banner of bitcointalk.org adds to the appearance of support/trust/endorsement of bitcoin.  This does add some burden on the mods/admins to have due diligence to protect new comers to the btc scene from their own greed and others scams. Perhaps it is time to yell at the children to 'Get off my lawn!'.

2. I have personally enjoyed the alt scene in the last year. Alts allow folks to get knee deep in the processes that make bitcoin work. This is a learning ground for trying out settings, new ideas that could not be done to the bitcoin network without affecting the network. We have learned what may happen to bitcoin when block subsidy is removed ( zet, ifc, etc).  We have learned how to recover from massive forks. We know what to do with Proof of stake and when it gets out of control how it adds to blockchain and network bloat( cent).  All of these things help Bitcoin in the long run. It allows new devs to take the reigns when Gavin and the others get tired of dealing with the code. This training ground is important to keeping bitcoin from becoming the beast it is destroying with the entrenched dogmas that have pulled the cover over wage slaves lives.

3. Alts that are legit, have merit and a strong following will move on and develop their own community. ( Ripple, Nxt, Emunie, ltc, peercoin etc)  The scamcoins have and will die and serial coindev's will have to be nurtured/lectured until they realize the gain is not worth the damage to themselves and the community.


I thought this was a thoughtful post.  I'd just add that having altcoins on this forum also helps those coins and users because experienced hands here can call bullshit on bogus coins.  I think the crypto community is stronger if we hang together, I don't really understand the altcoin hate.

Following multiple forums is a pain and it is nice having bitcointalk as a nice umbrella forum.  However, it is theymos' forum so it's his rules.  I'm glad that some potential alternate forums are getting attention.
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January 30, 2014, 05:51:36 PM
#45
May the best coin win...  SHA-256 and Scrypt in the long run will be supplanted by the next better algorithm anyways... this is just the tip of the iceberg... all these alts may not even be here in 24 months...
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January 30, 2014, 05:48:58 PM
#44
Let them shut it down, Theymos is Bitcoin Rich enough that he doesn't need the extra hits.  I'd love to just move all the alt coin talk over to Cryptocoin Talk, the guy Jim who runs it is very accommodating.
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sr. member
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January 30, 2014, 05:35:40 PM
#42
You can see the "spirit" of Bitcoin users in threads like this... It makes me sick.

 It was easier for mod/admin to delete and ban all giveaways, then to open a subforum for giveaways and drive more users to forum. Really intelligent move! Good work!

 People WAKE UP. They don't care about anything but Bitcoin.
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 They don't care about the Decentralized Crypto Revolution either.
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 They only care about making a huge score with bitshit.
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 They will do everything in their power to assure Alt. coins are relentlessly diluted, bashed, trashed endlessly, and hamstrung. Right here at bitcointalk.org!!!

 Their acting every bit as terribly as Banksters.

 bitcointalk.org has full Control, total Control, and Power, over  the Alternate cryptocurrencies sub-forum here. And just like those banksters they do it with deceit and cunning actions from the shadows. All they while acting like their doing us all some kind of giant favor. Bullshit. Quite the opposite.

 Why do you think so many clones suddenly appeared out of the blue since last Spring? It sure wasn't us late bloomers whom also finally strolled in last spring to bitcointalk. Nope, it's hard core developers doing what Banksters do; ie Pump & Dump. And there by diluting the pool of alt. currencies into hundreds, and soon thousands of types of Alt. Currencies.

 These same one's even captured and turned the lame-coin founder too. (Litecoin), and got him busy at Coinbase. But we are certain to see no Litecoin traded there either. Just like Mt. Gox. Same story everywhere. Bitcoin freezes out everyone else. And who can really blame them for that. And other stuff. But some of this is absolutely outrageous. And way over the top.

 Now maybe the founder of Litecoin has very good intentions. All I know is that the enemy of Litecoin captured him. And now litecoin, well, the best it has going for it is their https SSL .org site. After all if these are supposed to be secure it's way past time to get them ALL that way. And except for that lamecoin is dead in the water, with nothing happening. And it's the exact same for almost every Alt. Coin.

 In fact I can count only about 6 Alt. coins that truly have their act together. And maybe another 6 that are barely treading water. The rest are dead in the deep end of a cold ocean. With bitcointalk.org in full command and control.

 Funniest of all two of those that have their acts fully together came from out of the blue, and one isn't even on many's radar screens yet.


Back on topic:

 They obstruct, they restrict, they inject FUD, they segregate into the slum called  Alternate cryptocurrencies section which is still a total wreak of disorganization. And it's on purpose people. And they don't want anyone leaving. Not at all. They absolutely want us here, to keep all their competition under their control and command.

 Sure they keep bitch slapping too. But watch them now fast back off. And maybe even let this post stand too. Doesn't matter. It will be posted elsewhere too.

 WAKE UP PEOPLE.

 The worst thing for Alt. Currencies is to allow them to Control and Dominate us here.

 This is terrible for both bitshit and Alt. Currencies.

 And no, I really don't think of bitcoin as bitshit, except at these times. Then I absolutely do, while currently holding a nice stash of them myself I should add since I am not one to deceive anyone!

 I could go on and on and on, but if one just sits back and thinks about it things will quickly fit together. All the way down to the endless FUD, the half truths, the lies, the spin, and the hypocrisy of this untenable situation. Not to mention them 'doing us all a favor here. NOT.

 rip.......

 Yea, well somehow, once again, my Ice Dragon (Firefox based browser) just got reloaded. But not by myself. And there went the rest of this post. I can only wonder how they pull that crap off, and this makes at least a dozen times in the last several months. All with Noscript fully disabling all scripting it still occurs. Forgetaboutthisplacepeople.

 REVOLT PEOPLE.

 Getoutahere!

 Do yourselves and the entire Decentralized Crypto-Currency Revolution a huge favor.


 Otherwise you all might as well surrender to bitshit. I had to sell a ton of Alt. Currencies over the last few months because of this crap. Finally the last pieces of why I had to do just that all fell into order. And I spelled it all out right here and now. So even the most innocent types can see the clear daylight of this untenable situation at hand.

 O boy, they gave in and put up three whole subsections. Hurray. It's still a giant mess, and on purpose. Get real. Get the fuck out of here people. I never use the F word, and I am offended anytime I see it in a title to any thread. That's simply not acceptable. Except here at bitshit central. It's an endless list of no class bs.


 Bitshit, bitshit, bitshit, bitshit...

And I only call it that in the face of ten's of thousands of insults directed from them to Alt. currencies in general.

 They merely have a Model T, with limited range and functions.

 All that they do have is a huge head-start.

 And it wont be 'slow and steady' winning this Crypto-Race, much to the amazement of more than one clueless fool I reviewed recently, both here and elsewhere.

 There was much more, but I am tired of this nonsense. And I wont keep adding on to yet another soon to be whacked post by these filthy jerks here, all while I am still typing this out. Yea, it's not the first time. And yea, they know who has a clue.


 Remember People: They don't care about you. They don't care about alt-currencies. They don't care about Decentralization, nor the Crypto Revolution. All they care about at this point is seemingly themselves.

 Who exactly is who? I don't care. I wont go on any hunts. This dog doesn't care. He has already left the building. And only came back after reading more disinformation, misinformation, and raw sewage.


 So in one day, here is where I will be from here out: Time to give this other forum a real shot in this Crypto-Revolution. https://cryptocointalk.com/ And yes, I can only imagine everyone is more than welcome, as long as they behave a bit better there. With the pun in bit fully intentional!

Adios.

Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware!
sr. member
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January 30, 2014, 04:50:16 PM
#41
Three quick points.
1. Having alts under the official banner of bitcointalk.org adds to the appearance of support/trust/endorsement of bitcoin.  This does add some burden on the mods/admins to have due diligence to protect new comers to the btc scene from their own greed and others scams. Perhaps it is time to yell at the children to 'Get off my lawn!'.

2. I have personally enjoyed the alt scene in the last year. Alts allow folks to get knee deep in the processes that make bitcoin work. This is a learning ground for trying out settings, new ideas that could not be done to the bitcoin network without affecting the network. We have learned what may happen to bitcoin when block subsidy is removed ( zet, ifc, etc).  We have learned how to recover from massive forks. We know what to do with Proof of stake and when it gets out of control how it adds to blockchain and network bloat( cent).  All of these things help Bitcoin in the long run. It allows new devs to take the reigns when Gavin and the others get tired of dealing with the code. This training ground is important to keeping bitcoin from becoming the beast it is destroying with the entrenched dogmas that have pulled the cover over wage slaves lives.

3. Alts that are legit, have merit and a strong following will move on and develop their own community. ( Ripple, Nxt, Emunie, ltc, peercoin etc)  The scamcoins have and will die and serial coindev's will have to be nurtured/lectured until they realize the gain is not worth the damage to themselves and the community.

P.S.
"America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can't just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the "land of the free". "
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112346/quotes

legendary
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January 30, 2014, 12:11:29 PM
#40
A revolt, lol. Some of you guys are blowing this a tad out of proportion.

A Tad? more like WAAAY out of proportion.

We already have solutions here, there is no point for these posts.

1) No giveaway posts allowed, you are however allowed to post the location of the giveaway. This should be done in your main ANN post. Probably best to put it on the first post along with all the other coin info.

2) I dont see any other problems other than scams, and those are called out by us normally.

3) What else? Oh, hurt feelings.. oh my.

full member
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January 30, 2014, 11:55:56 AM
#39
You can see the "spirit" of Bitcoin users in threads like this... It makes me sick.

It was easier for mod/admin to delete and ban all giveaways, then to open a subforum for giveaways and drive more users to forum. Really intelligent move! Good work!
member
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January 30, 2014, 11:36:15 AM
#38
If you hate alt coins you should encourage the growth and popularity if the alt coin boom.

Jballs math: as the number of altcoins approaches infinity, their value will approach zero


The exceptional/innovative coins will find a value. The rest will die.

Has anyone penciled the total coinage projected 12 months out on all altcoins up to say a week ago?

All that said I missed bitcoin aside from maybe being able to work in the related business somewhere. I would not have bought any except for altcoins (vtc only so far because it is innovative), and have probably turned 100 people into bitcoin buyers for the same reason. I tried to buy alts for cash and had to go to btc first.

Gateway drug. Or legit payment processor. Whatever it is in your best interest, stupid as they mostly are, stupid is what mostly is. Let them flourish like the orgy of mayflies they are and they will be nothing but a wiki footnote by fall.

Remember the flooz....
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January 30, 2014, 11:29:04 AM
#37


It is indeed time to shut down this section.

It adds nothing of value.


~BCX~

Dont listen to this retarded troll.

He is not only a troll, but a criminal.

If i went out in the real world and maliciously destroyed common law property, i would be in jail on misdeamor or felony destruction of property charges.  So would that clown also.  He is lucky i don't have more free time on my hands at the moment to query a law enforcement detective and ask a few questions.   I did get screencaps of his posts regarding Gamecoin.


Why would you call me a criminal?

You must have me confused with some one.


~BCX~


Be scared.  Your anonymity over the internet is less guaranteeable than you think.


Provide some proof I am a criminal and exact details on how I have stolen coins from you.

You can't because I am not a criminal.


~BCX~



no but you are a troll dipshit
full member
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January 30, 2014, 11:23:39 AM
#36


It is indeed time to shut down this section.

It adds nothing of value.


~BCX~

Dont listen to this retarded troll.

He is not only a troll, but a criminal.

If i went out in the real world and maliciously destroyed common law property, i would be in jail on misdeamor or felony destruction of property charges.  So would that clown also.  He is lucky i don't have more free time on my hands at the moment to query a law enforcement detective and ask a few questions.   I did get screencaps of his posts regarding Gamecoin.


Why would you call me a criminal?

You must have me confused with some one.


~BCX~

GTFO out of here BCX
No one cares about you
hero member
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January 30, 2014, 11:14:09 AM
#35
I'm new to the whole bitcoin/altcoin scene and the only reason I came to this forum was for the altcoins section and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I keep reading of all these "senior members" complaining about the altcoins but without the altcoins would bitcoin be where it is today? No one knows but I can tell you this without altcoins there wouldnt be as many new people joining the crypto world. From my experience when I first looked into the crypto world I looked into bitcoins and mining and said wow I joined in way to late because to mine bitcoins it's very expensive to get any real amount. Then I read more into it and found altcoins. That's just my opinion.
sr. member
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January 30, 2014, 11:10:13 AM
#34
A revolt, lol. Some of you guys are blowing this a tad out of proportion.

After this I use Litecoin and even Dogecoin while trading when I have the chance. I started doing it when I heard others talking about it.

This will catch on. If people didn't respond to this type of treatment there wouldn't be a bitcoin in the first place.

WHY? Why would you do anything to push people away from bitcoin? You think the Altcoin people don't matter?

It seems that many of these hero members were just in the right place at the right time. That is all.

They cant even see how they are harming themselves and this forum.

Even if I didn't like the weird kid in high school, and didn't know the kid harassing/bullying him, I would step in. Afterwards, I would now hate the kid doing the bullying. The fact that you have no idea what I'm talking about right now will be your demise guys.LOL. Dense, completely dense. Roll Eyes
legendary
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January 30, 2014, 11:06:52 AM
#33


It is indeed time to shut down this section.

It adds nothing of value.


~BCX~

Dont listen to this retarded troll.

He is not only a troll, but a criminal.

If i went out in the real world and maliciously destroyed common law property, i would be in jail on misdeamor or felony destruction of property charges.  So would that clown also.  He is lucky i don't have more free time on my hands at the moment to query a law enforcement detective and ask a few questions.   I did get screencaps of his posts regarding Gamecoin, though.  Watch yourself, "BitcoinEXpress".
full member
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January 30, 2014, 11:04:22 AM
#32


It is indeed time to shut down this section.

It adds nothing of value.


~BCX~

Dont listen to this retarded troll.
legendary
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January 30, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
#31
I hope they do close it. Fuckin crybabies can take their ball and go home
legendary
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January 30, 2014, 11:01:24 AM
#30
A revolt, lol. Some of you guys are blowing this a tad out of proportion.

People love to go straight to politics, drama, and/or outright criminal subterfuge like the poster above me.  It's a damn shame.

I and many others are quite appreciate of the latitude bitcointalk has given to the altcoins and would hope for continued patience in that light.  

To those who support altcoins but are not appreciative of that latitude: take a hike, go build your own forum, or whatever.  
hero member
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January 30, 2014, 10:46:29 AM
#29
Here's a section with altcoins, giveaways, promos, bounties: http://thisweekscoin.com/forum/index.php


Everyone can post, everyone can receive Smiley
sr. member
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January 30, 2014, 10:39:11 AM
#28
If you close the whole forum, not only the altcoin section, you haven even less work, think about it.

Lazy Admins...want to close most active section.... Huh
copper member
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hee-ho.
January 30, 2014, 08:48:56 AM
#27
sure, ban it if you want to decrease this site's traffic..  Tongue
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