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Topic: zeosX – Using People Identity Without Permission + [Possibility] Scam (Read 664 times)

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GermanTranslator | CommunityManager | Mojotastic™
First of all, we understand your frustration, however, patience pays off.
You spam us, we still check for your work and decide to pay you.
What you call spam, I perceived rather as a normal discussion of the given situation  (screenshots should be verification enough for that).

The problem with that is for that kind of work, how much you expect to be getting? And to just dump our tokens?
I expected getting as much as you personally stated on your bounty thread (see archive link in my post above). You can do the maths yourself.

It's stated clearly, distribution by 17th Aug 2019, so bounty participants have more than 1 week to report any problems to us.
How could I be able to if you blocked me on any channel?

We have done a lot of work to get rid of duplicate accounts.
Well, sorry bout that, unfortunately it's the work to be done if providing a bounty. But honestly, why does this matter to me personally?

The screenshot you gave is not complete too.
I provided every relevant screenshot. Anyways if you feel like some screenshot of relevance is missing here, you have the whole discussion yourself. Just upload it yourself then.

Most of their profiles are inactive, including yours. Your last post was on May 7th before you were caught.
So you might be using a duplicate account or might be using countless accounts to participate in bounty campaigns.
Please elaborate, how I could be using a duplicate accounts or endless accounts on one translation?
Also you can verify yourself that it's only one and the same account that was in charge for german translations.

You don't even bother to put your email and erc20 address.
I gladly would have liked to, but you blocked me on every channel.

The terms and conditions are clear too.
Could you also please elaborate in which way an "inactive" profile depreciates the real work I have done for your company in form of translating eg. your Whitepaper?
Also only cause I am not posting for a period of time, doesn't mean that I am inactive. It just means I am using Bitcointalk passively avoiding spamming the forum when I have nothing to say (which should be the most desirable for you bounty participants).


Once again: Talking bout humanity, but acting inhumane as soon as he has the chance to...
copper member
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First of all, we understand your frustration, however, patience pays off.
You spam us, we still check for your work and decide to pay you.

The problem with that is for that kind of work, how much you expect to be getting? And to just dump our tokens?
It's stated clearly, distribution by 17th Aug 2019, so bounty participants have more than 1 week to report any problems to us.

We have done a lot of work to get rid of duplicate accounts.

The screenshot you gave is not complete too.

Most of their profiles are inactive, including yours. Your last post was on May 7th before you were caught.
So you might be using a duplicate account or might be using countless accounts to participate in bounty campaigns.


You don't even bother to put your email and erc20 address.


The terms and conditions are clear too.



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GermanTranslator | CommunityManager | Mojotastic™
I'm sorry for digging out this outdated thread, but bounty stakes have been calculated. And I am as a translator not even on the spreadsheet.

This guy speaks of humanity but doesn't shy away to rip off other people.
On the one side I'm glad it's "only" time and efforts that I lost in this project, but on the other side I'm sorry for those invested real money in zeosX.

I try to keep it short:
I realised some days ago, that my translated content doesn't show up on the spreadsheet. This content was submitted by me back then on 17th January. I asked him what was wrong and he told me to submit it once more, which was okay for both parties.
2 days later he comes back to me, telling me I submitted too late. After verifying to him that my first submission took place in january he did his best to find another excuse not having to pay me. He came with my BCT account being inactive and I could be some duplicate account.

The rest is history and can be read on the screenshots...
(If you need more screenshots let me know, just don't wanna bloat this post up for now)





End of the story is, like mentioned above, I'm not even on the spreadsheet anymore ergo not gonna be paid at all.
I am banned in the group chat and ignored in pm.

This is what the education system has taught us, not to show any mercy to others.
There is no humanity left in this world, everyone is just for themselves [...]

Speaking of humanity but acting completely uncorrectly and unfair himself.


This is also a shout out to anyone in possession of their tokens to get rid of them as fast as you can!

Disclaimer: This is a financial advice.


PS: Final bounty distribution is calculated and this guy doesn't even pay 10% of what was promised on his bounty thread.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190808103018/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088386.0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nuo_AKraGhQzGKF5Oy8LLtUS_LR_mtuX8sCdGQUR0zQ/edit#gid=1126302835

That's all I need, at least for myself, to know this guy has no good intentions at all. Whether it's his bountyhunters or his investors.
legendary
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Yeah, that is exactly what everyone wants to hear.

Crypto bank and sob story behind it.

Wall of text.

Nothing relevant.
copper member
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This is what the education system has taught us, not to show any mercy to others.
There is no humanity left in this world, everyone is just for themselves.
And be jealous of those more successful than you.


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That is why these pasts lead me to always have mercy on people. Even you look at my website, i fought with my developer over the member site.
That he has done terrible job at this, it's not what i want, but i did not even give him any bad reviews. i left him positive reviews because he has been cooperative. In fact, i did not leave any bad reviews on any of my developers or designers before.


if you doubt that legal expert wrote that,



i have done what i could to explain...
legendary
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I know what I have posted, there is no need to quote entire post.
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So please ask other banking ICOs, especially successful ones, do they have legal docs on them?
If not, please give a red trust too, as i think it's unfair to just give us a bad review.
Which part you don't understand? Create new thread to talk about different projects.
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company = team, i do apologize for that, my developers designed the website.
Not when it is in ToS:
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Any activity of users/clients proved to be fraudulent will be subject to strict action by the company
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+ the Terms&Conditions i hired legal experts to write.
I doubt legal expert wrote that T&C.
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Just like that i get a red trust? I have to be so specific? we make errors on our website.
It is not only "error" you made, as pointed in this thread.
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We can have human error. Even the header is not supposed to be company, should be team.
Header, footer, ToS...
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Even now i believe there are some errors on my Whitepaper, that can make clients misunderstand.
...whitepaper https://www.zeosx.io/assets/front/images/zeosX-Whitepaper.pdf
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Please read the following notice carefully before proceeding to read this document prepared by the Company
The Whitepaper has been prepared solely in respect of the Company’s crowd sale of zeosX tokens (“ZEOS”) to be known as “ZEOS tokens”. No shares or other securities of the Company are being offered for subscription or sale in any jurisdiction pursuant to the Whitepaper. The
Whitepaper is being made publicly available for information purposes only and does not require any action to be taken by the
general public or shareholders of the Company. The Whitepaper does not constitute an offer or invitation to investors to subscribe
for or register shares of any other securities in the Company. Presently, the shares of the Company are not being offered to be registered under the Securities Act of any country or under any securities laws of any state
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only for a random guy to destroy your whole work.
Crypto bank sounds like very serious project. You, however, don't sound serious at all.
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+ i see you also gave red trust on Adab, one of the most viewed ICO also.
This is blatant lie. I never did such thing and if you want to discuss about that matter start another thread.
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If you want to talk about pundix or any other ICO create new thread. This topic is about you.

Now...
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Where is your crypto bank registered? What is name of the company?
Indonesia.
What is name of the crypto bank or company registered in Indonesia? Where can we find your company?




https://www.zeosx.io/Terms&Conditions
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FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY:

Any activity of users/clients proved to be fraudulent will be subject to strict action by the company.
You mentioned several times company so you must have company. I can't find correct name, address and other details on site.

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Once it's on scam accusation, people will give us a red trust no matter if we are true?
That is not true.
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Many are moving to altcoinstalks because of this.
We won't miss them, especially not some random "crypto bank" who doesn't know who works for them.

If you want to talk about pundix or any other ICO create new thread. This topic is about you.
But you mentioned legal docs, so i have the right to mention other ICOs.
So please ask other banking ICOs, especially successful ones, do they have legal docs on them?
If not, please give a red trust too, as i think it's unfair to just give us a bad review.


company = team, i do apologize for that, my developers designed the website.
I will change that. Sometimes i misunderstood.
My English is also not that good. I'm learning too.
+ the Terms&Conditions i hired legal experts to write.
Just like that i get a red trust? I have to be so specific? we make errors on our website.
This ICO is live just few weeks ago! We take months to finish it.
And that also we rush as we already take too much time.
We can have human error. Even the header is not supposed to be company, should be team.
Even now i believe there are some errors on my Whitepaper, that can make clients misunderstand.


Why do you only see the bad side of us?
The competition is already so tough right now. Market is so bad.
We have put in a lot of money + time.
Can you put yourself in our shoes right now? If you have spent so much effort,
hiring, designing, and writing WP, only for a random guy to destroy your whole work.
Where is your humanity? I just feel that for this small misunderstanding it's too harsh.


What is name of the crypto bank or company registered in Indonesia? Where can we find your company?
as i said, we have office address listed on WP ,
we rent and we are moving to a new address due to budget right now.

+ i see you also gave red trust on Adab, one of the most viewed ICO also.
I am not sure why you hate these ICOs that have lots of views.
legendary
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If you want to talk about pundix or any other ICO create new thread. This topic is about you.

Now...
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Where is your crypto bank registered? What is name of the company?
Indonesia.
What is name of the crypto bank or company registered in Indonesia? Where can we find your company?




https://www.zeosx.io/Terms&Conditions
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FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY:

Any activity of users/clients proved to be fraudulent will be subject to strict action by the company.
You mentioned several times company so you must have company. I can't find correct name, address and other details on site.

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Once it's on scam accusation, people will give us a red trust no matter if we are true?
That is not true.
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Many are moving to altcoinstalks because of this.
We won't miss them, especially not some random "crypto bank" who doesn't know who works for them.
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Where is your crypto bank registered? What is name of the company?
Indonesia. we are submitting legal docs soon. Please wait, it can take time.

Are you sure you want to register your company in Indonesia? Under what law you're applying if I may ask?

In singapore to create a company is called PTE LTD, every ICOs located in Singapore needs to have that.
i believe lots of icos is located there. U can give these ICOs red trust.

In Indonesia is called PT. In that case, pundiX is a scam too?

Then why don't you build a company in Singapore to run this ICO? Why did you want to register in Indonesia? I'm a bit surprised tbh that there's an ICO with a crytobank product in Indonesia because Indonesian government rules about ICO is not yet clear afaik.

PundiX, as far as I'm aware is not registered in Indonesia. They're registered in Isle of Man, according to this post.[1]

[1] https://medium.com/pundix/the-comprehensive-q-a-d0bc03977196

they are registered under Isle of Man but is their company there?
https://medium.com/pundix/the-comprehensive-q-a-d0bc03977196
China Jakarta is our management and operations centre with 15 staff Shenzhen is our R&D centre where 14 staff are based.

Indonesian government rules about ICO is not yet clear afaik.

we follow closely to pundiX as we see them as our friends, instead of competitors, same country support each other!
especially when indonesia has very few legit ICOs.
I have checked how pundiX works. they have lots of operations in Jakarta with their pundiX cards.

We want to register 2 offices, 1 in indo and 1 in Singapore.
In case of pundiX, if their company are in China and Indo, where is their proof of registration of PT and LTD, on both country?
I believe a registered company in the Isle of Man is just a license.

Of course i do need OJK license in Indo and MAS in singapore to operate a company.
+ you know how much it costs to register a company? especially in Singapore? The liquidity that a company needs to have?
Right now we are just renting an office, and we want to move very soon.
As i said, our budget is tight.

Ok lets not talk about pundiX, i don't want to bash on our own country,
how about bankera, Monaco? Look, all ICOs are security, once they are successfully funded, they need to have legal docs and company, not just license.  

Now is like i need to operate like an IPO instead of ICO.
If i have big budgets, i don't need an ICO, i can create my own company straight...

as far as i know, projects that are in scam accusations will get red trust no matter what happens.
legendary
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Where is your crypto bank registered? What is name of the company?
Indonesia. we are submitting legal docs soon. Please wait, it can take time.

Are you sure you want to register your company in Indonesia? Under what law you're applying if I may ask?

In singapore to create a company is called PTE LTD, every ICOs located in Singapore needs to have that.
i believe lots of icos is located there. U can give these ICOs red trust.

In Indonesia is called PT. In that case, pundiX is a scam too?

Then why don't you build a company in Singapore to run this ICO? Why did you want to register in Indonesia? I'm a bit surprised tbh that there's an ICO with a crytobank product in Indonesia because Indonesian government rules about ICO is not yet clear afaik.

PundiX, as far as I'm aware is not registered in Indonesia. They're registered in Isle of Man, according to this post.[1]

[1] https://medium.com/pundix/the-comprehensive-q-a-d0bc03977196
copper member
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Where is your crypto bank registered? What is name of the company?
Indonesia. we are submitting legal docs soon. Please wait, it can take time.

We need to finalize certain things before submitting all the legal docs.
Process is not easy.

Ok.. We can wait


~meanwhile preparing legal doc..~





Once it's on scam accusation, people will give us a red trust no matter if we are true?

Many are moving to altcoinstalks because of this.

We are tight on budget right now, + the market is already bad enough, why we can't submit later?
Does not mean we scam, our Whitepaper alone takes very long to be done.

i think its just coordinated attack on us!
Do you think all legit ICOs have legal docs on them? If you give us red trust, means you have to check every ICOs that they need to have legal docs. Because all ICOs, no matter its finance, needs to have legal docs. + it takes lots of money.
If it's like this, then i can give red trust to every ICOs because most do not even have legal docs on them.


In singapore to create a company is called PTE LTD, every ICOs located in Singapore needs to have that.
i believe lots of icos is located there. you can give these ICOs red trust.

In Indonesia is called PT. In that case, pundiX is a scam too?

Have you forgotten that all launched ICOs that have been funded successfully are securities? They all need legal docs.
Most don't even have any legal companies till now. In truth, they should be in jail for this.
We have not even been successfully funded and you keep accusing us.

This is already called IPO then, i thought this should be ICO?
If we have lots of capital to start with, we would not even do any ICO already. Why should i?

We have invested alot money and time into our website interface alone.
Please do consider the hard work we put in.

You can just give us red trust easily, but have you even put yourself in our shoes?
hero member
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Where is your crypto bank registered? What is name of the company?
Indonesia. we are submitting legal docs soon. Please wait, it can take time.

We need to finalize certain things before submitting all the legal docs.
Process is not easy.

Ok.. We can wait


~meanwhile preparing legal doc..~



legendary
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ok, maybe there is a communication problem.
She can directly say Yes and No.
Communication exist, just that sometimes there can be misunderstanding.
"We thought she is part of our project but it turned out she is not because some random internet person contacted her and she said she is not part of project"
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it's just unfair to accuse us
What is unfair? Your compliance director Shanique Adams said she is not part of this project. You, as creator of this project didn't know that, someone had to point it to you.

How serious this project can be if communication between team members doesn't exist and you don't know who works for you?

I need to photoshop Ben, because he gave me a long photo.

the website will give an odd photo. It needs to be square. + He gave me the photo. i just make it square.
"We have photoshopped senior-vice-president-chief-financial-officer's picture to fit in square"

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Where is your crypto bank registered? What is name of the company?

ok, maybe there is a communication problem.
She can directly say Yes and No.

How serious this project can be if communication between team members doesn't exist and you don't know who works for you?
Communication exist, just that sometimes there can be misunderstanding.

Where is your crypto bank registered? What is name of the company?
Indonesia. we are submitting legal docs soon. Please wait, it can take time.

We need to finalize certain things before submitting all the legal docs.
Process is not easy.


If you already do video conference with your FULL FACE. please share those video in this thread.
ok, it might take time.
legendary
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it's just unfair to accuse us
What is unfair? Your compliance director Shanique Adams said she is not part of this project. You, as creator of this project didn't know that, someone had to point it to you.

How serious this project can be if communication between team members doesn't exist and you don't know who works for you?

I need to photoshop Ben, because he gave me a long photo.

the website will give an odd photo. It needs to be square. + He gave me the photo. i just make it square.
"We have photoshopped senior-vice-president-chief-financial-officer's picture to fit in square"

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Where is your crypto bank registered? What is name of the company?
hero member
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aka JAGEND.

Number 3
Your Question :
what is wrong with u? So many haters.... or Are u just jealous and same like her, like to sabotage us? Love to see others fail?
and fyi, i have updated the website since few days ago! Look again, She is not included anymore. We have replaced her.
please do your homework first before accusing others!
Answering your question about this :
what is wrong with u? So many haters.... or Are u just jealous and same like her, like to sabotage us? Love to see others fail?
Mr President/CEO of zeosX.
While handling some hard question about your projects, handle it with proper and more professional.


ok.
very sorry, because it's just unfair to accuse us when we have put in a lot of effort into it.
We will handle this more professionally next time.
We are still learning.
+ it took us over 1 months alone to find a good team when starting.
We did not insult the OP.
If we did, then really sorry. We do apologize from the bottom of our heart.
Your welcome


~SNIP
Thanks already providing some of your screenshot conversations.


Ok. We will do that. Thanks for the input.
We are planning to build our subscriber counts first.
Thats why we create videos that will interest the investors first.
Can't wait.
If you already do video conference with your FULL FACE. please share those video in this thread.

hero member
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Number 2
why i cant update my website? to make it look better???
and one is home page and another one is team page! please fully research our website first also.

what is wrong with u? So many haters.... or Are u just jealous and same like her, like to sabotage us? Love to see others fail?
and fyi, i have updated the website since few days ago! Look again, She is not included anymore. We have replaced her.
please do your homework first before accusing others!

Answering your question about this :
why i cant update my website? to make it look better???
and one is home page and another one is team page! please fully research our website first also.


What I do next is doing clarification. Fyi, I hope i can have your full attention to this one.
My clarification was Jan, 18 2019 (as shown in pict)

~Read the rest OK~
hero member
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Number 1
Your Question :
I dont know why is she confused with all this.
I thought she already know because she bid on my ads.
i admit some of them did not do anything, like formal interview, to join my team at first, because i was planning to add them first to form a complete team, then consult them and even hire them later and pay them real salary whenever i need them if any problem arises, once the banking components have been completed, without putting anymore ads.
This is also to know whether they are in it for money or really believe in the project.

Here’s the answer :

copper member
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look at this guy's head:



it looks like you used photoshop to modify his head and I did not find anything about this guy








Source: https://www.theglobalmail.org/?p=6429


and on your site has this:

Rahul graduated with a Master’s Degree in Business Administration. He is an experienced manager with a deep passion...



Your project is very suspicious.

Edit

To add, you modified Rahul photo



ok, Ben, Patricia and Nabil gave me their photos. You can ask them.
I need to photoshop Ben's photo, https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-wellington-49569216b/ , because he gave me a long photo.

the website will give an odd photo. It needs to be square. And when he gave me the photo, I just make it square.

And Ben and Patricia are linkedIN premium members for many months already.
I did not photoshop Nabil and Patricia. They gave me their photos.

Rahul, he is the one who gave me. Please check the linkedIN first.
And i will remove him.


ok what i would say is that, for ICO investors, be careful of members that have prefect pictures.
Because not all members will cooperate. For me, those team that are complete and have perfect pictures usually don't have much experience, you can check their linkedIN profile, usually work at only 1 job, worst still, no elaboration of what they do. Usually based on my experience, they will do anything to join your company. It's easy for me to find these kind, and i don't need ads. I don't even need to take from any website and photoshop them.

but as i said, it will not be beneficial to my project. + I don't even know their experiences of what they can do.

I even persuaded some of my team members to give me a blur-less pic, for weeks then i can get, let alone a perfect one.
Because it's really not easy to find a member that have detailed linkedIN experience that will give u the prefect pictures.


One of the thing that I notice is that those two videos are just explanation of Zeos why not do what the other devs are doing, speaking in front a camera for us to see the real persons behind this project, investors want engagement and they want to see them speaking in front of the camera this is part of being a legit project since this is a crowdfunding.

Ok. We will do that. Thanks for the input.
We are planning to build our subscriber counts first.
Thats why we create videos that will interest the investors first.

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One of the thing that I notice is that those two videos are just explanation of Zeos why not do what the other devs are doing, speaking in front a camera for us to see the real persons behind this project, investors want engagement and they want to see them speaking in front of the camera this is part of being a legit project since this is a crowdfunding.
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