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I was just able to completely read through this thread (took awhile but definitely interesting) and I have to side with DjVoodo on this one. turtlehurricane/theturtleisalive, like it's been mentioned before, it would be far easier to trust your side of the story if you can provide some proof of sending the gold back. Anything really, a tracking number, receipt, email correspondence with Amazon, or let a trusted escrow into your Amazon account to verify that the order status is "Returned", "Return in progress", or something similar to that.

Also, I'm sure I wasn't the only one to see the copy-paste spam posts you were making yesterday to bump up over a dozen old threads involving Quickseller. I think a ban for that was totally justified, because this forum has rules against spamming. I don't believe your banning had anything to do with Quickseller, but rather breaking forum rules that you should have known (you're a Hero member so you've been here awhile, you should have known the rules).

You said a few posts back that you'd call Amazon in the morning and receive proof of returning the gold that you weren't supposed to receive. Did you ever end up doing that? Right now it looks like you posted that message, went on a spamming spree about Quickseller, and then received a ban on your main account. In the last couple of posts this thread has really gone downhill, good luck with making your new forum and all but I'm sure if you are able to provide solid proof that you returned the coin to Amazon, or are in the process of doing so, Quickseller will rethink his rating (I talked to him about this and he told me this). I suspect that your ban is temporary, so providing proof of shipping the coin back is in your best interest. You could have the red flair removed from your account and just move on with things.

And finally what i aim for. The last posts of turtle show's his true character. This is what i told you from beginning, that he is just a corp full of shit, that only looks for gain, with any price.

I'm glad i manage to reach my goal and show what turtle is maid from.

Good luck sucker and i hope in this time i will meet you and than i will show you something that you will never imagine. We are not so far away than you think and i have the advantage to know who you are.

The posts here have been do give you negative for last business, what will happen to you if i will ever see you in front of me, can imagine that, really.

Calm down; just show us proof that you said Amazon was getting for you with the whole gold shipping. It's simple: give us the information and everything will return to normal. There's literally no reason for you to pull out like this (unless you were a scammer, but I'm not accusing you of anything as of right now).

If I had to pick a side in this one, 2 pages ago it would have been turtle, now having said that it's not a clear case, therefore the feedback that QS left was entirely justified. It clearly stated the issue along with the statement that it would be removed when the evidence asked for was provided, that wasn't an unreasonable position or request.

You should have left it alone at that point, provided the proof within a few days and it would have removed and there would be no damage to your reputation.

Sadly instead of taking the easy option, you decide to spam multiple other threads and that is probably the reason you were banned by a mod, not by QS, now you are making personal attacks which is not going to make things better.

You created the account you are posting from over a year ago...

You might have been able to log into your theturtleisalive account, then either post or PM some kind of documentation that you sent the coin back

I do think the kind of behavior you are engaging in is confirmation of my theory about you.  

Edit: I don't see what the fact that you were banned while you were sleeping has to do with anything LOL

I am not sure why you are making empty threats against me that have a decent chance of getting you arrested.

I also don't see why you don't simply provide some kind of evidence that you actually sent the coin back to Amazon....that really would probably be the simplest solution

Even though Amazon did not give you a label, you would have had to buy one yourself (or maybe you just bought a stamp if it only was worth $9 and was small in size), but the point is that postage needed to be purchased. Regardless, this does not match turtle's story that he was told to return the coin in it's original packaging.

For the packaging that a $1,300 gold coin is going to come in, an actual shipping label (for a parcel) is going to have to be used (as opposed to a stamp) if sending via USPS.

Even in the extremely unlikely event that a tracking number is 100% unavailable for the shipment of the coin back to Amazon, there would be some kind of other documentation that Amazon actually received the coin....something on his Amazon account, an email confirming this fact, anything.

I told him (via PM) that I would reevaluate my rating if he could provide some evidence that he returned the coin:

I believe that this behavior is very similar as to what happened in this case, as well as the case when he had a dispute with segveg, even to the point that turtlehurricane opened his own scam accusation against segvec regarding the incident.

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Regardless of what ends up happening in this case, anyone considering to deal with turtlehurricane in the future should absolutely use escrow.

In case it's relevant.  I can add that I was sent the wrong product which I purchased on amazon by a sender this January.  In my case, it was a 9$ product, so it wasn't very expensive (it was a case for a tablet, when they should have sent a case for a phone), in any case, what happened is that I wrote to them and they sent me the right case.  I asked them to send me some sort of shipping label.  They said "we don't do that, just send it back to me at your own expense and we'll reimburse you".

I write this just to say that I don't think it's true that amazon always sends you a label.  I was not sent a label in this case.

This story is obviously false based on the fact that turtlehurricane is stating he sent the items back in the original packaging. Amazon needs to be informed you are sending the item back and they provide you with a label+packaging. I have had to return 2 items back to them in the past few months, let alone another few times over the years. You can't just send it back. They track it and send an email instructing you on what to do

And now guys to see how honest he is, I told you in my other posts that he helped with my LBC account, help that i paid for $350. Now he made complain with LBC that i stole his identity.

How low can you be doing this? So he scam me for the 845 (total 975) plus 350 i paid for his service it's a total of $1,325. Nice job dude, you are the most honest people in the world, i hope to not find such serious guys like you never, LOL.

You deserve all the negative you can get from this community. This community help you build your trust, you piece of shit that you are.

I hope this will be a lesson for me and for everybody.
When you are dealing with a shit guy, always use escrow. Doesn't matter how honest he appear, if you doubt his character, ALWAYS use escrow, because in the end you will be scammed.

I live in the United States and can walk into pretty much any big store here and purchase 15 different types of prepaid cards. Prepaid cards have not been outright banned here so not really sure where you got that info from.

The Dollar General in the town next to me has all sorts of options, hell I can reload my prepaid bank card right at the counter.

My friend, also an American, said this when asked how hard it is to find a prepaid card.



My wife uses prepaid Visa cards constantly on Amazon to order all sorts of things.

What is really suspicious on both accounts is that these Amazon Giftcards are being sold really really cheap compared to their original value AND they were used to buy Gold which is pretty much another currency.

guys, I told you how I would do it.

take the fraudulent codes to a trusted 3rd party and let them verify with amazon.

also, it doesn't matter if turtlehurricane used the fraudulent cards or not, as this is for amazon/law whatever to decide. I mean they would know if a user bought stuff with stolen codes and take action.

Am I the only one who thinks the whole business setup is Fishy^tm?

DjVoodoo obtains 3 Amazon Gift Cards (AGC), worth $500 each from Mr. X
DjVoodoo "sells" these AGC to turtlehurricane for BTC3.75 (BTC3.75 was worth less than $1125 on August 4th 2015)
turtlehurricane uses the cards to purchase a $1300 golden coin from Mr. Y
turtlehurricane sells the coins for $1300 (no profit?) to Mr. Z
turtlehurricane "pays" DjVoodoo 75 70 65% of $1300 ($845)
turtlehurricane keeps 25 30 35% of $1300 ($455)
turtlehurricane keeps the unspent $200 in their amazon account ?!

This is what I can read from this thread. It raises so many questions with me.

Maybe I have just never ordered things they send via USPS. Either way I know that the lowest class of mail that is shipped via parcel including tracking service. It would also be in Amazon's best interest to purchase insurance for something that costs $1,300....

I've received multiple orders the past week from Amazon through USPS. They also use FedEx smart shipping or something like that, where FedEx receives but USPS delivers or maybe that was UPS not FedEx, can't quite remember so will check up on that.

I've always received a tracking number though when sending back.

Out of all the times I have ordered things from Amazon, I have never once received anything via USPS. It was mostly FedEx, but sometimes UPS.....

I'm just reading through and saw this so will drop in some info pertaining to the USPS.

I have worked for the USPS and can go ahead and tell you that shipping had to be paid for the return of that box

There are only 4 ways that you got out of paying shipping.

1. Amazon mailed you a return package with shipping paid for. This is ruled out as you said you returned the original item.
2. Amazon emailed you a pre-authorized shipping code for you to print out and stick to the box which would be payable by them upon its pickup from the drop box or post office.
3. The item was shipped to the wrong address in which it will be returned to its sender.
4. Someone else, a friend or family member, paid the shipping for you.

The USPS cannot and will not return a package to the sender unless postage is paid.

People would be more willing to believe you if you could provide some proof that you shipped the gold back to Amazon... Right now it's just your word saying that you shipped it back, when Amazon uses trackable parcels for their shipments. You should have a tracking number and receipt from dropping it off at the post office. I've mailed plenty of packages through pre-paid Canada Post and I've always received a receipt confirming the drop off when I give it to the post office worker. Even though I'm in Canada, I suspect things work similarly in the States with USPS.

If you don't have a tracking number then you should have an email conversation with Amazon discussing the returning of the gold, from what I see you haven't posted any proof of that either. If for some reason you don't have that, you could always let a trusted escrow into your Amazon account to prove that the status of your gold order is returned, or similar to that. But like I said, it's difficult to believe you with no solid proof that you returned the gold purchased from Amazon.

The fact that the cards were fraudulent and that they were sent by DjVoodoo has not been proven.
The only other time I left you a negative rating was because of this incident, and that was hardly a false negative rating (you took a PayPal MyCash cash but did not pay for it). I did remove the negative rating once you resolved the issue. Since you have insisted so many times that you returned a $1,300 gold coin to Amazon, I will revisit my rating once you can give some kind of documentation to support this.