Topic: You think I am a scammer? mdayonliner's reputation - page 3. (Read 2457 times)

For what it's worth: I thought it was admirable that you just continued posting, even after you received red trust. Too bad you gave up

+1

A very wise thing to say.

There are several escrow without green trust. For reference you may see Few Trusted Escrow Provider

Negative Trust is something very damaging if you plan to offer some service on the forum. But I think the biggest damage is the social one. I think the feeling must be like a person walking down the street with his pants very dirty, everyone will point fingers, say bad things etc.

And you will have to explain, often to people you've never seen, the reason that those pants are still dirty. Every time, every day.

 The trust system is broken. I understand the attempt to decentralize and leave this responsibility to users. But it is a system without weights, very unfair. The accuser could present evidence and reasons when making the decision to send trust to someone else. But this is not mandatory. That is, the accuser is the judge and no one can reverse the decision. It is not a form of fairness. There is no judgment where an independent third party makes the decision after hearing both parties. But I do not know which system could be better. Since the forum does not want to be directly responsible for the decisions of each user.

Now, in your specific case, I understand what @hilariousetc did. I had not read about it before. He made this decision to alert other users. And it looks like your intention was to sell services on the forum that depended on trust. Maybe you could have worked to avoid the social weight of negative trust. But it does not seem to me that starting to work with loans would be the most rational route to take with a negative trust. And it turned out to be a bad deal seeing the losses you have taken.

Maybe stepping away from the forum for a while might help reverse this negative trust in the future. So I hope, because you contribute a lot to the forum and could eventually help your community to participate and know more about Bitcoin. And answering your question: I do not believe you're a scamer, but if I were to introduce you to a friend to do business, I would also feel compelled to show him the topic from @xtraelv before he could make a decision.

He was tagged even before that signature campaign started and he was accepted into that campaign because he was excellent poster and he was tagged due to the reason of he wanted to offer an escrow the amount which may be excessive for an untrusted person.He didn't create this thread not because of signature campaign tho.

It is sad you got tagged.
 Though I don't know you very much I felt bad for you because it got you off a campaign I guess. I honestly think what our dear Global Mod did was justified. He doesn't abused the tagging thing from my observation.

You should ask for pardon and never go near the escrow thing again and hopefully he forgives you

No it doesn't. It means I don't trust you. When a previous ponzi promoter tries to get his hands on $100k I think that is pretty alarming and I don't trust that behaviour. Had you of been sent that sort of money I think it's highly probable you would have just ran off with it.


So? That doesn't invalidate the act and wipe it from history.

I don't know if you're a scammer or not, my stance on that is dubious. But many people don't trust or like you because they think that you're either trying to kiss some people's ass/ that you're some sort of con artist /ponzi scammer / that escrow offer deal that came out of nowhere.

About hilariousetc's tag : He is trying to protect other users, when people have scammed others for mere cents, 100,000$ is a lot of money, even though it may seem less to others, it's a lot, and no one likes to be scammed. So he's not wrong there.

Do I trust you : No, not because of your history or whatever, but I just don't trust anybody on this forum enough to escrow or even trade with, it'll probably be the last thing for me to do.

People aren't going to give you advice on what to do, some things you got to figure out for yourself. Secondly, it's a forum, your reputation here isn't going to change anything IRL. But you definitely made a HUGE mistake in linking your IRL name and other important details, very BIG mistake. Shit happens, I know, but you should have been careful. That's all I got to say for now.

Why should have previous issue to reply with honest review? Did I create this thread? Your thread subject is " You think I am a scammer?". So everyone is free to reply with his opinion.  I did what I think. I haven't created thread against you. I can see all the replies here are against you, so all of them have previous problem with you? I don't think so.

I didn't bother myself on your others post. I told you that in my previous reply "you are exposing yourself" by creating such as thread. I have noticed, You have created multiple new thread on local board even there is pin post on your language and OP still active. However that's isn't biog deal. But you have made sound on meta multiple time about it. Is it not just you want highlight yourself by doing unnecessary job?  I can't see there is much response from your own community.

Eventually you came out with lending business. I believe your intention was just gain trust. And  I think you are failed to do that.

To be honest, you have tried to gain trust by short cut. I have been exposing multi dozen scam, it doesn't mean I am trusted. There is no reason to trust me with fund. You shouldn't attempt to gain trust. This thread is another attempt to gain trust. Trust will come automatically depend on your activity. There is no short cut to gain it. Also I felt that once I applied for merit source. Its is really too early for me. Also personally I have felt that earn merit, make good post , scam expose and prevent spam are really totally different from trust. I told you your over-smart is responsible your reputation, and still you are doing that. I am not good writer like you, may be that's why you having hard time to understand my point.

Is it not over-smart?  You don't care his tagged so why you need to open this thread and mentioned him?

Even your intention wasn't scam, but "money could change everyone mind" its true.


I have bothered to answer because you have asked , do we have any previous issue? and answer is NO.

100k isn't that much money.  I guess there are a lot of poor people on these forums.  I seems most  all the bitcoin millionaires have left this place for good.

Even being a millionaire isn't considered wealthy these days, that is reserved for billionaires.

The point is that the more the amount means to a given person, the more likely he might be to scam.  It has more to do with your local economy or how much you make than what the actual country is.  A millionaire (in USD) probably wouldn't scam for $1000, but someone living in a homeless shelter with only lint in his pockets might very well be tempted to.

Not sure which country you are talking about coz I live in one country but my native country is another one. Point is - how or why a country is/was relevant?¹

Thinking I am not a scammer or all the bed stuffs about me does not mean that I am asking people to trust me.

Yes it does, and it also means that you try very hard to show your importance on the forum. Your trusts are too cheap for me.

But leaving the feedback means you knew the outcome or technically you guessed the outcome and acted without even bothering the correction I made. I withdraw the offer immediately, I sent you PM about it but you never responded.

After seeing hilariousandco's response, I composed this this message, then updated the thread where I showed my interest then while I was adding the update section (on the bottom) - I noticed the red trust for the first time. So I believe the tag happened at the same time while I was busy writing and withdrawing my interest and updating the threads.

Side note: My email notification for that topic is on. I was online too. So, when I saw the email notification I immediately visited the topic to see the update and then I saw hilariousandco's response. And then without wasting any time I started composing my reply coz I had this feeling that hilariousandco was not happy about it.

Thanks mate for asking me. I appreciate it.