Topic: You think I am a scammer? mdayonliner's reputation - page 2. (Read 2457 times)

The part I bolded I wouldn't argue with and I've probably even said as much about myself in the past.

If the neg on me you're talking about is the one by iluvbitcoins, I'm over that issue and I resolved it from my end (I'm a he, BTW).  One thing I learned early on is that trust ratings and DT status can be fleeting.  I've seen a lot of members go from green to red and a few get booted from DT, including myself the first time I was added to the list.  That's just how it is here, and the more time you spend here the less you'll be surprised when stuff like this happens.

WOW; this thread has made me reflect on a lot of things, as it is I never trusted anyone on this forum and this reinforces my earlier opinion.

BTW I see finally Lauda has red trust and The Pharmacist has yellow; although I am not in general agreement with the Pharmacist and even suspect him to be a blockchain nincompoop; the neg on him/her is in bad taste.

There is nothing questionable in my feedback. Both feedback is true, previous one and new one.
I didn't wake up later, I am always here.
What conversations OMG. You sent me message to check something and I said I can't find anything and you should report it to admin. That can't be called conversation. What other conversation you have in mind? I can't find them in my PM.

Can you please point me several conversations between?

edited - "I can't find anything" was about something else.

That's very much possible, and has happened to me. However, I'm not sure whether OP actually stated that or is talking about a hypothetical scenario.

OK, so you're saying someone else was using your genuine information in a bounty in order to frame you?  I'd be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt if it made sense to me why someone would do that.  In cases like these, it's seems to be always more likely that the person actually is enrolling alt accounts to earn more money.  And how do you explain that you posted the same Twitter link as nguyenthanhhieu did AFTER he'd already posted it?  Had he done this previously?

Can anyone find any more info that would link the accounts in question to mdayonliner?  I'm not a good blockchain detective by any means and not a great detective in general.  

As to the part I bolded above:  if you were to find evidence of something like that happening, I would expect someone to bring it forward and challenge me on it, and I'd expect a neg as a result.  But since I don't participate in bounties (just the Chipmixer campaign), don't use social media, it would be very hard for someone to frame me like that.

There is no doubt that I would like to consider Lafu a friend. We chat occasionally on discord. I neither know his real name and neither does he know mine (although I could easily find out) . I admire him for his knowledge and dedication towards helping others with crypto.  There are others on this forum that I would like to consider friends as well. People of who I don't know their RLI but chat with regularly regarding crypto. I doubt it precludes me from giving merit to them for a deserving post.

But for an exchange to take place there would have had to have been some sort of agreement. There was none. I never discussed merits with Lafu until after you made the allegation. I have no need for an account beyond "JrMember" since I never participate in bounties or signature campaigns. So merit is not important to me.



I was not caught exchanging merit. It was your allegation that I exchanged merit. Your methodology was flawed. I did not exchange merit. When I gave merit there was no expectation of anything in return.


Your involvement in "marketing stuff before joining the forum" was promoting ponzis. Lets call it what it is.

This is where the issue is. You accuse me of lying but you have not identified a single lie. I have offered to change any mistakes in the information.

All the evidence I have presented I have backed up with a source so people can check it themselves and draw their own conclusions.

Now you are trying to insinuate that I would frame you ? Those are just weasel words.

EDIT:
https://archive.fo/6r01l

For me, this is maybe the most concerning things you have said yet, short of offering the escrow deal.

Searching for users who admire you? Trying to build a personal circle of users? It screams of narcissism and complete self-centeredness. You have pretty much just admitted that everything you did on the forum was for your own personal gain and achievement. With every post you made you weren't thinking "Does this contribute to the conversation?" but instead "Will this make more people admire me?"

The real question is why you were so desperate to build a "positive impression" so quickly. You ran your loan service no problem with no trust and even negative trust. You could have bought, sold or traded anything with no trust by using a trusted escrow, as many people do. You could probably even have started escrowing small amounts before long. Many people spend years on the forum with no trust rating but are still looked upon positively by the community. Being so desperate for positive trust makes you look more like a scammer.

Your self admission that "all your focus" was on gaining admirers is scary. Previously, I thought you were probably just naive offering that escrow deal. Now, I'm not so sure.

I would not bother to make another post to say the old stuffs again and again but seems like here xtraelv bought another new dimension to spice up the entire mdayonliner reputation again. You are doing very good job xtraelv since you were caught on exchanging merit with your friend (which later I figured was not intentional). You are mixing truths (I was involved with online marketing stuffs before joining the forum)¹, semi truths^1aa, mistakes where I had no hand and regretted in public numerous times ^1a, innocent mistakes when a system was too new to understand^1b, finding mistakes in regular things^1c and lies very wisely. I wonder how do you find everything all together? I hope you don't plan for them to frame me.

This post is for The Pharmacist:
Remember once you said you admire/respect me out of the few users on this forum? This was a moment of feeling that I will never forget. I was not even aware about my place that much on the forum before this compliment. After that - I looked for comments and looked for users who always admire me and my work. I easily discovered a circle.

When I found the circle I felt responsible. When I felt responsible then I started to think about my best skill to offer the community and I found that helping the community is the one I can do the most. I focused more on helping the community answering the stuffs they are looking for which I know. I never even thought of having ALTs, abusing ALTs comes later. My all focus was to build up a name for me, a positive impression using mdayonliner account so that I find more people who admire me. Who does not want to earn a name for themselves?

I was doing well until the escrow offering ambitious move and that was a mistake which I did not think of that time. The red from hilary was not even stopping me to perform my duty to the community, I was still doing my job. But every time when I found a bad finger pointing on me because of the red trust I felt bad. I even found in my local topic some people are telling me bad things and some other people are defending me, I found members are even thinking that I may sell merit if I become a merit source. All because of the red trust. Having a red trust is a huge burden for a user like me who are not known to a large number of users. I was tired of taking insults from the users who do not know me.

I don't mind having a red trust for offering a large sum (a mistake which I realized the weight later) but I do mind when people say... I am:
- A scammer
- Promoted ponzi on the forum
- A shady character
- A merit abuser
- Don't deal with this guy (me) he is not trustworthy
- Can sell merit if I become a merit source
etc etc. All because of the red trust I have where the red trust was given because I offered a large sum as a escrow but you will clearly see the interpretation of the members are not limited to the original reason. On top of it, marlboroza's questionable(?) red paint. The ponzi promoting topic was created long ago by xtraelv but why marlboroza was silent all those days and woke up far later even the hilary's tag? Why marlboroza wanted to know in PM that when I withdrew the escrow application (before or after the red tag from hilary)? When I responded then why did not marlboroza asked me anything else about it for long time. He was active and we had conversations with several other stuffs in between.

Anyway, back to the ALT and abusing bounty accusation, the new direction from xtraelv, the reason I had to break my rule and had to post another post from this account.

https://twitter.com/cDesignsUK and https://twitter.com/FollowMasudul are my twitter no doubt about it. I have participated few bounties in my entire bitcoinTalk life times but only CREDITS Ambassador Campaign is the one which I started from the beginning and stayed till the end. This was the reason...
I got paid as well for the bounty: https://etherscan.io/tx/0x838f6d0ec680728b5e99267cefc14d73299ff0c88ce7a693a727ee647f3f74c7

Accounts bought into attention are so far...
phantiennghia
nguyenthanhhieu
quangtrung1991

and all used the twitter account: https://twitter.com/cDesignsUK

phantiennghia: A user made 4 posts where one post has bounty submission using my twitter handle
nguyenthanhhieu: A user made 5 posts where one post has bounty submission using my twitter handle.

quangtrung1991: Seems like a typical bounty hunter who posted my twitter username where s/he was suppose to post the Facebook URL. What I assume is he wanted to copy my reporting format, forget to change the URL. Notice the number of followers section: mdayonliner post has 2136 which is close to the current followers 1736 and the other account post has 3023 followers.

The post from quangtrung1991 account seems a mistake from the user where the other two users (phantiennghia and nguyenthanhhieu) post seems planed? or what could be the possible reason. Why would I (mdayonliner) will make two posts on June09 and June12 from two brand new accounts created on April 03 and May 22 when I was doing very well with my mdayonliner account. FIY hilari tagged me on July 09. Another point worth to note is: The fight between me and xtraelv was started on May 19 precisely on May 09. I have no accusation against anyone by the way coz I have really decided to give up from this account. My be I will start over, may be I already did, may be I will never look back to BitcoinTalk life.

But before I go, I would like to give you a final thought @The Pharmacist and others about this new acquisition: If I create few bitcoinTalk accounts and then start finding your tweets of a bounty campaigns you are and post them using those alts to frame you (perhaps) will that make you (the real The Pharmacist) a bounty abuser?

I tried my best to prove/defend my image on the forum even with this surprising new one (alt account and abusing bounty). On my defending and even all those past days I have never lied (consciously) which I only know. Certain things I can never change even if I try thousand times. I was never a perfect one and I don't expect to be one coz it's never possible for a human. It was a pleasure hanging out on this forum with all the goods and bads. May be someday I will come back proving everyone wrong that offering the 20BTC escrow was a legit one. I had no intention to walkaway with the money even the amount is a very very huge one.

Good luck everyone, good luck BitcoinTalk.

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Archive

Certainly looks that way. The nguyenthanhhieu status was posted first and when I checked it showed that it has not been edited.




https://archive.fo/6wSFj

The Mdayonliner post was posted the following day with the same twitter status.


https://archive.fo/rQ5eg


https://archive.fo/yfw53

Account farmers tend to make mistakes. Getting confused with which profile they are posting.

So it looks like mdayonliner abused that Ambassador airdrop/bounty with alt accounts?  Does that sound about right?

I would advise you to be a lot less ambitious in your dealings on bitcointalk if you go that route.  I never thought you offered to do that escrow deal so you could run away with the money, but you most likely would have had the temptation to, and given that you didn't have a reputation as an escrow, it was an ill-advised offer.  My impression was always that you were trying to build a reputation here too quickly, and that got you in trouble.

So what about the apparent alt accounts you had participating in the bounty I mentioned above?

I think you posted the wrong archive for quangtrung1991 . It is the same as the mdayonliner one.


I found the post and archived it https://archive.fo/NBqhO

mdayonliner Twitter Archive

quangtrung1991 Twitter Archive

If it means mdayonliner and quangtrung1991 are alt account then base on archive quangtrung1991, sharkboyno2, pvietnam92, Taitrader, OVERCILL and mdayonliner are same person.

Another one ?

https://archive.fo/B5jjH
https://archive.fo/PWDw4
https://archive.fo/GfXmt

I don't know why are you really don't want to accept your mistake. You always try to defend yourself and always trying to win. Look like only you are right and all others is wrong. How do you think others people's are not ranking up. You didn't? And am I not doing ? There is more people's who are building own account from began. I don't see any point of your challenge. If we could build a account from began that obviously hilariousandco could. You always try to argue with them who tagged you instead of convinced. Your main point is why they should tag you since you are good poster. Do you know pride is the root for demise. I will not surprised if someday I got tag for my mistake. Even I never tried to call myself as a good poster. But it's true I am trying to learn.

To be honest, if I am on your place than I would locked this thread after 1 reply. But still you are like to argue.

I wasn't going to comment but I see that you have used this as an opportunity to malign my motives - again.

Regarding the merit accusation you jumped to conclusions without even talking to me. It annoyed me that you pulled Lafu into it all. Someone who I respect for the volunteer work that he does. Someone who has received hundreds of merits from others.

But I did not create that topic because I was mad at you or out of "madness". I created the topic because it is true.

Nothing in the investigation topic that I have written is untrue. If there is anything that is untrue I will happily modify it.

You fail to take responsibility for your own actions.

Your brought attention to yourself by your activities and as a result your history as a ponzi promoter was exposed.

I don't trust you because you promoted ponzis. and did plenty of other suspect stuff.

It soon became obvious that you were creating situations to farm merit and to to obtain trust ( here and here ) while deliberately ignoring the obvious forum rule violations of people that you associate with.

The type of people that are your social media followers are the exact type of people that cause this forum so much problems.

You've been caught receiving merit from your brother.
You've been caught merit begging.
You've been caught shitposting numerous times. (73 replies deleted by moderators and 9 topics removed according to bpip.org)
You've been caught trying to escrow a large amount
You've been caught being part of a dodgy signature campaign.
You've been found to have a history of promoting multiple ponzis
You've received 3 forum bans.

In the meantime you require higher standards from others expecting them to be tagged.


http://archive.is/UqLaG#selection-699.1-699.137

This is your opinion on others that break the rules:



But you don't feel that others should apply that to you. Why ?

I don't claim to know everything. Where did I ever make this claim? Where did I ever claim to know how much money you may or may not have or what you can and can't do? You're just projecting things on to me based on your opinion, which is obviously biased.


Yes, it is a warning. Why would I give neutral. I'm not going to leave a neutral trust for someone who tries to escrow deals with little to no reputation, especially for such a high amount. I find it highly likely something would have gone amiss with this deal if it had of happened. That's just too much money and I just don't trust you and that's reflected in the feedback. I've left plenty of feedbacks against people offering escrows when they shouldn't and many of them still went on to scam. I'm not saying you would have for certain and that's something we'll never know but I still don't trust you because of it, hence the feedback.


You got me. This was all a ploy just to solicit donations from buttlickers for a Lamborghini. Well done for busting me. So far I have received zero donations for my Lambo fund so it's going very well (but if anyone wants to donate to it my address is in my profile). I mean, what the hell are you rambling on about? You got exited, did something stupid and got negative feedback. Stop talking bollocks and making stuff up just to suit your arguments.


No. This is just your opinion. I don't know everything, but I'm pretty positive I do know your alt.


Why would I do you that favour? You'll just create a new one and move on to that one then I'll have to wait till my all knowing powers sense your presence again. Maybe I will leave it negative. Maybe I won't. Maybe I'll give you a second chance, but I'm watching you, don't worry. Just don't try make any more escrow deals once you become a Senior.


How did I build them up very easily? You think it's easy to build the rep I have and write tens of thousands of posts over five years and acquire so much merit? And what's a competition? This account is also DT2 and I don't have time to tag them all so I let other members of the community check the info, offer their input and look for more etc.


Why do I care whether you think I'm bluffing? I'd be willing to bet money on it if you want to put some in escrow (and no, we can't use you as an escrow  ).


I'd easily be able to do it, but it's not something I'm going to waste my time on just to prove something to you. If you wanted to put some substantial amount of money on this to make it worth my time I'd possibly take you up on the bet though.

What was cashbackadverts? Site is offline. On this forum https://www.beermoneyforum.com/threads/cashbackadverts-com-reviews-scam-or-legit.10290/ site was moved to HYPE section. Why would any forum move legit site to HYPE reviews https://www.beermoneyforum.com/forums/hyips-reviews.31/ ?

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I don't think he is bluffing 

Stop feeding people that you know everything, every direction and moves of someone you don't know. You have no idea about my social and financial status, you have no idea about what I can and can't do, you have no idea about my achievements and failures, you have no idea about my educational background, my professional & personal network etc etc. Mate, we even never met! If my attempt was to get the tags removed then I would not write provoking statement about marlboroza's rating.

hilariousetc, you think I don't know how to treat people to get unfair advantages? I can challenge anyone to win a debate when both will have the same ground (not one is a DT1 with super power and another have a very little recognition from the community). I do know some of the unfair tricks to get advantages from uppers as much as some other smart people do here. Thing is, I don't apply it all the time. If I would then I would not use my real identity here on this forum. In that case that xtraelv and shitheads would never find that I was involved with those online marketing stuffs before (no one is perfect but that does not mean people are bad) and you would never called me ponzi promoter. How many times I had to explain that I never promoted any of these on this forum? I have left those stuffs after creating the last video when they changed their terms and that was long before I joined this forum.

On this forum, as a username (that's all matter here) - the only mistake (if I ignore my real identity things) I did was to offer that 20BTC escrow service and that's IT! You painted me with a Death Threat(order) and people started to think me that I am a scammer! Do you call it warning to the community? Where is the use of Neutral Trust?

Do you see the unfairness? (provably you will never coz you are obsessed with thinking that whatever you do is always right, you are enjoying the super power you have here as a DT1, you are obsessed with thinking that people will start donating you bitcoin for the Lambo coz you are a DT1, you are obsessed with the support you get from the ass-lickers who are waiting to get some of the power you have from you). My fight was to establish this thinking that I am not a scammer, I never scammed anyone ever. It hurts a lot when you get treated for something you are really not... I will quote vit05 since s/he explained it better than me. Thanks vit05.


100% and I would advise everyone here to learn from my mistakes.

I am sorry I gave up from mdayonliner. It's too hurtful to hear people pointing me that I am a scammer.

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I challenge you to become a Sr. Member by creating a brand new account which will have no connection with any of the hilari accounts. Expose it once you become a Sr. Member. You will realize the blood and sweat.
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Perhaps me too  . I don't care if he create new account or this isn't my business. But most likely I got him. People can't leave few habits ever. But I have confirmed you didn't send him merit yet although most reputed member did it. A new user posting style and old user posting type could not be same. However best of luck to him since forum allow multiple account so I don't like bother myself.

Whether it's admirable or not is up for debate but mdayonliner was obviously just hoping that the feedback would be removed if he stayed around and kept contributing for a bit. It was just his last ditch attempt to get it removed as there's no other option for him really unless you can build up some positive trades to neutralise it. He's moved on to another account now though, and I'm pretty sure I know which one it is already haha. I swear I'm developing a sixth sense for finding alts just by the way they type. I've probably spent too much time on this board  .