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September 30, 2012, 03:12:23 PM
#85
The point is that in one thread you were offering to buy $1M of mining hardware, another you are asking for a huge loan, and in yet another you were asking for 25BTC to form an LLC.
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September 30, 2012, 08:53:48 AM
#84
Hmm, Viceroy, why are you asking a loan for the plants while trying to put similar amount of money to BFL rigs?

We are seeking a total of $1.5 million dollars over the next three years with an initial need for $350,000 with which we will begin to build a 15,000 sq ft production facility. We are seeking 1-7 individuals to lend $50,000-$350,000 at an interest rate of 20%.

I'll pay you $35,000 for one ASIC that meets the specs BFL put out for the ASIC SC, that's a 116% return in one day. 

I'll up the ante... I'll pay $1,000,000 for 30 Butterfly BitForce Super Computers.  That should be plenty of incentive.

I challenge each and every one of you ... if you can deliver on this offer let me know, I'd LOVE to pay the bounty.
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September 14, 2012, 10:49:28 AM
#83
Good to hear.
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September 14, 2012, 08:16:21 AM
#82
Are you still planning on moving with this? I really like the idea although there is no way I would be up for offering the full amount your asking for, if you sort something out where smaller investments would be an option please feel free to PM me.
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September 12, 2012, 02:04:42 AM
#81
Instead of saying " .... marijuana", why not list a security for "planting and selling organically grown herbs and health products.".

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September 12, 2012, 02:00:38 AM
#80
Considering statements such as http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_17936371 which quote:
 ... wrote that the Department of Justice would consider civil and criminal action for those who invest in or facilitate marijuana production.

   Read more: Colorado medical-marijuana bill draws U.S. attorney's warning - The Denver Post
   http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_17936371#ixzz26ESXdpJs
   Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse


The stock exchange could potentially be held responsible for investing or facilitating, hence a listing of such a security is under the current circumstances a risk that we'ld not be willing to take.
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September 11, 2012, 05:50:03 AM
#79

Awesome, thanks.

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You can try ICBIT, Tycho registered his pre-order ASIC bonds there.... worth a shot https://icbit.se/
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September 11, 2012, 02:15:50 AM
#78
I know someone who grows in Colorado right now, and I know for a fact they don't reach nearly the profit margins you're talking about in the OP.  Granted, the plural of anecdote is data.

Not to be condescending, but have you grown pot before?  A 15,000 sqft warehouse seems like a huge undertaking for a first timer.  It might even be overkill, if CO laws are anything like CA's, I think you're limited to a certain number of plants per patient you serve.
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September 11, 2012, 01:26:27 AM
#77
>How many plants can you grow exactly, when legal?

On November 7, if A64 passes, up to six plants and up to one ounce will be constitutionally legal for any adult 21+ while that adult is in Colorado.  Residency is not a requirement.
I mean for businesses.
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September 11, 2012, 01:05:32 AM
#76
You, of all the posters in thread, I would expect to move here November 7th... the day we legalize marijuana for recreational adult use.

I was just saying to my wife that I cannot wait to go out on the deck and for the first time in my life smoke a big fat joint without any shame and proudly proclaim to the world that I am smoking a big fat joint at the top of my lungs.  Won't my neighbors be surprised Smiley

Warning: the following link may contain anti-propaganda Smiley

http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/s/regulate-marijuana-alcohol-act-2012

I would if I didn't put love first.

How many plants can you grow exactly, when legal?
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September 11, 2012, 12:47:48 AM
#75
I'd move there if I didn't have other priorities.  Looks nice, I'll be sure to visit, maybe buy some land there, someday.
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September 11, 2012, 12:28:37 AM
#74
I used to be into science, too.

more condescending words from you.

I can do that too.

I used to be into spirituality and drugs, too. Back when I was young and naive.

I'm done arguing with you. For viceroy and for my own sake.  

Your condescending attitude only further solidifies my assumptions that you are that type of person I was describing earlier.

Arguing with people like you is just disappointing.  If someone references something that you know nothing about (transfer of energy) you just fall back on philosophy. I hope you can recognize how frustrating that is to anyone willing to make an attempt to enlighten you about something.
You're only perceiving my attitude that way, I was really just saying I used to be into science, too, while adding two scientific studies.  No negativity there.  If you want to reply, please do so in my Dank Bank thread.
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September 11, 2012, 12:10:30 AM
#73
I used to be into science, too.

more condescending words from you.

I can do that too.

I used to be into spirituality and drugs, too. Back when I was young and naive.

I'm done arguing with you. For viceroy and for my own sake.  

Your condescending attitude only further solidifies my assumption that you are that type of person I was describing earlier.

Arguing with people like you is just disappointing.  If someone references something that you know nothing about (transfer of energy) you just fall back on philosophy. I hope you can recognize how frustrating that is to anyone willing to make an attempt to enlighten you about something.
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September 10, 2012, 11:37:23 PM
#72

Why does it make you upset?  Does it confuse you or is it too much to accept?  It seems to make sense to me, so I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it as bullshit.
^
It's questions like these that make me upset.

You make a claim that getting high is the transfer of energy from the plant, then when people give you legitimate reasons why your statement is false you start talking about philosophical bullshit in order to make it seem like such a claim is not false. Next, is probably arguing about what reality is and the "there is no such thing as false" argument.


That type of arguing, to me, is upsetting.

Just admit it.  You were wrong. Getting high is NOT caused by the transfer of energy from the plant.

Also, you can't cure diseases through ignorance. Sorry.

I do agree that placebo plays a huge role in everything, but it's not the cure for cancer. I'll admit, optimism could help increase your chance of survival via the placebo effect.

Does science confuse you? or is it too much to accept?

Do these questions seem condescending to you?

Let me just add, since it's related to the business more directly, that weed cures cancer.  Through physical and spiritual healing.  I used to be into science, too.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19442435
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14570037
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September 10, 2012, 11:34:30 PM
#71

Awesome, thanks.

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September 10, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
#70

Why does it make you upset?  Does it confuse you or is it too much to accept?  It seems to make sense to me, so I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it as bullshit.
^
It's questions like these that make me upset.

You make a claim that getting high is the transfer of energy from the plant, then when people give you legitimate reasons why your statement is false you start talking about philosophical bullshit in order to make it seem like such a claim is not false. Next, is probably arguing about what reality is and the "there is no such thing as false" argument.


That type of arguing, to me, is upsetting.

Just admit it.  You were wrong. Getting high is NOT caused by the transfer of energy from the plant.

Also, you can't cure diseases through ignorance. Sorry.

I do agree that placebo plays a huge role in everything, but it's not the cure for cancer. I'll admit, optimism could help increase your chance of survival via the placebo effect.

Does science confuse you? or is it too much to accept?

Do these questions seem condescending to you?
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September 10, 2012, 10:34:38 PM
#69
please stop with this philosophical bullshit.

If you grew up where I did you would understand why I just can't take it anymore.  I hear nonsense like this every day from your typical college hippie that takes a hallucinogen and suddenly thinks hes the smartest philosopher ever.

The next argument from people like you is probably "well you haven't done enough drugs to be enlightened."

It seems the common consensus among your generation is the more drugs that you do the more "enlightened" you become and the more qualified you are to talk about philosophy.

Trust me. I have done plenty of psychedelics, so I would probably fit your criteria for an "enlightened philosopher" (lol).

I have lost friends who are too "open minded" and took their psychedelics experiences way too seriously.

Please just stop. I don't want this bullshit to pollute bitcointalk.org, I have to deal with it enough as it is.

GRR

sry, this kinda stuff just makes me rage
Why does it make you upset?  Does it confuse you or is it too much to accept?  It seems to make sense to me, so I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it as bullshit.

As I said, there's two ways to look at everything.  Perhaps we should move this to another thread, if we'd like to continue the discussion.

Viceroy, the idea for your own website sounded somewhat promising, compared to any other options.
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September 10, 2012, 10:27:34 PM
#68
please stop with this philosophical bullshit.

If you grew up where I did you would understand why I just can't take it anymore.  I hear nonsense like this every day from your typical college hippie that takes a hallucinogen and suddenly thinks hes the smartest philosopher ever.

The next argument from people like you is probably "well you haven't done enough drugs to be enlightened."

It seems the common consensus among your generation is the more drugs that you do the more "enlightened" you become and the more qualified you are to talk about philosophy.

Trust me. I have done plenty of psychedelics, so I would probably fit your criteria for an "enlightened philosopher" (lol).

I have lost friends who are too "open minded" and took their psychedelics experiences way too seriously.

Please just stop. I don't want this bullshit to pollute bitcointalk.org, I have to deal with it enough as it is.

GRR

sry, this kinda stuff just makes me rage
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September 10, 2012, 10:26:04 PM
#67
Dank, how high are you right now? You should put the computer down, you are making a fool of yourself.
Is that how you refute claims to make a point?  Attacks?  I haven't smoked since 4:20.

Nimda, I don't know what the point of your post was, you just proved that I said it was a transfer of energy, which I thought we agreed was true, albeit a very small amount of energy.  It's not that complicated, weed connects you to the universe because it is made of the universe, just like you.

You hadn't made any point worth refuting, I was just giving a friendly piece of advice.

There is nothing about getting high involving transferring energy. None. Getting high is all about switching around which chemicals in your brain are connected where. Attach the appropriate molecule to the receptor and release a bunch of other molecules. It is not energy. Eat some cookies, the sugar goes into your brain, that is transferring energy. Smoking pot is not. There is no "connection to the universe", it is all in your head.
You're right, the universe is also in my head because we were created by the universe and therefor are the universe.

It requires chemical energy for the plant to make the chemicals, so there is a small amount of energy transfered. The amount of energy is quite small. The affect of the drug is due to interactions with receptors, not because of the energy in the chemical.
Which is it?  I didn't say they released energy, I said they transferred it from the plant, through smoke, through your lungs, into your blood and into your brain.  I don't see why both of our statements can't be correct, there's two ways to look at everything.
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September 10, 2012, 10:21:27 PM
#66
The chemical transfer and their subsequent energy transfer are what makes you high.  It's both, we can both be right.

Because there is energy in those chemicals, right?

No, you are wrong. The chemicals do not release any energy, they store it and retain it. Sugar release energy when your body metabolizes it, canabinoids remain largely unchanged and are not used for energy.
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