Topic: Ziber.io is a scam! DO NOT INVEST!! Now CONFIRMED! Doors are now closed - HAHAHA - page 4. (Read 6418 times)

Okay, "We are developers", explain the following ...

https://github.com/ZiberLTD/contracts/blob/master/smartcontract_dev/ico/ZiberCrowdsale.sol

/// @dev Owner can withdraw contract funds
  function withdraw() public onlyOwner {
    // Transfer funds to the team wallet
    owner.transfer(this.balance);
  }

The above was supplied to me by an astute user since I'm not a code, he informing me that the above code possibly allows Team Ziber to extract the funds themselves sans reaching any threshold.

Good evening,

I represent smartcontracteam developers

And I would like to give some explanations

1. Yes, we wrote a contract for ziber
2. We are developers and not hackers
3. The ziber addressed us and said that they needed the contract as soon as possible as a result, we postponed our affairs and made them a contract.
4. We warned the zeeber that the contract should be tested and audited to third-party developers
5. we did not deploy a contract in homestead, we dont have any access to ziber server or site
6. We warned the zeber that keeping money on the contract is not safe and it is necessary to immediately send them to the owner's wallet as make 99% crowdsale contracts, ziber dont agree with it and ask create withdraw method
7. we do not think that the money brought ziber, but we believe that there was a disorganization in testing the contract and was not able to make a qualitative audit
8. we realize that for us this is a huge reputation shock and we apologize for agreeing to do it in a hurry


This is all that we can say, we will not give any comments here if anyone has questions ready to respond in a PM

The actual vulnerability isn't the one stated in the announcement made by Ziber user.

The attacker firstly restarted the Crowdsale by calling the Crowdsale function
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x21d1093cd6014d8ed543c1d8e9f72f904284fb77aaa9296a1f792b745f2785a1
as we see in the Crowdsale function which can be called by anyone the owner becomes the person who is calling the function, pretty simple hack, lol.

function Crowdsale(address _token, uint _start) {
    require(_token != 0);
    require(_start != 0);

    owner = msg.sender;
    token = ZiberToken(_token);
    startsAt = _start;
  }

then just a call to Withdraw function (https://etherscan.io/tx/0xb7f0d837a10028271d7177e86b595b266302f1bc65c9db5cd7a6d48740c2c4de) and there goes 1000 ether

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20425804

Over a decade ago after Chantha Owen Lueung got permanently banned from trading securities in the US due to fraud, he started an entity billed as one that will takeover Facebook. That entity is on its third iteration now known as Crypto-city with Owen having Leroy Fodor and Michael Zinck as business partners, Leroy being the dude who Ziber quotes in bringing cred to his brand. Talk about doing due diligence, Ziber didn't perform any when opting to go that route, resulting in further lack of trust in spite of still-trying-to-decode their sage's words "Trust means being able to predict what other people will do and what situations will occur."

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cyberpinoy-338432

 You need to fuck off, all proper-like, and get AIDS.

You did use the correct address, but you did not interact with the contract.

I did small transaction but now it have (!). Money was gone.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0xe14f4b072a235e3de89a21eaa454ed6a1996492c778f6bfa8254c616a81aebfc

If its not scam, what happen to the address with the contract?

From the page: https://ziber.io/

This is how the website used to look like:
http://i.imgur.com/b9ki5kN.png

Now it looks like this:
http://i.imgur.com/4fvmyXm.png


So, on the first, it links to this, where we have a smart contract
https://etherscan.io/address/0xf0a924661b0263e5ce12756d07f45b8668c53380

while now, it points to this, without a contract
https://etherscan.io/address/0x00C8835DD3A46c7Fc8C8DD7243c3f9f17d29FC46

Is it me, or is this a bit fishy?

Gleb has a record of busting  scam ICO's in the past and he continues to do so.He has successfully predicted the unfair businesses and warned the community about the same before the project turned to a scam.With those trust ratings and personal attacks on Gleb,seems like you have known them in the past and most possibly for them busting one of your scam ICO's.
I'll take his word for it,you are a scam.

Famous as skype ? Is that suppose to be your promotional slogan ? Next time get people who can at least present their company as professionally as the can,helps the company to stand away from the obvious scams.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20410156  - check time please


Greetings everyone!

Here are many detective stories' fans and soap opera lovers. I want to tell you one detective soap opera story too...

From the very beginning our project Ziber refused from using Bounty as a way to draw more attention to the project. We decided that it will be better to create a really working product in advance and let all the rest speak for us. We have visited 2 conferences in London - CryptoFinancing 2017 and Fintechweek on July 13. At these events we were greeted with a warm welcome and understanding.
At the same time we started to send emails to various news websites and projects doing ICO listings, in order to tell people about us. Also we tried to contact tokenmarket.net many times, but we didn't get any response at all. (Please pay attention to this point)

Everything was going well until a massive harassment campaign began, targeting us. It started from this post:
  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20304037
"Hi
Just to clarify: the cofounder and CEO of TokenMarket is Ransu Salovaara
Thank you"
 
And simultaneously with it there was made a screenshot of this message and an unknown person published it in the Telegram chat icocountdown, with the comment "Ziber Scam". After that just a little time has passed before several people started to attack us on the forum by writing negative reviews, they willing to tear me to pieces for a single inaccurate word.
I gave them a link to our presentation - they say it is fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ
I gave them a link to our programmers (known since 2014) - they say it is also fake. https://www.microsip.org/
I gave them a link to our github profile where we have published the source code recently (note that the code was under development in private since 2016!) - and they were not

even able to compile the fully working code! And they say again that it is fake! https://github.com/ZiberLTD

So, what is the "cause" of claims?

Our website introduces several Ziber Team members:
Michael Cordy, as a Co-Founder and CEO Tokenmarket
Mark Braun, as a Founder and CEO
Michael Kaufman, as a Co-Founder and CTO
Jason White, as a Co-Founder Operations and Business.

Michael Cordy has came up with the "CEO Tokenmarket" title by himself, it was meant as a "CEO of Token marketing" and has nothing to do with the tokenmarket.net.
However it became a reason for accusing us of fraud, stating that we have intentionally used the "Tokenmarket.net" name. (Kinda dodgy enterprise I'd say, will tell why below)

If Tokenmarket.net did not like this ambiguous title they could just send us the email and we would fix this misunderstanding immediately. Instead of it they started a targeted harassment campaign with the help of professional trolls, haters, hacked and newly registered accounts.
However I could not claim that all the haters that were against us are fake - it is very likely that normal users could succumb to the influence of such a manipulator as Tokenmarket.net.
 
Let's dig deeper - why would Tokenmarket.net attack us? What is the root cause?

And the reason is: https://www.dentcoin.com – the idea is similar to Ziber, but they sell p2p traffic instead of voice calls.
The start of their fundraising program accidentally coincided with the Ziber project launch. And they gathered only 21k ETH from the planned 180k. Many people seem to decide to wait and invest their money into a really working product with the real people behind it!
So I think that we have ruined their ICO. Because we have presented more versatile product which is already implemented and can be used right away, while they will have to spend time to implement their product. This caused the hatred and the desire of revenge. To drive us out from the market and destroy us. And they chose very dirty ways to do it.


What is the Tokenmarket.net?

LATO: Liquidity Asset Token  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20051508
Exchange Union Coin: Bridging Digital Currency Exchanges Globally  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20204617
Topic: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20
And lots of others. Most of these projects don't have a working product! And their teams have never appeared anywhere in the public! It is most likely that Tokenmarket.net

creates all these projects itself, as even the CMS of many projects' websites is the same.
The only goal of these projects is to raise as much funds as possible!
Undoubtedly they take well-known projects and mask own nefarious purposes under them.
 
That's why they got so mad at us. Because we, the young team previously unknown to anyone here, suddenly appeared and ruined their ICO of Dentcoin. And we ruined it not by a heinous lies and intrigues but by presenting the quality product!

Who these trolls/manipulators are?

The major representative of the haters crowd is misterbones. Let's take a closer look at his messages:

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  rise
  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18330471
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation: 0,004647 $
Price now: 0,077573 $


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  Humaniq
  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18552426
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,071905 $
Price now:0,163951 $

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  Cryptoforecast
  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18596414
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,020473 $
Price now:0,17814$

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His predictions come exactly the opposite - projects described as scam by misterbones in fact raise tenfold.


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Gleb Gamov

1. Gleb stole the identity of a deceased person, Bruno, and posts everywhere the photo with a paper. Later the information appears that he was arrested for driving without a

license, also he has confirmed that he was convicted of rape of 14 years old girl.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10987160


2. Gleb has third account. This Gamov has scammed someone, and later got scammed himself as far as I understand.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gleb-gamow-bruno-kucinskas-is-a-scammer-a-thief-a-liar-and-an-extortionist-1012713

3. a few more of his cases + his message about the racketeering by Bruno.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gleb-gamow-bruno-kucinskas-is-a-scammer-a-thief-a-liar-and-an-extortionist-1012713


4. again about the racketeering, and advices on how to counter this Gamov, i.e. act like he does, collect any information possible, make screenshots, etc.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gleb-gamow-bruno-kucinskas-is-a-scammer-a-thief-a-liar-and-an-extortionist-1012713


5. Leroy accused of scamming here. Someone paid to him and Gamov wrote that he is a scammer. Before that there were no single negative comment about Leroy - the claims were completely made up.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gleb-gamow-bruno-kucinskas-is-a-scammer-a-thief-a-liar-and-an-extortionist-1012713

6. about another Bruno's account. This man wrote that he is a paid troll, fouls up any project.
https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html

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I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself!

We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time!