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niitassin

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Quote from: CryptoVote on September 19, 2015, 12:44:03 AM

Quote from: niitassin on September 18, 2015, 10:44:29 PM

Then CryptoVote will have to compile again and if the majority isn't updating then pushing the update is worthless

I don't mind re-compiling for Windows. If we give users at least 2 months to upgrade, we might get the majority of clients. This also gives us adequately time to test and work on the next version. Microsoft and others have pushed some bad patches in the past so some folks wait until the the new version is well tested before considering an update (you know once bitten...). Others don't care or don't know about it.

Let's do that then, I will modify the code to Fork in November 5 (Remember, Remember the Fifth of November)

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Quote from: niitassin on September 18, 2015, 10:44:29 PM

Then CryptoVote will have to compile again and if the majority isn't updating then pushing the update is worthless

I don't mind re-compiling for Windows. If we give users at least 2 months to upgrade, we might get the majority of clients. This also gives us adequately time to test and work on the next version. Microsoft and others have pushed some bad patches in the past so some folks wait until the the new version is well tested before considering an update (you know once bitten...). Others don't care or don't know about it.

niitassin

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Then CryptoVote will have to compile again and if the majority isn't updating then pushing the update is worthless

niitassin

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Now based on where this is goin' , I will have to go on a temporary hiatus, I got October Exams, but I will try and finish off Crave 3.0 and give a snapshot of it

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Quote from: catotune on September 18, 2015, 07:25:55 AM

Quote from: cisahasa on September 18, 2015, 06:30:10 AM

if you want to fix this
revert code back to that market version.
update protocol every time you make a change.
you should revert version and pump protocol to 70001
atleast generate new key pairs to alert/checkpoint code.
(there are still 2 key pairs for spork and masternodes)

now the keys are in hands of icm, he can destroy the coin at this point if he wants.

Interesting... Could you please explain what this means? What do the 2 key pairs for spork and masternodes signify?

If ICM destroying the coin is indeed the danger, then I think these keys are a million times more important than changing the algorithm and forking Crave to be PoW, which I think is completely unnecessary.

But what would make this dev more trustworthy than ICM if the problem is the same - one person holds all the keys to destroy a coin? ICM may or may not be gone, but he at least made me a lot of money and never wasted my time. This dev made me lose over 1 BTC worth of Crave and has shown extremely erratic judgment (Nothing personal, he is probably very intelligent, but it will take a lot to regain my trust).

My erratic judgement is due to my panic problem.... I tend to panic (a lot)

I will solemnly try to gain back your trust. The keys were not changed because we thought there was no immediate risk...

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Quote from: cisahasa on September 18, 2015, 06:30:10 AM

if you want to fix this
revert code back to that market version.
update protocol every time you make a change.
you should revert version and pump protocol to 70001
atleast generate new key pairs to alert/checkpoint code.
(there are still 2 key pairs for spork and masternodes)

now the keys are in hands of icm, he can destroy the coin at this point if he wants.

Interesting... Could you please explain what this means? What do the 2 key pairs for spork and masternodes signify?

If ICM destroying the coin is indeed the danger, then I think these keys are a million times more important than changing the algorithm and forking Crave to be PoW, which I think is completely unnecessary.

But what would make this dev more trustworthy than ICM if the problem is the same - one person holds all the keys to destroy a coin? ICM may or may not be gone, but he at least made me a lot of money and never wasted my time. This dev made me lose over 1 BTC worth of Crave and has shown extremely erratic judgment (Nothing personal, he is probably very intelligent, but it will take a lot to regain my trust).

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if you want to fix this
revert code back to that market version.
update protocol every time you make a change.
you should revert version and pump protocol to 70001
atleast generate new key pairs to alert/checkpoint code.
(there are still 2 key pairs for spork and masternodes)

now the keys are in hands of icm, he can destroy the coin at this point if he wants.

niitassin

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This is my mistake of doing forks that are just too much, so for now I will have to revert to the Adrenaline Version.... (With the Market)

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This situation is exactly what I was afraid of when I kept asking if this fork was "official" and which exchanges were going to use it. I was not trolling, but concerned that this was a rogue fork that wouldn't work in the larger, established Crave ecosystem.

When I was told that Bittrex was using this fork, I decided to recompile my nodes to this version. Obviously that was a mistake, since I am stuck on block 188001 along with apparently everyone else in this thread. I am all for innovation, but not at the expense of stability or wasting my time.

For now I will go back to using: https://github.com/industrialcoinmagic/crave

I assume this is the correct Crave wallet to use, but please let me know if this is not the case.

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Kamatazeo, for the coins you lost on Bittrex, you will get 1.5% More of What You Lost

niitassin

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Quote from: niitassins_dad on September 17, 2015, 10:54:45 AM

My son is taking the right decision. Crave rebrand:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12445532

I'm not sure if you are fudding or trying very hard to piss me off....

Also, amid this confusion I will basically swap all the damn coins to a new chain, cisahasa, could you kindly enlighten me on any more vulnerability because I am caught myself in a hole...

Also, nobody updates, everybody is fucked in this chain trap, for now, switch back to the ICM Version of Crave....

It's not a rebrand, it a rebirth BTW

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Quote from: cisahasa on September 16, 2015, 04:09:29 PM

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 03:28:19 PM

Quote from: cisahasa on September 16, 2015, 03:02:28 PM

forking is happening after sha256 fork...
passive nodes that are not staking follows own chain, old and new blocks...
wallets do not.
2 wallets 2 algos.. fork
old wallet accepts new blocks as passive node, that is the problem.
there some mess to solve..

disable all exchanges and fix the code.
postpone sha and pow fork into future
give people time to update.

alert priv key is the answer to solve this..

Who has da key?

icm

It was sarcastic, but seriously, does anyone else have the key

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Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 03:28:19 PM

Quote from: cisahasa on September 16, 2015, 03:02:28 PM

forking is happening after sha256 fork...
passive nodes that are not staking follows own chain, old and new blocks...
wallets do not.
2 wallets 2 algos.. fork
old wallet accepts new blocks as passive node, that is the problem.
there some mess to solve..

disable all exchanges and fix the code.
postpone sha and pow fork into future
give people time to update.

alert priv key is the answer to solve this..

Who has da key?

icm

niitassin

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Quote from: JJ12880 on September 16, 2015, 03:45:47 PM

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 10:32:10 AM

Quote from: Erkallys on September 16, 2015, 06:29:54 AM

I want to know something. If I'm not using NiceHash, can I still mine one the MultiPool ? Because I started to mine and I don't see any hashrate, everything at 0 MH/s.

I doubt that the multi pool updated their wallet

I have the multi-pool down right now, because it uses bittrex, and they have the wallet in maintenance mode. Any earnings are not lost, and will be credited as soon as everything goes back up again. Any questions, feel free to ask!

JJ

You sure?

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Blockchain and stuff

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 10:32:10 AM

Quote from: Erkallys on September 16, 2015, 06:29:54 AM

I want to know something. If I'm not using NiceHash, can I still mine one the MultiPool ? Because I started to mine and I don't see any hashrate, everything at 0 MH/s.

I doubt that the multi pool updated their wallet

I have the multi-pool down right now, because it uses bittrex, and they have the wallet in maintenance mode. Any earnings are not lost, and will be credited as soon as everything goes back up again. Any questions, feel free to ask!

JJ

niitassin

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Quote from: cisahasa on September 16, 2015, 03:02:28 PM

forking is happening after sha256 fork...
passive nodes that are not staking follows own chain, old and new blocks...
wallets do not.
2 wallets 2 algos.. fork
old wallet accepts new blocks as passive node, that is the problem.
there some mess to solve..

disable all exchanges and fix the code.
postpone sha and pow fork into future
give people time to update.

alert priv key is the answer to solve this..

Who has da key?

cisahasa

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forking is happening after sha256 fork...
passive nodes that are not staking follows own chain, old and new blocks...
wallets do not.
2 wallets 2 algos.. fork
old wallet accepts new blocks as passive node, that is the problem.
there some mess to solve..

disable all exchanges and fix the code.
postpone sha and pow fork into future
give people time to update.

alert priv key is the answer to solve this..

niitassin

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Quote from: NEVER.SELL.CRAVE...EVER on September 16, 2015, 02:18:25 PM

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 02:10:47 PM

Quote from: cisahasa on September 16, 2015, 12:39:34 PM

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 11:33:13 AM

Quote from: 8-bit-Party on September 16, 2015, 11:23:00 AM

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 11:14:43 AM

Quote from: 8-bit-Party on September 16, 2015, 11:08:51 AM

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 11:05:42 AM

Quote from: 8-bit-Party on September 16, 2015, 10:40:29 AM

So which ~~fork~~chain/network is valid one?
At this moment this is kinda madness, people will loose their coins.

The one with the latest client

Do you understand consequences of your proceeding?

Yup

So do you have thousands of crave to spend on refunds?

Excuse Me? I have told to update the client, If you don't update it, that is then your fault

i agree 8-bit. this was too short time shot.

2 ways to cover damage.
post pone all forks to future. or keep current chain and get angry messages..

Wait, okay, I have edited the code and postponded the fork to Block 200000

Please,be kind and talk to exchange guy richiela first...I mean before you do anything next time..you probably don't understand this is most important,if we lose Bittrex because of your destroying acts we're DONE!!

Sorry, I pm'ed him/her and hopefully everything can go back on track

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Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 02:10:47 PM

Quote from: cisahasa on September 16, 2015, 12:39:34 PM

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 11:33:13 AM

Quote from: 8-bit-Party on September 16, 2015, 11:23:00 AM

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 11:14:43 AM

Quote from: 8-bit-Party on September 16, 2015, 11:08:51 AM

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 11:05:42 AM

Quote from: 8-bit-Party on September 16, 2015, 10:40:29 AM

So which ~~fork~~chain/network is valid one?
At this moment this is kinda madness, people will loose their coins.

The one with the latest client

Do you understand consequences of your proceeding?

Yup

So do you have thousands of crave to spend on refunds?

Excuse Me? I have told to update the client, If you don't update it, that is then your fault

i agree 8-bit. this was too short time shot.

2 ways to cover damage.
post pone all forks to future. or keep current chain and get angry messages..

Wait, okay, I have edited the code and postponded the fork to Block 200000

Please,be kind and talk to exchange guy richiela first...I mean before you do anything next time..you probably don't understand this is most important,if we lose Bittrex because of your destroying acts we're DONE!!

niitassin

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Quote from: EmilioMann on September 16, 2015, 12:17:01 PM

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 11:33:13 AM

Quote from: 8-bit-Party on September 16, 2015, 11:23:00 AM

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 11:14:43 AM

Quote from: 8-bit-Party on September 16, 2015, 11:08:51 AM

Quote from: niitassin on September 16, 2015, 11:05:42 AM

Quote from: 8-bit-Party on September 16, 2015, 10:40:29 AM

So which ~~fork~~chain/network is valid one?
At this moment this is kinda madness, people will loose their coins.

The one with the latest client

Do you understand consequences of your proceeding?

Yup

So do you have thousands of crave to spend on refunds?

Excuse Me? I have told to update the client, If you don't update it, that is then your fault

how mac users will update our wallets?
can i use the same wallet.dat on windows?

Yes, you can

Quote from: NEVER.SELL.CRAVE...EVER on September 16, 2015, 11:44:49 AM

ICM...please come back...this is ridiculous nad sad at once.
Never give a responsibility to a children.

It's "a child", also, if the majority isn't taking 10 minutes of their time up update, how is it my fault?

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