ZIGGAP.com - CHEAPEST cash deposit in the USA .

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Quote from: EPiSKiNG on April 24, 2013, 10:16:48 AM

Quote from: m4ttanderson on April 24, 2013, 07:22:55 AM

And as per usual the site is gone and replaced by nothing - http://ziggap.com/

Yeah... It's unfortunate... It was a great service.... If you're in the USA: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trusted-buyerseller-buyingselling-btc-500-5k-usa-only-172982

-EP

LOL Most services are tailored for Europeans or the North American region.

Imagine opening it up to the Asian / Oceanic region. The Asian region alone would potentially dwarf customers from Europe / Americas (There's 1Billion Chinese for starters).

None of this high fee b/s for transferring money, we all know it costs next to nothing to do this. It's 1s and 0s!

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Quote from: m4ttanderson on April 24, 2013, 07:22:55 AM

And as per usual the site is gone and replaced by nothing - http://ziggap.com/

Yeah... It's unfortunate... It was a great service.... If you're in the USA: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trusted-buyerseller-buyingselling-btc-500-5k-usa-only-172982

-EP

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And as per usual the site is gone and replaced by nothing - http://ziggap.com/

kayrice

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He is right it's not fraud for your situation. You are buying and selling goods to each other and each have a clear expectation. The buyer expects to receive a specific amount of BTC and you the seller expect to receive a specific amount of USD. That's the agreement and he's not defrauding you in any way by connecting from anywhere because you've not made any explicit requirement of the deal that you need to know his location.

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These guys do Australia too eh? I wonder how their rates compare...

-EP

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Quote from: Stephen Gornick on January 30, 2013, 08:02:50 PM

Quote from: ZIGGAP on January 29, 2013, 10:57:52 PM

We don't condone people intentionally masking their true location, as it's a form of fraud and can be used for illicit reasons.

The term fraud has very specific meaning and I'm going to assume you are misunderstanding that meaning. By transacting using Tor or a VPN to protect my privacy is not something that violates your terms of service (at least not my preliminary reading of it). Even if it did though, that is not the definitioin of fraud.

I think he meant that they might be able to use Tor to pretend that they're in another location.

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Quote from: ZIGGAP on January 29, 2013, 10:57:52 PM

We don't condone people intentionally masking their true location, as it's a form of fraud and can be used for illicit reasons.

The term fraud has very specific meaning and I'm going to assume you are misunderstanding that meaning. Transacting using Tor or a VPN to protect my privacy is not something that violates your terms of service (at least not my preliminary reading of it). Even if it did though, that is not the definitioin of fraud.

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ZIGGAP.com is now offering PoliPay!

What is PoliPay?

PoliPay is a way for residents of Australia to pay merchants and bills via irreversible bank transfers.

How do I use PoliPay?

First, go to ZIGGAP.com. If you're logging in from an Australian location you will be presented with 4 payment options - Click the one that says PoliPay. Click next and follow the step-by-step on screen instructions.

If you have any problems do not hesitate to click the support button on the left side and ask for help. We're here for you 7 days a week.

How fast do I get my coins?

PoliPay transactions are nearly instant. On average you can expect your Bitcoin in about 3 hours.

You're still reading? What are you waiting for? Go to ZIGGAP.com place your order today!

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Quote from: kayrice on January 29, 2013, 11:50:46 PM

Two quick questions I cannot find answers to on your website:

What is the fee? It appears you adjust the BTC price up, which I like the presentation of and is easy for me to decide how much to buy, but I don't know your fees without doing some algebra and comparing the price to other exchanges
What is the process after deposit? Yesterday I used BitMe for the first time and discovered late in the process that I would have to scan a picture of the receipt in. This was not possible to know until late in the process and is the main reason I won't be using BitMe again if I can avoid it.

The fee depends upon which payment method you use. Cash transactions in the USA are charged at 3.2% while cash transactions in Australia are at 7.5%. Our credit card offering will most likely be in the 6-8% range depending upon a number of factors.

Right now we don't require a receipt.

kayrice

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Two quick questions I cannot find answers to on your website:

What is the fee? It appears you adjust the BTC price up, which I like the presentation of and is easy for me to decide how much to buy, but I don't know your fees without doing some algebra and comparing the price to other exchanges
What is the process after deposit? Yesterday I used BitMe for the first time and discovered late in the process that I would have to scan a picture of the receipt in. This was not possible to know until late in the process and is the main reason I won't be using BitMe again if I can avoid it.

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Quote from: Stephen Gornick on January 29, 2013, 10:43:08 PM

Quote from: ZIGGAP on January 29, 2013, 10:24:16 PM

We use the location of your IP address to show you the offerings that are available to your location.

That means that those attempting to access your site using Tor or VPN will oftentimes be unable to use your service.

We're aware of this and it's temporary. We don't condone people intentionally masking their true location, as it's a form of fraud and can be used for illicit reasons. However we're know that there are instances which a person's true location is misrepresented to us for other reasons such as being on a work VPN, on vacation, on satellite connections, and so forth. We're working on an alternate method of selecting payment options.

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Quote from: ZIGGAP on January 29, 2013, 10:24:16 PM

We use the location of your IP address to show you the offerings that are available to your location.

That means that those attempting to access your site using Tor or VPN will oftentimes be unable to use your service.

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Quote from: TangibleCryptography on January 29, 2013, 10:25:26 PM

...If you want to have an irreversible transaction from your desk you need to use a bank wire. ... There will never be another solution.

You may be right, but I don't think so. I predict that by January 29, 2014 I will be able to buy bitcoins from my desk by sending USD via ACH.

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Quote from: coqui33 on January 29, 2013, 06:09:34 PM

The problem is that the bank cannot do what you describe unless I am physically present at the bank in the flesh. If I tried it by fax, email, or snail-mail, they fear that I could deny that I ever sent the withdrawal authorization, thereby ripping Chase off.

That is what makes it irreversible. That is what makes it useful. If you want to have an irreversible transaction from your desk you need to use a bank wire.

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As I implied above, the solution is not yet here, but I expect that the whole clumsy interface between slick 21st-C bitcoins, and sluggish 14th-C banking procedures will sort itself out in coming years.

There will never be another solution. Banks don't like irreversible. When hackers mass hack tens of thousands of accounts and funnel hundreds of millions in "irreversible" transactions the bank will have to eat the cost. Bank wires are the "solution". Generally users have to specifically ask for bank wire access and many banks require 2FA for online bank wires.

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Quote from: Stephen Gornick on January 29, 2013, 10:20:19 PM

Quote from: ZIGGAP on January 28, 2013, 11:00:15 PM

ZIGGAP is currently accepting these payment methods:

Cash deposit at:

[...]
National Australia Bank (NAB - AUS)

Does the site render different based on where it is accessed from? I don't see either the OKPay or the NAB cash deposit methods.

Yes it does. We use the location of your IP address to show you the offerings that are available to your location. OKPay isn't one of our payment methods.

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Quote from: ZIGGAP on January 28, 2013, 11:00:15 PM

ZIGGAP is currently accepting these payment methods:

Cash deposit at:

[...]
National Australia Bank (NAB - AUS)

Does the site render different based on where it is accessed from? I don't see either the OKPay or the NAB cash deposit methods.

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i sent cash in the mail to this guy once and he delivered the bitcoins as promised. +1 from me.

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Quote from: justusranvier on January 29, 2013, 07:16:05 PM

Cash deposits are nice (until you get shut down like BitInstant did) but what's missing from this space is the ability to purchase bitcoins via ACH deposit i.e. I want to have an account and routing number that I could use for direct deposit. That would make it possible to convert a salary from a regular job directly into bitcoins without needing to have a bank account.

Amen!

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Cash deposits are nice (until you get shut down like BitInstant did) but what's missing from this space is the ability to purchase bitcoins via ACH deposit i.e. I want to have an account and routing number that I could use for direct deposit. That would make it possible to convert a salary from a regular job directly into bitcoins without needing to have a bank account.

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Replied. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1488931

It helps. Thank you.

But my basic problem, as I mentioned, is that I want to do it all from my desk, rather than dragging my ancient bones to a bank that is a half-hour away. The problem is not my being looked at funny. The problem is that the bank cannot do what you describe unless I am physically present at the bank in the flesh. If I tried it by fax, email, or snail-mail, they fear that I could deny that I ever sent the withdrawal authorization, thereby ripping Chase off.

As I implied above, the solution is not yet here, but I expect that the whole clumsy interface between slick 21st-C bitcoins, and sluggish 14th-C banking procedures will sort itself out in coming years.

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