[Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos

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Quote from: Pmalek on May 06, 2024, 11:09:05 AM

I have checked some of the recommendations that different users made in this thread about new crypto casinos which I should add, and I have decided to include the following ones in my table

Nice to see you finally added l0tt0 website, and dewez will be very happy to hear this. Grin

He is working on making some big changes and design updates with adding support for more altcoins soon, and I will monitor if he makes any changes with withdrawal fees.

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Update:
I have checked some of the recommendations that different users made in this thread about new crypto casinos which I should add, and I have decided to include the following ones in my table:

- l0tt0
- Shuffle.com
- 8ombard
- SLM.Games
- VAVADA

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Bitkong casino is still offline and unavailable since the ownership change on 1 May. Since there is no information on the website or the Bitcointalk announcement thread about when the new site might be ready, I will remove them from my table. It doesn't hurt anyone by being there since you can't log in or play at the casino but I will remove it nevertheless.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on April 25, 2024, 12:49:53 PM

You may also replace the withdrawal fee details of CryptoGames with 'dynamic withdrawal fees'. Because the fee also changes their according to the condition of Bitcoin mempool.

I think I will leave it as it is for now even if it isn't correct. The reason being that they have had that fee range for a long time and might still come back to it if the situation with the Ordinals spam gets solved soon. But you are right that their fees have also increased as a result of the mempool congestion. Right now, you can choose between 0.00020322 BTC and 0.00049345 BTC, depending on how quick of a confirmation you are looking for.

BetFury uses a similar system. I just checked their fees, and they are still as shown in the table. Let's see if CryptoGames reverts back to their usual fee rates...

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 26, 2024, 11:16:38 AM

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Yap, in their Help Center Information.

They explained things, and want to cover all withdrawal fees from their side. However these exclusive fee withdraws was came for one condition, the minimum withdraw in (Gamdom) can change based on the fee they're paying.

So people should be not surprise at all, while they change the amount minimum withdraw.

Source: https://help.gamdom.com/en/articles/7998196-cryptocurrency-transaction-fees

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on April 25, 2024, 12:49:53 PM

I was wondering how those casinos are taking care of the situation who doesn't charge anything for Bitcoin withdrawal. There are 8 casinos in the table with no fee for withdrawal, only Gamdom has increased their min withdrawal limit to $800. Perhaps, they will reduce it when things will be normal again.

My respect goes out to them, especially in times like the ones we are experiencing right now. Some casinos are very greedy and charge way more than they have to, just to pocket the difference. And that difference ends up being a big one. And then there are those who cover everything from their pockets. They deserve some love.

One way to mitigate the problem could be to do what Gamdom did and increase the minimum withdrawal amount. That way, there wouldn't be as many withdrawals during times of high congestion where the casinos waste big amounts on paying for mining fees.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 25, 2024, 11:24:32 AM

Please expect high withdrawal fees in all crypto casinos ever since the halving due to the on-chain spam being created with the Runes exploit.
I haven't checked or made any updates to the fees in the table, but I don't doubt that they are much higher than what is currently written there.

I think it is better today but few days ago I saw warning on Sportsbet that withdrawals processing is going to be slower than usual.
Considering that Sportsbet even than didnt charge anything for withdrawal fees I was not upset and I didnt need to withdraw coins urgently.
I have no idea how other casinos handled recent bitcoin stuckness, but using other altcoins and usdt works fine.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 25, 2024, 11:24:32 AM

I haven't checked or made any updates to the fees in the table, but I don't doubt that they are much higher than what is currently written there.

Don't worry much about the information on the table. The table contains around 56 casinos withdrawal information now, where 28 casinos withdrawal fee has been written as dynamic. You don't need to update them no matter what is the condition of Bitcoin network is Cheesy

. You may also replace the withdrawal fee details of CryptoGames with 'dynamic withdrawal fees'. Because the fee also changes their according to the condition of Bitcoin mempool.

I was wondering how those casinos are taking care of the situation who doesn't charge anything for Bitcoin withdrawal. There are 8 casinos in the table with no fee for withdrawal, only Gamdom has increased their min withdrawal limit to $800. Perhaps, they will reduce it when things will be normal again.

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Quote from: bitmover on April 25, 2024, 11:49:17 AM

Fees were about 40sat vB a few hours ago.

I think they will be back to the "normal " 20-30 sat vB at any time in the next days.

I think we checked the mempool conditions around the same time today because I also remember seeing recommended fees at around 40 sat/vByte. Sadly, they are now around 100 sats/vByte right now. The block time is below 10 minutes. The difficulty adjustment played out in our favor, which is one of the reasons we are seeing quicker block confirmations at the start of the new interval.

Quote from: bitmover on April 25, 2024, 11:49:17 AM

(At least we will have a single UTXO when we withdrawal blackjack.fun campaign earnings

)

Yeah, that's true.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 25, 2024, 11:24:32 AM

Please expect high withdrawal fees in all crypto casinos ever since the halving due to the on-chain spam being created with the Runes exploit.
I haven't checked or made any updates to the fees in the table, but I don't doubt that they are much higher than what is currently written there.

If you are not in a hurry to get your winnings, wait for the situation to calm down (if it does) before requesting withdrawals.

Good advice! Ordinals messed up the BTC network horribly last year and it took a long time for the fees to get back to normal and we have to endure similar crap thanks to runes which was launched on halving day.

These brain-dead developers are just making miners richer and creating chaos for the average investor simultaneously. Stuff like this makes my respect for LTC etc grow.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 25, 2024, 11:24:32 AM

Please expect high withdrawal fees in all crypto casinos ever since the halving due to the on-chain spam being created with the Runes exploit.
I haven't checked or made any updates to the fees in the table, but I don't doubt that they are much higher than what is currently written there.

If you are not in a hurry to get your winnings, wait for the situation to calm down (if it does) before requesting withdrawals.

Better not to update yet, and not to withdrawal either.

Fees were about 40sat vB a few hours ago.

I think they will be back to the "normal " 20-30 sat vB at any time in the next days.

(At least we will have a single UTXO when we withdrawal blackjack.fun campaign earnings

)

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Please expect high withdrawal fees in all crypto casinos ever since the halving due to the on-chain spam being created with the Runes exploit.
I haven't checked or made any updates to the fees in the table, but I don't doubt that they are much higher than what is currently written there.

If you are not in a hurry to get your winnings, wait for the situation to calm down (if it does) before requesting withdrawals.

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Quote from: entebah on April 05, 2024, 01:17:28 PM

i just try the withdrawal for PEPE coins and IMO the fees that we need to pay is pretty high because it was around 16$ but don't know if this fees will be lower because right now the gas fee on ethereum around 35 GWEI.

The Ethereum gas sites that recommend how much you need to pay in fees are showing data for ether transactions, but not for smart contract interactions. PEPE is a token and requires more fees. Maybe 50% on top of what you would pay for a typical Ethereum transaction, depending on network congestion. But it still shouldn't be close to $16 if the recommended fee rate was 35 GWEI at the time you sent the transaction. It's not a secret that casinos earn money when you make withdrawals, so that's what this is.

Quote from: notblox1 on April 05, 2024, 04:22:40 PM

There are some exceptions from that rule like Sportsbet, Livecasino and few other casinos, but I am always asking from all casinos to confirm if they are charging additional fees

Those that you mentioned aren't exceptions. Their minimum withdrawal amounts are 0.001 BTC, but they cover the mining fees from their end.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 05, 2024, 10:02:55 AM

Usually when casinos say there are no minimum withdrawal amounts, you still need a sum to cover the withdrawal/mining fees at least.

There are some exceptions from that rule like Sportsbet, Livecasino and few other casinos, but I am always asking from all casinos to confirm if they are charging additional fees for transactions or not.
One of the problems is that casino fee policies can change like the wind blowing, and they are not always publishing and telling customers about those changes.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 05, 2024, 10:02:55 AM

I don't disagree, but that was the information I was given a long time ago. It's not possible to check it further from an empty account like mine. Usually when casinos say there are no minimum withdrawal amounts, you still need a sum to cover the withdrawal/mining fees at least.

i just try the withdrawal for PEPE coins and IMO the fees that we need to pay is pretty high because it was around 16$ but don't know if this fees will be lower because right now the gas fee on ethereum around 35 GWEI.

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Quote from: entebah on April 04, 2024, 01:24:09 PM

i just made an email to bjfun admin regarding this and he replied it.

maybe you can update the tables with this information

I appreciate you taking the time to check the information personally. I have asked the customer support myself now and will update the table when they get back to me.

Quote from: notblox1 on April 04, 2024, 05:14:33 PM

It would be very strange for any casino to have minimum withdrawal for all atcoins and nothing for bitcoin, when altcoins have cheaper fees.

I don't disagree, but that was the information I was given a long time ago. It's not possible to check it further from an empty account like mine. Usually when casinos say there are no minimum withdrawal amounts, you still need a sum to cover the withdrawal/mining fees at least.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 04, 2024, 10:57:22 AM

The information in my table concerns numbers for bitcoin. Based on what I know, Blackjack.Fun has no minimum limits for bitcoin withdrawals. I don't keep track of the numbers for altcoins. If something changed, feel free to let me know. They have a somewhat unusual UI, which doesn't make it clear what the minimum is by going to the cashier page.

It would be very strange for any casino to have minimum withdrawal for all atcoins and nothing for bitcoin, when altcoins have cheaper fees.
They surely changed something on their website maybe because people made many small withdrawals for all coins and they had to pay more fees for transactions.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 04, 2024, 10:57:22 AM

Quote from: entebah on April 03, 2024, 06:22:10 PM

from where did you see that blackjack.fun have no minimum withdrawal? because i try it a few times to withdraw 5$ on usdt but it says the amount too small.
a few hours ago i even saw someone in bjfun chat that he can't withdraw even 30$ on tron because it says the amount too small

The information in my table concerns numbers for bitcoin. Based on what I know, Blackjack.Fun has no minimum limits for bitcoin withdrawals. I don't keep track of the numbers for altcoins. If something changed, feel free to let me know. They have a somewhat unusual UI, which doesn't make it clear what the minimum is by going to the cashier page.

i just made an email to bjfun admin regarding this and he replied it.

maybe you can update the tables with this information

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 04, 2024, 10:57:22 AM

Quote from: entebah on April 03, 2024, 06:22:10 PM

from where did you see that blackjack.fun have no minimum withdrawal? because i try it a few times to withdraw 5$ on usdt but it says the amount too small.
a few hours ago i even saw someone in bjfun chat that he can't withdraw even 30$ on tron because it says the amount too small

The information in my table concerns numbers for bitcoin. Based on what I know, Blackjack.Fun has no minimum limits for bitcoin withdrawals. I don't keep track of the numbers for altcoins. If something changed, feel free to let me know. They have a somewhat unusual UI, which doesn't make it clear what the minimum is by going to the cashier page.

The withdrawal page is really not very informative in this regard. I don't see any mention of the minimum withdrawal limit in their ToS either. However, there is a notable clause 9.2, which states that they can charge a withdrawal fee of 8% (minimum 4 euros) if a user doesn't wager the deposit at least once. I'm guessing this may be one of the reasons why some users get a notification that the amount is too small.

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Quote from: entebah on April 03, 2024, 06:22:10 PM

from where did you see that blackjack.fun have no minimum withdrawal? because i try it a few times to withdraw 5$ on usdt but it says the amount too small.
a few hours ago i even saw someone in bjfun chat that he can't withdraw even 30$ on tron because it says the amount too small

The information in my table concerns numbers for bitcoin. Based on what I know, Blackjack.Fun has no minimum limits for bitcoin withdrawals. I don't keep track of the numbers for altcoins. If something changed, feel free to let me know. They have a somewhat unusual UI, which doesn't make it clear what the minimum is by going to the cashier page.

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