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legendary
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March 01, 2024, 06:35:54 PM
#84
I decided to come up with this topic because of an experience i had yesterday and i decided to bring it here for clarity sake and to see some people's view about it.

There is this notion the society placed on those who gamble or who play all sorts of games ,be it casino,bet9ja,R/S lotto, what, snooker and many others. They often see them as those who don't have what to ,or caliber of individuals who are jobless, a se of people who are not well trained by their parents and many more other names they call them.

i sincerely came up with this topic to find out why they have such views on individuals who voluntarily went to the betting shop to gamble either to win and make a difference or to lose and remain the same way.  This idea actually started when i saw a pastor playing bet9ja after a brief evangelism and one elderly woman made a side comment ( That even man of GOD also play gamble) .

however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.

I believe that this perception occurs because in these types of places or games there are a lot of people who are there practically every day, and for those who see this, the feeling that remains is that these people really are idle, when in fact they are just enjoying your leisure time.

Going to a bar every day, playing pool, cards or even going to a casino should be seen as something "normal" as long as it is practiced without abuse.

There are many people who, at the end of the day or on weekends, occupy their "free time" with something much less productive or even illegal and no one says anything bad about them, because no one sees what that person does, unlike those who frequent a place public such as a bar or casino.
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March 01, 2024, 06:21:59 PM
#83
I decided to come up with this topic because of an experience i had yesterday and i decided to bring it here for clarity sake and to see some people's view about it.

There is this notion the society placed on those who gamble or who play all sorts of games ,be it casino,bet9ja,R/S lotto, what, snooker and many others. They often see them as those who don't have what to ,or caliber of individuals who are jobless, a se of people who are not well trained by their parents and many more other names they call them.

i sincerely came up with this topic to find out why they have such views on individuals who voluntarily went to the betting shop to gamble either to win and make a difference or to lose and remain the same way.  This idea actually started when i saw a pastor playing bet9ja after a brief evangelism and one elderly woman made a side comment ( That even man of GOD also play gamble) .

however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
In fact there is no specificity in gambling that only they will participate here. All types of people can participate in the gambling platform but nowadays all people participate in gambling because of the online platform. Many may not even imagine that all these people participate in gambling.  We may be surprised by some people who come to play offline gambling but no wonder everyone can participate here. From the clergy, down to the lowly people can participate in gambling we can never prohibit there is no jurisdiction to prohibit. Gambling platforms have no restrictions, no stratification, and all types of people from all walks of life can participate.
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March 01, 2024, 05:51:42 PM
#82
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There is no such thing as gambling without limitations. However, a gambler may choose between following a certain limitation or not. If the gambler chooses not to follow any limitations, then he doesn't need to worry about any limitations at all.
Yeah, and that's the reason why many gamblers are becoming addicted and suffering from its consequences. The thing is, limitation is the aspect wherein people will know when to stop, and they know no matter what happens if they reach it, they need to stop what they are doing. But in some cases, gamblers are exceeding their limitations, or without them, they are going beyond their limitations in gambling in terms of financial state, and from their numerous crimes or bad happenings,.

Even if we tell them to limit their gambling to what they only have for allocation to gambling, nothing will happen if we are not the ones that will help them, but yeah, we can't dictate and mendle other people's lives. If they choose to abandon their gambling limitations, then so be it; they are the ones that will suffer from the consequences and will lose their path.
It's always important to set limitations in gambling, because there is always potential consequences of exceeding those boundaries. Limitations serve as a crucial safeguard against the adverse effects of excessive gambling that helps people recognize when to pause and reassess their behavior. But indeed, despite efforts to encourage responsible gambling practices, people may still choose to disregard their limitations that leads to detrimental outcomes. While we can offer guidance and support, gamblers must take responsibility for their actions and the consequences that follow.

It's true that we cannot control or dictate the decisions of others, especially when it comes to deeply personal matters like gambling behavior. The consequences of exceeding gambling limitations can be severe, ranging from financial difficulties to legal issues and strained relationships. It's a painful reality that people may need to experience it before recognizing the need for change. While we may not be able to directly intervene in their life, we can still offer support, guidance, and resources to those who may be struggling.
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March 01, 2024, 04:54:03 PM
#81
Unfortunately, for many years now, people who get involved in gambling have been seen as people without a job, people who have nothing else useful to do in life, but the same people who have been saying this kind of nonsense are people with alcohol problems, these are people who have problems with cigarettes, and as they are addicted to alcohol and cigarettes, it doesn't look good to criticize them, that's why in most cases the guys involved in gambling prefer to ignore the negative comments and remain focused in their gaming activities because they are playing with money from their own pockets and for fun,

In recent times, with the advancement of technology, people have started to look at games of chance with greater normality, even here in my country it is normal that on every street I see many people playing slot machines, and no one keeps accusing them of being stupid people or criticizing them with insulting words, people here in my country have realized that gambling is a means of fun like any other thing that exists, rich people in my country constantly go to physical casinos in my country while normal people play in online casinos in my country and the government of my country has been encouraging more casinos to come to my country because they want to promote tourism in that way
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March 01, 2024, 04:11:52 PM
#80
however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Gambling is generally unrestricted, but some individuals may choose to impose limitations based on their circumstances. For instance, if you wish to maintain a certain image and avoid any negative associations with gambling, or if you are adhering to the tenets of a particular religion, you may choose to refrain from gambling.

It all depends on the individual whether they choose to impose restrictions on themselves or not. There are no restrictions on any particular group or class, as it ultimately comes down to personal choice and whether one decides to take a risk or not.
the thing that will make some people not to impose a restriction in gambling is when they are addicted in gambling you can only remember that you may have a limitation in gambling when you are not a committed gambler, I committed gambler is kind of gambler that does not think of restriction think of limitation before they kick of in gambling, so in my own understanding in gambling you have to know yourself and have a safe control in any gambling you venture into, I believe that gambling have to do with precautions and you have to remove a curiosity if you want to win in gambling.
There is no such thing as gambling without limitations. However, a gambler may choose between following a certain limitation or not. If the gambler chooses not to follow any limitations, then he doesn't need to worry about any limitations at all.
Yeah, and that's the reason why many gamblers are becoming addicted and suffering from its consequences. The thing is, limitation is the aspect wherein people will know when to stop, and they know no matter what happens if they reach it, they need to stop what they are doing. But in some cases, gamblers are exceeding their limitations, or without them, they are going beyond their limitations in gambling in terms of financial state, and from their numerous crimes or bad happenings,.

Even if we tell them to limit their gambling to what they only have for allocation to gambling, nothing will happen if we are not the ones that will help them, but yeah, we can't dictate and mendle other people's lives. If they choose to abandon their gambling limitations, then so be it; they are the ones that will suffer from the consequences and will lose their path.
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March 01, 2024, 02:53:18 PM
#79
While major religions might throw some shade at gambling, saying it's totally forbidden in every single one is a bit of a stretch. Some religions see it as a straight-up no-go, but others are more like, "just be chill and responsible, homie."

And let's talk about the stereotype that all gamblers are irresponsible slackers. Not cool, right? It's easy to judge, but the truth is, some folks just enjoy gambling occasionally, like catching a movie, and they do it responsibly with money they can afford to spend. Just like with anything else, it's all about balance and knowing your limits.

Instead of painting everyone with the same brush, let's focus on individual responsibility. Whether you're religious or not, the key is to gamble responsibly, set limits, and not let it control your life. And if you or someone you know is struggling with gambling addiction, remember, there's always help available. Just reach out!
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March 01, 2024, 01:15:44 PM
#78
There is this notion the society placed on those who gamble or who play all sorts of games ,be it casino,bet9ja,R/S lotto, what, snooker and many others. They often see them as those who don't have what to ,or caliber of individuals who are jobless, a se of people who are not well trained by their parents and many more other names they call them.
I think this notion only goes for people who plays gambling excessively and people who are addicted. How do you expect people to see people that plays gambling excessively and addicted? Ofcourse they will be seen as people who have no job and who have no plan for life. It is not everyone that plays gambling that is seen as irresponsible person, only those that plays gambling uncontrollable.  The reason why gamblers like this are seen as people not well trained by their parents is because they generate money in anyway just to satisfy their urge of playing gambling and they not  care if it will affect them or not.

Their are still responsible gamblers that are doing well , people like this understand their limits of playing gambling, and also use the right amount that they can afford to lose, I don't think people like this will be seen as irresponsible.
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March 01, 2024, 01:14:42 PM
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Because casinos have regged (empty) or make people to be empty or crimple the economy not the individual so when the society see that those who playing gamble are not doing well or living well then they would not allow the wards to follow that part because it is not good and nobody that has taken that part has succeeded in life. If people have done well in gambling in the society then parents would have allowed their children to play because they have seen people who gamble to become rich and living well in the society.

Those who gamble are tagged in the society as criminal in some places and those who have strong head that does not obey their parents went to the gambling halls and play and do all sort of things. Gamblers are known as trouble makers.

Valid, gamblers have created wrong impressions in the society, and nobody is fine with harnessing a child who is a gambler. That's why parents end up teaching their children not to indulge into gambling, but the reverse or opposite do occur, meaning that no bad publicity. Telling a child not to gamble is like encouraging him to try it out. Most time, I'd warn people not to mention the word "gambling" to the growing youth. Let him make his choices, because when we advise a person against something, there is a high tendency the person would want to figure out why he's told not to do that specific thing.

Hence, when in the society, you'd see youths, whom their parents may have told not to gamble, in the gambling house. When the problem arises, the parents may be less concerned about noticing or helping the child with his gambling troubles. Thereby increasing the addiction of the child, and he will be spending more money on gambling, that may have been used to further the economic growth of the society he found himself. I think it's the main reason the society is not in support of gambling.
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March 01, 2024, 12:58:15 PM
#76
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Yes, there are some casinos that don't have any such limits or restrictions but I guess they must have age related restriction in order to stop underage people from using their platforms. It could cause huge problems if a young gets addicted to gambling.
yes of course if our perspective is looking at the moral side, then the rules must exist in every casino to filter underage casino users, but if there is no government regulation to limit casinos then casinos without restrictions are legal, and we cannot argue with that. but if the demand is moral then it needs to be limited even though there is no legal regulation from the government directly.

But if the demand is moral then it needs to be restricted even if there is no legal regulation from the government directly. Because we can see the moral law from the impact that it has, as you said that it will be bad for the younger generation if when their children have access to gambling, it will create a bad generation for a nation.
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March 01, 2024, 12:09:24 PM
#75

There is this notion the society placed on those who gamble or who play all sorts of games ,be it casino,bet9ja,R/S lotto, what, snooker and many others. They often see them as those who don't have what to ,or caliber of individuals who are jobless, a se of people who are not well trained by their parents and many more other names they call them.


I don't blame some people for having such a perception about gambling because of the behavior of some gamblers. There are so many irresponsible gamblers who see betting as a full-time job and invest carelessly in gambling. I used the word invest because they see gambling as a place where you can put in money and get back just like every other business. In my location, you will see them in physical bet shops where they spend the most productive part of the day. Some of them are even jobless and see gambling as the only source of income. It is also common to see gangs fight because of gambling and it makes the place dangerous. Irresponsible gambling makes gambling look dirty.

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i sincerely came up with this topic to find out why they have such views on individuals who voluntarily went to the betting shop to gamble either to win and make a difference or to lose and remain the same way.  This idea actually started when i saw a pastor playing bet9ja after a brief evangelism and one elderly woman made a side comment ( That even man of GOD also play gamble) .

Some societies naturally hate some behavior. In my location gambling, smoking, and other common behaviors are highly frowned upon. This societal belief is also gaining its strength from religious beliefs. Some churches view gambling as a grave sin and a pastor shouldn't engage in such activities. These religious institutions view gambling as a sign of greed and get-rich-quick mentality. However, no place in the Bible talks about gambling therefore most of these doctrines are invented by religious preachers.

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However, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.

Some professions believe that gambling is against their work ethics. Some people might not be comfortable if they know that the financial secretary or treasurer of an organization is a gambler. Some religious members will feel that their leader is a sinner if he gambles.
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March 01, 2024, 12:07:29 PM
#74
Don't blame one-sidedly or certain individuals. It all depends on a person's character, and if you look at one priest, are all priests like that? There are no restrictions on gambling, anyone can do it, so why do you mind? are you most holy
You are a racist, friend
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March 01, 2024, 12:02:34 PM
#73
There will always be that negative perception from the masses to those people who are gambling. They think that these people are always up to no good and have failed in life, hence they resort to gambling for the 'easy' route. I don't blame them, as the most vivid images of gambling are those who have lost everything due to addiction. What people fail to acknowledge is that there are also those successful people who gamble just because they have the money to do so, and it's something that's not being looked at as the most common picture you see are losers and those who grieve due to gambling.

Everyone and anyone can gamble, it's just that due to the negative effects of gambling that people see, society often connect it with people who failed in life. There are many gamblers out there who live a normal life and not addicted to gambling at all. These are the guys that society thinks are the only ones allowed to gamble because they have the money.

In the end, it's still a personal choice. Let people do their stuff. If they fail, it's on them, not on you.
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March 01, 2024, 11:43:59 AM
#72
however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
This assumption is not because they play certain games or because they come from the lower middle class, but because gambling is always considered a bad thing, even when someone commits a bad act and is known to be a gambler, society will immediately associate it with their gambling habits even though the reason for their bad actions could be something else and that's people who will only judge from the surface, they will see what is visible without ever considering anything else.
In addition, media reports that sometimes do not detail the bad things about gambling increasingly make people agree that gambling is a bad thing, even though of the many who gamble there may be those who have bad behavior, but those who remain good human beings are of course also many, because they gamble just for fun and are responsible for their gambling.
Society's one-dimensional perspective of gambling is the problem. Everything is about surface judgements, as you said. People see what they want. Gambling becomes blamed if someone stumbles after betting. A culture that won't look further uses it as a scapegoat

The media? Don't start. Selling stories, not truths. They'll simplify a difficult topic like gambling and call it the foundation of all evil. Top-notch sensationalism. What they won't tell you: Guess what? Money management, risk assessment, and self-control are essential life skills. Gamblers that bet responsibly master these skills

It's time to accept that gambling, like any other human activity, is neutral. Individuals and their choices shape the story. Please stop demonising the many for the crimes of a few. Isn't it hypocritical to criticise harshly when we all take risks?
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March 01, 2024, 10:50:49 AM
#71
Gambling is not restricted to some individuals or class and all people can playing gambling. The problem is many underage playing gambling because they see gambling can gives fast money to them although that is not always right because winning gambling is depends on your luck and your analysis. We also see someone that is religious playing gambling and forget about his religion for a while. We should realizes that playing gambling or not is about personal decisions and even if our society or religion leader prohibits gambling, they can force their people to stop gambling and stay away from gambling. People knows about prohibition on playing gambling but they still playing gambling.

When restriction is made on gambling it is not based on religion but either for social reasons to protect the people and it is the government that does that, religious bodies don't do that but they can give strong warning or sanction to members but they can not watch over all members because even some religious heads do play in secret just like you have also said. Prohibition of gambling is for the health of the society based on the particular government reason or reasons for doing it and one could be to guide against underaged gambling. To avoid loses from the citizens like they want their people to channel resources into other productive area of lives.  The government believe gambling is a waste despite the winning season so they want to prevent loses by prohibiting it although some could be for religious reasons like certain countries have been known for religious reasons.
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March 01, 2024, 10:48:50 AM
#70

however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Well, there's no such thing also with race, gender, except with age wherein a gambler should at least be 18 as we all know. But if it is social strata or socioeconomic status then there's no such thing as restriction as long as you have the money to bet. However, consequences are equal to every gambler; we are all prone of losing. Now, if you are on the category of average salary earners, then could you shoulder the loss without affecting your daily expenses? Or without struggling on a daily basis? More likely you would which is why gambling is more convenient with high salary earners. They might lose huge amount but they can replace the amount through their salary which will aid the possibility of struggling after a negative betting outcome. Bottomline is, everyone is welcome to gamble however loss is not for everyone to take the burden with.
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March 01, 2024, 10:28:50 AM
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The restrictions on gambling has always been on age and not class or even financial capabilities, there are restrictions based on countries too which I don't fail to recognize too.
Yes, and I'm very sure that age related gambling restrictions will exist forever. Because a kid or those who are underage don't really understand that how harmful gambling could be for them. Even if young people get addicted to gambling they can later find out a way to reduce the impact of that addiction when they learn about gambling responsibility but someone who's underage won't be able to give up on that addiction and that will cause huge problems in his life. In some places even underage people can use an online casino by faking his registration age at online casinos, however they won't be able to get their KYC verified due to the age restriction.

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Yes, there are some casinos that don't have any such limits or restrictions but I guess they must have age related restriction in order to stop underage people from using their platforms. It could cause huge problems if a young gets addicted to gambling.

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March 01, 2024, 10:19:08 AM
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is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?

No gambling is not restricted to some individuals or classes of people, anyone is allowed to gamble. Of course there are some age related restrictions but other than that I don't think there's any kind of restriction. If a country's law doesn't allow gambling and the country takes strict action against casinos then in such places it might be not possible to gamble, but many people even from such countries use VPNs to gamble on online casino sites. No stratification at all when it comes to gambling, like I said above everyone is allowed to gamble.
This relates to norms and rules can also be seen from the culture or teachings that are applied to a person about whether gambling is appropriate or not, if by rule then there is indeed a limit in age, whether in writing or not, but if you look at it we can access gambling depending on whether the gambling also has restrictions on individuals or not, because if there are no restrictions on the casino then there are no restrictions, but if there are restrictions on the casino then there are restrictions, so in my opinion this is back to the casino to see gambling has restrictions or not, and depends on where you will see these two sides. Because we know that there is gambling that has restrictions and there is also gambling that has no limits that can be accessed by anyone.
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March 01, 2024, 10:09:57 AM
#67
Gambling is not restricted to some individuals or class and all people can playing gambling. The problem is many underage playing gambling because they see gambling can gives fast money to them although that is not always right because winning gambling is depends on your luck and your analysis. We also see someone that is religious playing gambling and forget about his religion for a while. We should realizes that playing gambling or not is about personal decisions and even if our society or religion leader prohibits gambling, they can force their people to stop gambling and stay away from gambling. People knows about prohibition on playing gambling but they still playing gambling.
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March 01, 2024, 10:05:49 AM
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But should a pastor should be gambling? Pastor need to be leading by example...

I think you are right, a Pastor needs to lead by example if he truly believes in what he preaches, but I know that many religious persons think/believe in one thing and do the other. So it all comes down to one thing, we are all human, and we all have passions. Maybe this Pastor is in confrontation with his beliefs and his actions, but it's on him.

I am not a believer, at least not in some traditional/most spread religions. So I don't have this kind of conflict in my heart, I think that everything we do is ok & fine as long we don't hurt people around us.
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March 01, 2024, 10:03:34 AM
#65
I decided to come up with this topic because of an experience i had yesterday and i decided to bring it here for clarity sake and to see some people's view about it.

There is this notion the society placed on those who gamble or who play all sorts of games ,be it casino,bet9ja,R/S lotto, what, snooker and many others. They often see them as those who don't have what to ,or caliber of individuals who are jobless, a se of people who are not well trained by their parents and many more other names they call them.

i sincerely came up with this topic to find out why they have such views on individuals who voluntarily went to the betting shop to gamble either to win and make a difference or to lose and remain the same way.  This idea actually started when i saw a pastor playing bet9ja after a brief evangelism and one elderly woman made a side comment ( That even man of GOD also play gamble) .

however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Gambling isn't bad at all, but the mindset that most people approach it with makes it look bad. We were watching a match two weeks ago and a very young man like myself mentioned that gambling is his full time job. Everybody including myself were surprised to hear that. We asked him again and he confirmed the first statement was no mistake. Now these kind of people are those who create the bad notion about gambling. I tired hinting to him to desist from that habit, but he paid  deaf ears.

These kind of people's loose lives paints gambling a negative color and would make people, especially the elderly see gambling as a human wasting activity and not the fun its meant to be.
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