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Topic: ZeroCash: 2nd gen with anonymization starting from the coinbase transaction (Read 15276 times)

legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
still not released?
legendary
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legendary
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well, they recently added a new url:

zca.sh
legendary
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Is Zerocash still being developed?

I assume that Green's lab is working on it. This is academia, everything takes a year or two longer than people think it will.
legendary
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Watching and waiting for launch.

This is going to be one of the more notable coins to come out.

The BitLicences uncertainty will be an issue for the developers. They have connections outside the USA, so I would recommend they launch outside US borders.

Is Zerocash still being developed?
legendary
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Watching and waiting for launch.

This is going to be one of the more notable coins to come out.

The BitLicences uncertainty will be an issue for the developers. They have connections outside the USA, so I would recommend they launch outside US borders.
hero member
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I can't wait until this is released. I think it will be released in January 2015. Just a guess.
member
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I have been waiting for this coin to come out for what seems like ages but recently I heard a rumour that since the developers are all well known, they might be scared off by the US govt. Obviously the powers that be would not want something like this coming out.

Same goes for Dark Wallet - I heard their web site was taken down for a while due to their involvement with encryption and privacy. It's back now but don't forget what happened to Lavabit and Truecrypt. There are forces actively working against anything involving encryption and privacy.

I do hope we hear more about what's going on with Zerocash soon!
newbie
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By not opening up the source, these guys are gonna fuck up bigtime. I believe there is in fact a level of control they're intending on exercising over ZeroCash that is unwholesome and repellant to adoption. They need to open it up *immediately* upon release. The code needs to be scrutinized heavily by a community of tens of thousands if it's ever going to get any traction at all. Forget about opening it up at "some later time when it's ready". You see, by "ready", they mean when it's already gained sufficient enough usage as to decrease the chances of adoption of a superior implementation using their algos.

Sneaky, sneaky, sneaky and it's gonna bite them in the fucking cock if they proceed in that greedy, counterproductive manner.
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xfr
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Basically it's a clone of Pinocchio
The zkSNARKs sound fancy but no real improvement over the previous EC pairing commitments
full member
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Can we get a little more succinct info that summarizes that dude's extensive diatribe?
sr. member
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Now that the paper is published, I am curious if someone could answer a question about the setup of the initial zerocash parameters and trusted third parties.

Concerning the original zerocoin paper (which is supposed to be implemented in Anoncoin), it has been noted that the initial setup could be done using RSA-UFOs, without trusted third parties. Before the zerocash paper came out, the Anoncoin developers claimed that this could not be done with zerocash. Is this still true? Given the similarity in the original zerocoin and zerocash approaches, it is not immediately obvious why this would be the case.

newbie
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newbie
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Quote
We'll be presenting our Zerocash paper on Tuesday at the IEEE S&P (Oakland) conference in San Jose. Full paper & website up next week.

https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/465963763028340736
hero member
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Can you explain it more clearly?
I just want to know more about it .
Maybe it is a good coin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7LSSE0bRRo

He says that it's better than other previous ideas that required a centralized bank to anonymize and mint coins... then he says that his coin needs a "trusted party" to generate public keys and that it's not open source.

scam Jewcoin


What the meaning of "trusted party" .
I think the trusted party is a centralized bank.

Trusted party is someone that isn't you (or your ZeroCoin client), and since the project is not open source then you will have to trust your key to whoever this guy decides these "trusted parties" are going to be.

This is a centralized coin in disguise.

Yea this coin is garbs.
legendary
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This will apparently be made open-source at some future date, "when it's ready". It wont be proprietary. Not, at least, according to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7LSSE0bRRo

The main problem is the trustability of the keys. Maybe they could figure out a way to make the keys trustless.
hero member
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More explanation of Zerocash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXU65XsLiFk#t=605

This is how I figured it worked. In fact, I had recently figured out that Pinnochio could be used with hashes and a hash accumulator. So they implemented it.
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