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February 29, 2024, 06:34:07 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.

other people look down on people who gamble because of the initial reactions of gamblers, that's why normal people look down on them because of the actions they show or the results of their gambling especially that is when your money is so depleted that you end up addicted to it. Gambling is not forbidden to everyone, actually it is open to everyone as long as you have money and can play it. There are only a few people who are prohibited from gambling, it depends on their religion but we will not discuss that further because it is too broad and there is an open topic about the gambling-religion relationship.
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February 29, 2024, 06:26:54 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Gambling is generally unrestricted, but some individuals may choose to impose limitations based on their circumstances. For instance, if you wish to maintain a certain image and avoid any negative associations with gambling, or if you are adhering to the tenets of a particular religion, you may choose to refrain from gambling.

It all depends on the individual whether they choose to impose restrictions on themselves or not. There are no restrictions on any particular group or class, as it ultimately comes down to personal choice and whether one decides to take a risk or not.
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February 29, 2024, 06:24:47 PM
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Religiously speaking, gambling is prohibited in every kind of religion that is followed by majority.

Let's talk about the perception, yes people consider who regularly gambles are irresponsible and jobless but do they ever really had thought about how they can afford to gamble if they are not making any money from it? I am not talking about the ones who gamble with others' money like from their parent's salary and those who do that really deserve that kind of criticism and they should not be allowed to continue with such behaviour because they know the importance of money only when they are making it and they will be responsible when it comes to their hard-earned money.

So it all depends on the individuals not simply the gambling itself.
Those who gamble with their own spare money, and do not rely on others or loan money to gamble will always be at the later risk of being irresponsible gamblers, and among other thing is that gambling if done in the right sense and following the right formula cant be taken to be an irresponsible act but many people still believe in that wrong assumption about gambling, because from the many outcome of gambling, it has been on a more negative public outlook and that is the reason why many non-gamblers always take gambling to be against the ethics.


But for experienced gamblers like myself and others like you who have taken the time to check the many ups and downs and if we properly manage ourselves we can be able to stay above the many negative waters in gambling
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February 29, 2024, 06:20:07 PM
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I decided to come up with this topic because of an experience i had yesterday and i decided to bring it here for clarity sake and to see some people's view about it.

There is this notion the society placed on those who gamble or who play all sorts of games ,be it casino,bet9ja,R/S lotto, what, snooker and many others. They often see them as those who don't have what to ,or caliber of individuals who are jobless, a se of people who are not well trained by their parents and many more other names they call them.

i sincerely came up with this topic to find out why they have such views on individuals who voluntarily went to the betting shop to gamble either to win and make a difference or to lose and remain the same way.  This idea actually started when i saw a pastor playing bet9ja after a brief evangelism and one elderly woman made a side comment ( That even man of GOD also play gamble) .

however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Because gambling is not a vocation, nor is it something that can be honed through skill and practice (for the most part at the very least). If anything gambling is a form of vice and since gambling is done with full-on attention and sometimes in isolation, people automatically think of gamblers as good-for-nothing shut-ins with no life of their own, no job to show for it, and no future to look forward to. Is it wrong? Yes, can we really do something about the perception? I don't think so.

I'm not saying we should give up changing the narrative and actually painting gambling as a little less weird and niche hobby for people, what I am saying is that perhaps instead of looking outwards and preaching about changing the narrative for the better, we get our asses up and running and actually do something that would further the cause. It's quite easy to preach, it's harder to live up to what you're trying to preach about. But it surely pays as people's perception and idea about gambling's directly correlated to how they see their parents, friends, and other loved ones succumb to gambling addiction. If everyone's more grounded when they play and do not make stupid decisions when they do so, then perhaps we would see a massive mood shift towards gambling. But again, it's not gonna start from whining about the fact that people see gamblers as slobbering incels.
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February 29, 2024, 06:19:23 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  

The restriction depends on;

* whether this person is following a certain gambling rule and is forced to comply with it or
* just self-restriction.

Let's take for example the pastor you have saw doing gambling. Pastor is the term used for a minister in charge in a Christian church. There were no written scriptures saying gambling is illegal or prohibited in that religion therefore doing gambling is not considered a sin. Since there was no restriction, we can assume that a pastor is allowed to gambling. But since they minister to the church, they are being followed by their people therefore if young generations see them gambling, they might encourage these people to do the same which is not good. In this situation, the pastor should self-restrict his stand towards gambling.

In another example, for those people who are forced not to do gambling, basically, it means these people are whether:

* living in a country where gambling is totally illegal
* member of the religion where gambling is prohibited
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February 29, 2024, 06:11:39 PM
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i sincerely came up with this topic to find out why they have such views on individuals who voluntarily went to the betting shop to gamble either to win and make a difference or to lose and remain the same way.  This idea actually started when i saw a pastor playing bet9ja after a brief evangelism and one elderly woman made a side comment ( That even man of GOD also play gamble) .

The society sees gambling as bad as what they see regularly are those that gambling has destroy and not those individual that has been helped from being poor due to gambling. Gambling has affected more life in the bad way but still gambling has some good that it's doing to the community. We have less crime rates and before criminals are gambling to get some financial assistance instead of robbing or doing other crimes that affect the society more than gambling would had.

Every individual have their own prescription about gambling and for me I don't see it as a bad thing. Gambling is a game of choice as nobody force anybody to start gambling therefore we should allow everyone to do what they wanted to do and doinythat they don't want to. Individuals are different for a reason therefore people should stop assuming that everyone will follow what the society thinks is right.
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February 29, 2024, 06:08:26 PM
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It's easy for people to judge others for activities that they have never tried...

What does a non-smoker think about people who smoke?

What does a non-drinker think about people who drink?

And what does a non-gambler think about gamblers?

I hope you get the point now, when we grow up our parents teach us "Don't do that because is a bad vice", so, we grow up with a bad idea about some activities, but from my point of view we have to try/taste to be able to judge something.
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February 29, 2024, 06:04:28 PM
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i sincerely came up with this topic to find out why they have such views on individuals who voluntarily went to the betting shop to gamble either to win and make a difference or to lose and remain the same way.  This idea actually started when i saw a pastor playing bet9ja after a brief evangelism and one elderly woman made a side comment ( That even man of GOD also play gamble).
This is not an isolated case and it depends on the country, here in our country it's normal to see that I have seen a high-ranking member of a Church betting in a lottery outlet, telling everyone his intention is pure as he is going to use the money for the betterment of his Church and buying a parcel of a lot and construct a building for his Church because what they have is very old one.

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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
No, there is none as long as you understand the game you have the money and the money you'll spend is something that you are ok with losing you can bet and it's your right to bet, gambling is for everyone it is a conscience to conscience basis.
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February 29, 2024, 05:45:11 PM
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Everyone has their own perception about gambling and also towards a gambler, and it all depends on what they see. and we need to respect it, because they also have that perception, not without reason behind it. And we can't stress enough that everyone has the same perception about gambling.

Gambling is considered bad because gambling is very synonymous with the world of night and darkness, and a gambler can be said to be bad, this is because there are some of them (gamblers) who are addicted to gambling, where the consequences of this addiction make them trapped in poverty, become someone who is uneducated and just being unemployed.

A gambler is synonymous with poverty, because many of them experience significant financial losses due to their gambling habits, where they experience gambling problems and tend to become dependent on the gambling games they often play. It could be that they often neglect their financial responsibilities because they are too focused on gambling, so they often face financial difficulties and end up in poverty. So this creates a social stigma against a gambler.

A gambler is someone who is uneducated, this kind of stigma can arise because there are some gamblers who are not able to control their gambling activities well, and this shows that the person does not have a scale of priorities and responsibilities. Where they prioritize their gambling activities above things that are more important than just gambling.

And finally, regarding the stigma that a gambler is unemployed. This stigma can arise because it cannot be denied that many gamblers are addicted to gambling, not only do they lose their jobs but they also lose the trust of other people, so it becomes quite difficult for them to get a job again, and in the end he was just unemployed.
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February 29, 2024, 05:40:55 PM
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Mate, them gamblers, they reckon they're legends, takin' a punt on everythin' like it's gonna sort out all their dramas. But fair dinkum, they're as clueless as a kangaroo in a boxing match. They don't give a rip about the aftermath of their choices, and when Lady Luck ain't on their side, they're left in a right mess, lookin' like they've just copped a croc bite. It's like the whole bleedin' world's come crashing down on 'em, and they're stuck in the deep end, no flamin' clue how to paddle out.
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February 29, 2024, 05:39:29 PM
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The society often see gamblers as irresponsible and jobless cause most at times they show some level of addiction and you would hear stupid stories so often of how people wrecked their finances through gambling, so with so much bad new spreading more than the good people are actually seeing gamblers in general as irresponsible irrespective of person and how they manage it's addiction.

Yeah because of the stigma around gambling it's as tho pastors that are supposed to be at the pinacle of being responsible should not indulge in a habit as irresponsible as that, because they feel that doing so means you are irresponsible too.

In general I don't have any negative perspective at gamblers cause I indulge in it too, so I guess this interview would have made more sense hearing from non gamblers.
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February 29, 2024, 05:35:30 PM
#33
however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?
It is only people who have old beliefs and have refused to let go of it that still see gambling as something that is restricted for individuals who are irresponsible in society. The common type of gamblers that these kinds of people are used to seeing are gamblers who are irresponsible, poor and struggling with addiction and that is why they have that opinion about it. This opinion stopped some people with interest in gambling from gambling, but with online, these people started gambling at their comfort and away from the criticism of the public. Responsible people still gamble, gambling is for everyone and gender as long as the gambler is qualified to gamble through age.
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February 29, 2024, 05:34:44 PM
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There is this notion the society placed on those who gamble or who play all sorts of games ,be it casino,bet9ja,R/S lotto, what, snooker and many others. They often see them as those who don't have what to ,or caliber of individuals who are jobless, a se of people who are not well trained by their parents and many more other names they call them.


Most people believe gambling is bad because majority of the gamblers they see around often act irresponsibly. Its either they gamble with their valuable properties or they stay unemployed and lazy with the hope of becoming rich overnight without having to work for it except through gambling. Most of these gamblers are the cause of this stigmatisation. I once believed too that gamblers are lazy people seeking for money they didn't work for. Now,  that negetive perspective I had for gamblers has changed greatly because I have met some responsible gamblers who are financially responsible. I have learnt from them to gamble responsibly too.


i sincerely came up with this topic to find out why they have such views on individuals who voluntarily went to the betting shop to gamble either to win and make a difference or to lose and remain the same way.  This idea actually started when i saw a pastor playing bet9ja after a brief evangelism and one elderly woman made a side comment ( That even man of GOD also play gamble)

Christianity is clearly against gambling. Being a church leader, it is better to live by example so your members don't go astray. Most religious leaders are role models to the young people. A young man who is not matured enough emotionally to gamble  can start gambling because his pastor gambles. If he is not lucky, he might end struggling with a gambling problem. Religious leaders should be careful of their activities because,  people are watching.
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February 29, 2024, 05:34:34 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?
Yes, based on your story that was a pastor that have gambled. As we all know about religious laws and rules, gambling isn't allowed for most of them. That's why they are expected to be holy and won't be violating the rules that are being said on their holy books or churches. But if someone testifies and seen them going there, I wonder what will be the members of their churches reaction when they see their pastor go to the betting shop. There is no other reason someone is going there but to gamble.

But if the pastor defends himself and tells that it is for good cause, that still violates the faith that he's teaching through the evangelism that he's preaching or every sermon he's telling to the church. That won't make sense even the reason is for good cause because if it is, he's going to tell this plan and project of good cause to his members and not going to go to these betting shops that he's likely to lose the offerings from his members if ever he's doing full time pastor.
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February 29, 2024, 05:32:43 PM
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~my curiosity.
No not really. As you said, it's simply biased due to the factors one had growing up. And most obviously, the majority of old people have this kind of negative bias about gambling and there's nothing much we can do about it since it's pretty rare in the first place to change someone's judgment on something, especially on cases like gambling and even more so in cases of old people.

There are possibly some religions that restrict gambling and/or other activities but that's something someone of higher standing ordered you to do so I wouldn't consider it as part of the issue here since the question stems from restriction. I guess the only exception would be those who participate in self-exclusion. Now those are restricted.
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February 29, 2024, 05:31:52 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Many are being restricted, with their family belief and also the religions belief but still they are able to gamble and find a way. Perception of many about gambling is negative as they believe that this is the root of evil because of the money and also because of how the people react to this especially with their emotion and greediness. If you are into gamble despite of the restriction, then better to keep it for yourself so you wont be judged easily by many.
Gambling is often seen as immoral or improper by both families and religious entities. However, as you point out, many continue to gamble despite their views. Sometimes I wonder whether the constraints make it more appealing and intriguing. Some people, for example, may believe that gambling, despite being illegal, is rebellious or bad.
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February 29, 2024, 05:26:57 PM
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is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Normally, gambling is open to everyone no matter what class or social status you are in, but that being said, certain beliefs restrict its followers from gambling and believes that people who gamble are immoral and sinners. it is one of the reasons why there are people who have low opinions towards people who are gambling, the other reasons are addiction and all the negative effects it has on the person.
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February 29, 2024, 05:25:59 PM
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(...)however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
I'm also a gambler, and I've never had to face judgment from anyone about my best friend's behavior. Not everyone gambles and brings negativity to themselves and their families. Prejudices from outsiders can be true/false and don't worry too much because we ourselves are the ones who decide, not based on their judgment.

Anyway, let's know about its true nature? For me, I simplify it as a form of entertainment in life, so don't get attached to things unrelated to it because I won't choose that. But I also sympathize with those who are influenced by gambling, all nuances are part of it all, and always remember to be responsible when gambling.
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February 29, 2024, 05:25:53 PM
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There is this notion the society placed on those who gamble or who play all sorts of games ,be it casino,bet9ja,R/S lotto, what, snooker and many others. They often see them as those who don't have what to ,or caliber of individuals who are jobless, a se of people who are not well trained by their parents and many more other names they call them.
I would also come up with the same conclusion if I see someone who gambles all day but only relies to his family to feed him or is jobless. I see a lot of people like that and I'm pretty sure you do too.
It's all good when I see someone enter a gambling shop for a few minutes or an hour but I know he also takes care of himself and his family.
This is about handling responsibility.
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February 29, 2024, 05:20:47 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Gambling is not restricted to any set of people or Class but gambling is for all, it knows no boundaries no ethnicity or whatsoever. it is a game of fun which always makes more sense when there is winning than loose, there is no stratification but a game of luck that requires attention and calculative atemp to play. So let's play wisely
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