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November 30, 2022, 10:54:41 AM
Is KYC verification very important to crypto gambling websites or this has something to do with their regulations rule? Where can one gamble with zero verification requirements?
Employing KYC measures adds a safety layer for players and the gambling site altogether. This weeds out hackers as you would need to provide verification before you could cash the money out. And the gambling site in theory is saved from troubles caused by hackers as they are pushed away from the site. Of course with increasing amounts of complex algorithms and hacking methods hackers could now get a hold of your information as easy as picking their noses, although this isn't the case for everything. I think I went off into a tangent there but bottomline is, adding KYC measures makes you feel more secure about the gambling site, and it altogether helps ensure that no funds are stolen whatsoever on both ends.
legendary
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November 30, 2022, 07:54:49 AM

Well, this is something really debatable, for example, the case of Freebitco.in is a platform that breaks with certain standards, first, they do not request KYC and they handle large amounts of money in Bitcoin, second, they do not have a problem with their faucet, a person can spend as much time as necessary to be there they don't block you or anything, in fact you can withdraw when you reach the established minimum, and they do it without problems, so this is something that sometimes I don't understand about other sites that do have KYC verification, Sometimes I think that having certain games on the platform must be a requirement, just like slots, that's what I analyze, it's a simple assumption of mine.

It is very good that there is no KYC in this casino now, and players can easily withdraw their money. 

However, this does not mean at all that the same casino will suddenly not introduce KYC, when everyone is already used to the fact that it does not exist.  Of course, casinos without KYC attract a lot more players because people always don't like to verify their identity once and for all.  This takes time from the game and in the future in the event of a data leak (and many years of experience show that such leaks of personal data occur all the time, this is inevitable) also does not give anything good to a person, except for possible troubles.  But at the request of the authorities, legislators and regulatory authorities, casino developers can quite urgently and unexpectedly oblige to conduct KYC. 
And you should always be ready for it.
legendary
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November 29, 2022, 09:52:40 AM
and if a way to recover your account and funds is through has already done his KYC verification, the platform is forced to help that client who is totally legal with them, with a person who is totally anonymous, it is very difficult because the way to prove what is or is not is very difficult, with the documents is something else, it could be said that you can have a more preferential treatment and with more benefits, and it is not that people with KYC are more than the others, only that it is a way to make it easier.

I will like to assume that KYC should be required only on account recovery purpose, take a look at the forum for instance, you will be required to input a username, email and create your password in which the email will only be verified if there's a need for account verification during lost of login details or hack related issues, the casinos can also make use of this or something close to, they will definitely safe the user's privacy when they only demanded for his email address and of which he should have the password and phone number used in creating the email address before using it.

Well that is also a very valid option, I imagine that when they assume that KYC is requested it is because they think that the user could also have lost that information or if it was hacked, that can happen, if so they would only have to explain the matter and through of the KYC to determine that it is the owner of the account, of course this goes much further, it would be a very special case, but personally I still think that no casino likes the KYC for many of these reasons, but they feel obliged to they have to do it so that they do not lose their licenses or permits that are required of them, if there is a lack of licenses, then some players will not play with confidence and the authenticity of the casino will be put in suspense.

I want to ask don't you think that some of the platforms that does not have a kyc verification do not crash in time or do not have a problem after making a payment because I see again twice irrigations and something that is very meaningful and important to learn every gampola program was having a zero kyc verification I think that counts cause a very big problem and i think will cause a problem in time coming
Casino that choose to not have a KYC can have a big problem later with lots of complains. I will rather choose a less required KYC casinos so that in case I have may problem or my account got hacked, I can be able to resolve it without bigger problem which can be very easy for us than casinos that will take serious time to help you solve your problem because of no KYC.
Any casino that does not have a kyc verification now casino platform is supposed to be far from because sometimes it is something that makes some people to lose their money or something certain platforms run away with some papers for me because I have no licence of operation so I believe that all this kyc verification is very important

Well, this is something really debatable, for example, the case of Freebitco.in is a platform that breaks with certain standards, first, they do not request KYC and they handle large amounts of money in Bitcoin, second, they do not have a problem with their faucet, a person can spend as much time as necessary to be there they don't block you or anything, in fact you can withdraw when you reach the established minimum, and they do it without problems, so this is something that sometimes I don't understand about other sites that do have KYC verification, Sometimes I think that having certain games on the platform must be a requirement, just like slots, that's what I analyze, it's a simple assumption of mine.
legendary
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November 29, 2022, 07:16:18 AM
Any casino that does not have a kyc verification now casino platform is supposed to be far from because sometimes it is something that makes some people to lose their money or something certain platforms run away with some papers for me because I have no licence of operation so I believe that all this kyc verification is very important
Not really, Freebitco.in is zero KYC casino and still exist until now, don't forget they have a promotion to give a lambo to one lucky winner. They're not lying and always do their promise, so even though Freebitco.in doesn't have any license, it's the most trusted zero KYC casino.

Unlike the site you promote that doesn't have any license and zero KYC too, but the activities is just trick the newbies to make deposit and then block their withdrawal, the money is used for the team profit and the signature campaign payment lol.
hero member
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November 29, 2022, 06:37:01 AM
All gamblers can choose a gambling platform without any requirements related to identity or the casino has followed the requirements of the regulator, but we are talking about data protection and fair play, then if you find a casino that is completely anonymous and meets both criteria then it's your decision, but many top casinos must follow the rules of the regulations but not strictly require KYC for all users but only for high withdrawals, high wins, suspected money laundering and others.
That's true because as gamblers who don't want to do KYC, we have freedom in choosing the casino. If, later on, the casino asks us to do KYC on our way to gamble, we can move to another casino that doesn't ask us to do KYC. Besides that, I'm sure those of us who have been playing gambling for a long time must have had many casino choices that don't require KYC to be made on their users. But if we are fine with doing KYC on the casino site we use, we can do it immediately if the casino asks for it.
But what if you already have a balance on that gambling site and suddenly you are being asked to do a KYC? I think it's hard to decide on this one if we will just leave our funds on that casino and find another non KYC casino or we will swallow our pride and took the challenge. This is usually the case that happens. I think this one is not fair.

A professional casino should warn their costumers before they deposit or play if KYC is needed later on or not so that the people can decide if they will continue or not. Your long term experience in gambling has nothing to do with the casino that ask a KYC or not because their policy can always change.
I will first ask customer service if I can withdraw the balance in my account or do I have to go through the KYC process until I get verification, then I can withdraw the balance. If I am asked to do KYC verification before withdrawing the balance, I may do KYC but I will think about it first.

If the balance is not too big or even just a small balance, I will leave it in that balance but if it is a rather large balance, like it or not, I have to do KYC first. We know that KYC will be needed later so we have to be prepared when it comes and for that, we don't need to keep a balance that is too big so we can leave the casino straight away if we don't want to do KYC.
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November 28, 2022, 05:35:46 PM
I want to ask don't you think that some of the platforms that does not have a kyc verification do not crash in time or do not have a problem after making a payment because I see again twice irrigations and something that is very meaningful and important to learn every gampola program was having a zero kyc verification I think that counts cause a very big problem and i think will cause a problem in time coming
Casino that choose to not have a KYC can have a big problem later with lots of complains. I will rather choose a less required KYC casinos so that in case I have may problem or my account got hacked, I can be able to resolve it without bigger problem which can be very easy for us than casinos that will take serious time to help you solve your problem because of no KYC.
Any casino that does not have a kyc verification now casino platform is supposed to be far from because sometimes it is something that makes some people to lose their money or something certain platforms run away with some papers for me because I have no licence of operation so I believe that all this kyc verification is very important
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November 28, 2022, 05:22:59 PM
I want to ask don't you think that some of the platforms that does not have a kyc verification do not crash in time or do not have a problem after making a payment because I see again twice irrigations and something that is very meaningful and important to learn every gampola program was having a zero kyc verification I think that counts cause a very big problem and i think will cause a problem in time coming
Casino that choose to not have a KYC can have a big problem later with lots of complains. I will rather choose a less required KYC casinos so that in case I have may problem or my account got hacked, I can be able to resolve it without bigger problem which can be very easy for us than casinos that will take serious time to help you solve your problem because of no KYC.
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November 28, 2022, 04:17:08 PM
I want to ask don't you think that some of the platforms that does not have a kyc verification do not crash in time or do not have a problem after making a payment because I see again twice irrigations and something that is very meaningful and important to learn every gampola program was having a zero kyc verification I think that counts cause a very big problem and i think will cause a problem in time coming
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November 28, 2022, 03:55:34 PM
KYC has become a major part of our life that we can not deviate from, even to operate fairly with cryptocurrency one still need to undergo some form of KYC which makes it impossible to do without.
But then a lot of other privacy-minded users will rather play on only none KYC casinos but we have only a few of such 100% KYC-free casinos since regulations are climbing down on them.

KYC was never part of our life, it was implemented and forced on financial institutions to weed out laundering money but we all know that for every merit, there are one or two demerits, however, in the case of KYC, the Demerits outweighed the merits and if you start from the beginning of this thread, that is what most users has been discussing. We can do without KYC, it shouldn't be forced on people who don't want to, if the regulators fear that there will be some sort of criminalities in crypto casinos, it happens everywhere even with the banks.

KYC shouldn't be compulsory or a prerequisite to playing in Casino, they could at most make some limit to funds and may make it mandatory for players who wants to incase a player deposits money they suspected, if they lift these things, it will not only increase players, it increases revenues for casinos.
legendary
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November 28, 2022, 03:31:54 PM
All gamblers can choose a gambling platform without any requirements related to identity or the casino has followed the requirements of the regulator, but we are talking about data protection and fair play, then if you find a casino that is completely anonymous and meets both criteria then it's your decision, but many top casinos must follow the rules of the regulations but not strictly require KYC for all users but only for high withdrawals, high wins, suspected money laundering and others.
That's true because as gamblers who don't want to do KYC, we have freedom in choosing the casino. If, later on, the casino asks us to do KYC on our way to gamble, we can move to another casino that doesn't ask us to do KYC. Besides that, I'm sure those of us who have been playing gambling for a long time must have had many casino choices that don't require KYC to be made on their users. But if we are fine with doing KYC on the casino site we use, we can do it immediately if the casino asks for it.
But what if you already have a balance on that gambling site and suddenly you are being asked to do a KYC? I think it's hard to decide on this one if we will just leave our funds on that casino and find another non KYC casino or we will swallow our pride and took the challenge. This is usually the case that happens. I think this one is not fair.

A professional casino should warn their costumers before they deposit or play if KYC is needed later on or not so that the people can decide if they will continue or not. Your long term experience in gambling has nothing to do with the casino that ask a KYC or not because their policy can always change.

better read thoroughly the ToS of the site if you are depositing large funds later on. submission of kyc is needed when you have large winnings or they notice unusual activity in your account. to avoid such problem to happen, stick to the terms of the site and as much as possible don't give reasons to the site to check your account to the point of requiring kyc because you have irregular activity or you have done something that caught their eyes.
legendary
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November 28, 2022, 03:14:22 PM
All gamblers can choose a gambling platform without any requirements related to identity or the casino has followed the requirements of the regulator, but we are talking about data protection and fair play, then if you find a casino that is completely anonymous and meets both criteria then it's your decision, but many top casinos must follow the rules of the regulations but not strictly require KYC for all users but only for high withdrawals, high wins, suspected money laundering and others.
That's true because as gamblers who don't want to do KYC, we have freedom in choosing the casino. If, later on, the casino asks us to do KYC on our way to gamble, we can move to another casino that doesn't ask us to do KYC. Besides that, I'm sure those of us who have been playing gambling for a long time must have had many casino choices that don't require KYC to be made on their users. But if we are fine with doing KYC on the casino site we use, we can do it immediately if the casino asks for it.
But what if you already have a balance on that gambling site and suddenly you are being asked to do a KYC? I think it's hard to decide on this one if we will just leave our funds on that casino and find another non KYC casino or we will swallow our pride and took the challenge. This is usually the case that happens. I think this one is not fair.

A professional casino should warn their costumers before they deposit or play if KYC is needed later on or not so that the people can decide if they will continue or not. Your long term experience in gambling has nothing to do with the casino that ask a KYC or not because their policy can always change.
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November 28, 2022, 10:17:09 AM
Is KYC verification very important to crypto gambling websites or this has something to do with their regulations rule? Where can one gamble with zero verification requirements?
Nowadays it is difficult to choose a gambling casino that does not require KYC. They have policies under which they will operate. Despite the fact that we will be faced with policies, it is increasingly difficult to avoid KYC in gambling because of the large cash flow. However, crypto casinos are still said to be tolerant of their users, i.e. they only require KYC if any action is detected against the rules. Therefore, you just need to be good at filtering which casinos will at least make you feel a little bit unencumbered by KYC.

You're right but in addition to that, they can require for kyc at any point in time regardless of weather you break the rules or not, that is why they are categorized under KYC casinos, if you don't want to have this kind of request for KYC in present or future time to come, then try to choose a crypto casino that has no requirement for KYC and ensure that you're right with your assumption on their trust to be a KYC free casino, but what we should ask about those involved in demanding for KYC is that, does it ends the means to all manner of abuse with money laundering and crime rates that have been dealing with the presently.
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November 28, 2022, 10:04:59 AM
Is KYC verification very important to crypto gambling websites or this has something to do with their regulations rule? Where can one gamble with zero verification requirements?
Nowadays it is difficult to choose a gambling casino that does not require KYC. They have policies under which they will operate. Despite the fact that we will be faced with policies, it is increasingly difficult to avoid KYC in gambling because of the large cash flow. However, crypto casinos are still said to be tolerant of their users, i.e. they only require KYC if any action is detected against the rules. Therefore, you just need to be good at filtering which casinos will at least make you feel a little bit unencumbered by KYC.
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November 28, 2022, 08:15:34 AM
KYC has become a major part of our life that we can not deviate from, even to operate fairly with cryptocurrency one still need to undergo some form of KYC which makes it impossible to do without.
But then a lot of other privacy-minded users will rather play on only none KYC casinos but we have only a few of such 100% KYC-free casinos since regulations are climbing down on them.
legendary
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November 28, 2022, 08:08:14 AM
You brought to mind a tweet I saw today about phone numbers being sold on the dark web, which stresses the importance of personal documents and information. The majority of those phone numbers are associated with various people all over the world, so I couldn't help but wonder what bad actors could do with them.

criminals have many skills, they can use someone's phone number to commit crimes, I've seen it in the news where criminals take many phone numbers from various people and then send messages to these people making threats, blackmail in return the victim pay money to them, also these criminals can clone people's phone numbers and commit many crimes, I'm particularly always afraid to give my phone number on websites

Back to documents and KYC in casinos: a reputable casino would take all reasonable precautions to protect player data and funds, but let's be honest with ourselves: if you complete KYC at any casino and they decide to sell your information at some point, you will never know and you won't suspect them because you are accustomed to disclosing personal information to the public, we should learn to normalized No KYC.

well, it's true that the biggest problem with doing KYC in casinos is precisely the danger of them selling our data, and these new casinos are more dangerous because they may have created casinos just to steal people's money and if they create casinos to steal people's money so they are greedy and will not feel that they shouldn't sell people's documents, they will definitely not think twice to sell people's documents, I don't do KYC in new casinos, I only do KYC in old casinos and that are very reliable, for example I only did KYC at stake.com and not at other casinos

If everything turns out to be okay then i dont think there should be any problem.They key here is that you should really know and choose up gambling sites
which are reputable or known.

I agree, that's why you need to avoid doing KYC in new casinos until the casino shows that they can be trusted and that is something that takes a long time for a casino to manage to have a good reputation and be reliable, for example, these days here on the forum they appeared 2 new casinos that have asked for KYC and these two casinos that appeared here on the forum have a high indication of being scam
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November 28, 2022, 07:33:36 AM
Although, we do have still casinos nowadays which are fully anonymous and can be trusted.This is why as a gambler then we do still have some options
whether we do comply with those KYC-ed sites or would really be sticking into those anonymous ones.
All gamblers can choose a gambling platform without any requirements related to identity or the casino has followed the requirements of the regulator, but we are talking about data protection and fair play, then if you find a casino that is completely anonymous and meets both criteria then it's your decision, but many top casinos must follow the rules of the regulations but not strictly require KYC for all users but only for high withdrawals, high wins, suspected money laundering and others.
That's true because as gamblers who don't want to do KYC, we have freedom in choosing the casino. If, later on, the casino asks us to do KYC on our way to gamble, we can move to another casino that doesn't ask us to do KYC. Besides that, I'm sure those of us who have been playing gambling for a long time must have had many casino choices that don't require KYC to be made on their users. But if we are fine with doing KYC on the casino site we use, we can do it immediately if the casino asks for it.
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November 27, 2022, 05:36:16 PM
Although, we do have still casinos nowadays which are fully anonymous and can be trusted.This is why as a gambler then we do still have some options
whether we do comply with those KYC-ed sites or would really be sticking into those anonymous ones.
All gamblers can choose a gambling platform without any requirements related to identity or the casino has followed the requirements of the regulator, but we are talking about data protection and fair play, then if you find a casino that is completely anonymous and meets both criteria then it's your decision, but many top casinos must follow the rules of the regulations but not strictly require KYC for all users but only for high withdrawals, high wins, suspected money laundering and others.
And this is where people or do should really know the importance on reading up terms and conditions of a particular site or platform.Its true that casinos nowadays doesnt really ask out for some

verification on the time you do make out some registration or on the time that you do make out withdrawal.Some are just asking out whenever you do withdraw huge amounts or
they do able to get or notice out some suspicious behavior or betting on gamblers side.

If everything turns out to be okay then i dont think there should be any problem.They key here is that you should really know and choose up gambling sites
which are reputable or known.
legendary
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November 27, 2022, 05:10:23 PM
Here’s some list that will trigger alarm for Casino security to impose KYC on account and at the same time things that will limit user to experience on casino:
  • They are not allowed to win huge amount or jackpot prize
  • Playing only with small amount and manage to win most of the time
  • Use of VPN
  • Multiple deposit from different address

All the points you mentioned seem valid and reasonable and may indeed trigger the ant-cheat mechanism, except the last one.
For crypto deposits/withdrawals it's so common to use different addresses so I don't think casinos will consider it as a suspecious activity.
However, depositing/withdrawing from/to the same address into/from different accounts is.

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Much better to play on decentralized casino that doesn’t require KYC rather than risk playing on casino that has a threat on doing it.
Can you name some of those decentralized casinos. I'm interested and want to give them a try.
hero member
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November 27, 2022, 04:19:50 PM
Although, we do have still casinos nowadays which are fully anonymous and can be trusted.This is why as a gambler then we do still have some options
whether we do comply with those KYC-ed sites or would really be sticking into those anonymous ones.
All gamblers can choose a gambling platform without any requirements related to identity or the casino has followed the requirements of the regulator, but we are talking about data protection and fair play, then if you find a casino that is completely anonymous and meets both criteria then it's your decision, but many top casinos must follow the rules of the regulations but not strictly require KYC for all users but only for high withdrawals, high wins, suspected money laundering and others.
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November 27, 2022, 03:28:16 PM
If you want to transact in a reputable casino freely, better comply with the KYC so you won't have any trouble whenever you deposit or withdraw huge funds.

This is true but nevertheless that is only applicable to those KYC required casinos that will always need that for their user verification, but in other way round we still have some zero KYC casinos which does not require all the unnecessary proofs before you can enjoy their services except if the gambler does not know any.

I was also hesitant in submitting my details just to comply with the KYC requirements but I felt relieved because I was able to access all the features on the site and won't have issues whenever I withdraw and deposit my funds regardless of the amount. I think it all depends on the casino.

Truly we have casinos differences but nevertheless this same casino can decide to come up with that at any point in time wince they aren't zero KYC required casino, others have been doing this same thing but I wish you don't wait till the date you will be denied some features when KYC is required before you take a drastic step.

If you want to make sure that your details are safe, make sure to choose a highly trusted and reputable casino.

Or preferably a zero KYC tolerance casino.
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