Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 310. (Read 58977 times)

Notice how you're at that stage of the argument where you're just bombarding me with your questions without even attempting to address any of mine.

Yes. Red Cross didn't call off the evacuation due to safety concerns. And that's their responsibility because they're the once providing the guarantees.

Its a fact that both sides agreed on evacuation. Its also a fact that Red Cross decided that both sides were credible enough to warrant putting itself forward as a guarantor for said evacuation. How about just letting innocent people stuck in this war decide whether they wanted to go with Red Cross or take their chances by staying in the besieged city? If anything, pulling shit like this with Red Cross plays right into Putins hand and his propaganda machine.

If you want to to get acquainted with reports from the front line, read the daily summary from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

Do you really believe Putin wants to get "good guy" points? Don't be so naive. If he was really worried about civilian casualties, he wouldn't be targeting them in the first place. Unless you imply that Ukrainians are killing their own people?

LOL will you fucking stop with the "twist the logic" nonsense. Are you trying to blame Ukrainians for not allowing civilians to leave, yes or no? What were they supposed to do if there is shelling going on?

Sad attempt to twist the logic, both sides should let Red Cross do their job. You're not going to get good guy points by interfering with Red Cross. Are you seriously trying to claim that there will be less casualties if hundreds of thousands of people are not allowed to leave with Red Cross and instead are forced to stay in the besieged city? Then care to give an example or your definition of a human shield during a war?

So what did you expect to happen? Tell civilians to leave bomb shelters / basements / etc despite ongoing shelling? I get that you dislike the number of casualties and prefer it to be much larger.

Special Report From the Front Line in Ukraine
https://youtu.be/8dQQgv-nVUY
https://web.archive.org/web/20220305202437/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dQQgv-nVUY


The Thinking Man

https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/75602/

Cool seems like an agreement by both sides to evacuate civilians with Red Cross as a guarantor.


https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-05-22/h_13a7c76619d2babd355c5cc72781c23b

WTF? As of March 5 UN estimates 351 civilians killed. Don't take pictures of people and then tell them that they cant leave with Red Cross! Trying to claim that its better for hundreds of thousands of civilians to stay in the besieged city without water or power is madness, or correct term would be hostages! The fuckery with Red Cross needs to be condemned as strongly as possible, and i don't care what side you're on.

It`s ЗCУ. From the word "збpoйнi". Learn Ukrainian, you need to know the language to find out about our victory. Nobody will announce that on Russian television.

Despite a lot of good news (good for Ukraine), this photo darkened my day more than the sirens that I currently hear.

The Kremlin has long been known to use propaganda and disinformation as a powerful weapon. In order to curb the spread of disinformation, many Canadian and European telecom providers are banning major Russian propaganda outlets. The majority here is undoubtedly against any form of censorship. But, in order to do their jobs, government agencies must ensure that they are effectively countering Russian propaganda while giving a platform to alternative viewpoints and truth.

Of course, and it's not Russia bombing whole cities, neighborhoods and hospitals. These damned Ukrainians are rapidly building houses where the Russian army are launching missiles! (of course and I'm sarcastically speaking)

On top of that, their so-called diplomatic solution involves meeting all of Russia's demands, (which simply means surrendering their territories and becoming a Russian outpost, like Belarus). The war continues with an irreducible pace, I never expected such an outcome.

So who carried out the Chernihiv bombing? Kharkiv? and some other places? was it a ghost that did it? I can't understand how it is possible for someone as shameless as Putin to issue a statement like this and moreover call it propaganda, when it is clear that they carried out the bombing. smh

They are about several people in the huge country of 40 billion people.
I can sure you, that yours country have several peolpe with same ideology.
So... why not? Some day Putin points on yours country, just saying he see that there lives some peolpe with wrong ideology... and he want to struggle them... aftrer that 500kg bombs drops on yours houses.
If it sound crazy to you - I can show you some videos from my city. It is without subtitles, but clear enough.

Hello here.
I live in Ukraine. Kharkiv. You can see it on the map if want.
We severe huge bombardment on us.
Now different politicans from RF just turn to us by youtube. They say that Ukraine will be destroyed.
For this moment I want to organize something like a humanitarian process in my district.
Because I live at Pokotilovka. It is on the city borders.
People are organized well, and some food was transferred here just today.
But there are many people having problem to access it because of logistical problems, in particular It happens to old people. And the food supply was not such huge(at all I can say).
So I just want to organize some transport to humanitarian hubs or even purchase some at product storages.
Also want to say about myself - I have a wife and 3 childrens plus dad and mom in my house for now. And our food stocks are about 1-2 weeks.
At that moment online payment services are working in my country.
Also I have a Binance account.
So want to beg for some crypto that I can sell, and use this funds for organizing humanitarian logistic in my district.
I can provide any evidences of where I live, can handle a video conversation when internet connection is on, give full photo report on future actions, etc.
If you can help - pls freely contact me at any time.
https://t.me/radiy_sl

Can you guys give your take on that Azov battalion and their ideology? I couldn't find anything positive on them. This is from wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

So you claim the nazis fight the other nazis aka Azov Battalion

On the subject of listening to Putin, there is a rule in war: Anything the enemy says is disinformation. You do not believe, nor not believe it , you simply ignore it completely insofar as that is humanly possible. Your decisions are based on facts, actions and your own intelligence.

This applies to anything they say, including "we want a diplomatic solution", "we are here to free you", etc... The enemy is not your friend and is not going to give you anything that can help your efforts.

On how Putin´s Russia is behaving, yes, I find quite a few similarities with the Nazis in WWII - the right to impose their views by force, despising minorities, blaming the foreign for your own weaknesses...

No, I am anti-Soviet. I despise them.  I know they are not humans.  
They don't abide by any human norms, moral or ethical standards.
They have no respect for human life, equality, or justice.  

They break all norms of the civilized world and lie about it to themselves and the rest of the world.

There is no difference between WWII German Nazis and the Russian Soviets of any era.

In my world view, Soviets and their sympathizers should be put down like the mad dogs they are.

They are pure evil on pretty much any level.

Yep. I'm from Ukraine. If someone has questions you're welcome.