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dazza22345

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Quote from: ja23 on July 05, 2017, 12:06:33 PM

So that Stratis platform is what caused that mess and the 24hr delay in the ICO?

Though I was kind of glad for the delay.

Decent decided to take care of distribution themselves
And the delay wasn't down to stratis either

chris_stratis
Im not into airing peoples dirty laundry! But lets get some facts strait, the agreement was to provide them with the ICO platform source code which we did, they "CLAIMED" to have developers but after we sent the source code they had no idea how to set it up or anyone to do so. Any delays or issues was down to them not having the resources they claimed

chris_stratis [7:23 PM]
Also, why did they wait 8 months to raise any issues?

[7:24]
I will tell you why, because they wanted to keep us cool, till distribution

[7:24]
Great business ethics

chris_stratis [7:25 PM]
During that time we provided them with additional support and the development of additional features at no extra cost

chris_stratis
And they raised no isses with paying us until one week before the payment was due

chris_stratis
Ask ICOCountdown to confirm the agreement that was in place
Posted in #generalToday at 7:26 PM

[7:26]
link
chris_stratis
I also have all the skype logs from the first conversations that took place

Anyways this is between the leadership of decent and the ceo of stratis to sort out. But considering there was an article done by decent blaming stratis, and decent going incognito and ignoring chris's attempts to sort this out I can understand why this has been made public

SwapStick

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Only 68 BTC to bring it back to 5000, care to post the dollar value on that ?

I'll save you the trouble,..it's $178,024.00

Good luck.

yo what's your problem with this token anyways? if you own 0 why you trying to trash the thread? Legit, explain... you're like that trash-ass R2D2 guy that shits on polybius thread. Like for real, get a life. If this 10k buy wall gets bought out. It will hit 5000

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Quote from: timvim on July 04, 2017, 03:36:06 PM

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Quote from: timvim on July 01, 2017, 08:11:17 AM

you can access ico reclaim because it is not on blockchain. But DGO is on blockchain so everything created there is permanent. So we can and we will distribute your tokens based on your email match between icoreclaim and go, but as you are not able to login on go, it is pretty much lost for you.

Sincerely,
Martin Smolka

According to Decent team, my investment is now lost forever. Still having slight hope they are able to sort this problem out...

this has to be discussed with our CEO Matej Michalko. We have for now 3 situations likes yours. But we can start investigation and 1:1 process after majority of ICO participants will get their tokens in usual way.

Let me know if it works for you.

Sincerely,
Martin Smolka

Decent team got back to me again and I am a bit reassured that they will be able to solve this so that I and the other two having this issue can get access to our investments

A sign of service mindedness from the support team. Will keep you guys updated when this is solved. I hope they are not just stalling during the launch.

Tim, this whole issue would have been ok, if they didn't make us re-enter the password tome the recovery phrase. They had to expect some people to F-Up the password. In my case, safari suggested a password in which I used, but then asked me if I wanted to overwrite the password used for the reclaim (nonbrlockchain site). I hit no. Little did I know that hitting no, meant it didn't save it at all!

I clicked the link in the verification email, and it said "success, now create your recovery phrase". Clicked on that, and BAM it asked me for my damn password. Well, Fn Safari only had the reclaim site password, of course. Therefore, no recovery phrase could be set and an account was made that will get my ICO coins and just sit there forever.

In my opinion, it was poorly programmed, and there should have been a failsafe method in place.

To make matters worse, I tried my login info before creating the account, as most of us did, and there was an error on their part. They have admitted to that. Therefore, had they not had their OWN programming error, we wouldn't have made accounts with lost passwords in the first place.

They seemed so nonchalant about telling us that, "oops. You will never have access to your coins that you so graciously earned by investing in our project, and waiting months for launch. Thanks but you're shit out of luck. Rest assured, we will enjoy spending the bitcoins you sent us."

It's all well and good that he proposed a CEO sit-down, but come on!!! It was their error in the first place, by releasing before the ICO login strategy was programmed correctly. EVERYONE was confused. Just most were fortunate to not have a password issue.

I, personally, will do anything I can to hurt this project, if I do not get my coins. And before all you suck-ups chime in, put yourselves in our shoes. All in all I love this project, but STEAL my coins on a an error that can just as easily be blamed on DECENT as it can on Safari, or my own F up; and I will quickly turn into the biggest Decent hater and basher. Not that it will do any good, but anyone in here would do the same, Except for maybe you, Tim lol.

I agree with you. But seeing that they will themselves transfer the balances manually from the reclaim portal to DGO, it would be totally bizarre if they just decided to transfer the coins to our faulty accounts anyway, when they know we cannot access it. It would be the simplest and most reasonable thing to just help us transfer to another account, as we can easily prove with 2FA login and recovery phrase from reclaim portal that we own our investments. That provided that it for some reason would be impossible to migrate our working ICO accounts to DGO, with or without a different username.

With the above said, that is why I think the team will resolve this. It would be extremely nonchalant and bizarre to just ignore our support tickets and transfer the coins to accounts they know are faulty, when there are ways to solve this with little effort, and we can easily prove ownership. There's just no way they can just sit back and steal our investment, especially given the circumstances. I truly think the Decent team are more professional than that, so they will work this out.

Still no update on this situation..

Decent team has now assured me I will get my invested DCT

Just later than the majority, but thats not a big deal for me since I'm in this long term.

Have anybody received a response to their tickets lately? I've been waiting for the team to response and process my payout. Eager to get mining going.

Still no coins, no response... 3 days now since they claimed all other investors who had done the reclaim process got their coins, after which I was promised they would handle my situation.

disconnectme

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why promised what you can't delivered or using a rigged system. I ended the ICO on the first minute, so I don't understand the criteria the team is using to distribute the tokens. The pre-sale investors are all given advantage over ICO investors

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Quote from: ja23 on July 05, 2017, 12:06:33 PM

So that Stratis platform is what caused that mess and the 24hr delay in the ICO?

Though I was kind of glad for the delay.

It is not to say that it was the platform that caused the problem. There could have been many reasons. Did they switch platform after the initial issue or did they continue on the Stratis platform? Whatever platform they used afterwards worked fine.

Tarz

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Quote from: ja23 on July 05, 2017, 12:06:33 PM

So that Stratis platform is what caused that mess and the 24hr delay in the ICO?

Though I was kind of glad for the delay.

Might be a massive DDOS attack. These days there are oodles of almost incomprehensible attack vectors and each kind of hardware is prone to downtime costs when that happens. If it wasn't what I thought it was another assumption would be that it was an issue directly related to humans that were preparing and negotiating everything the day it opened.

botija

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Every Coin i visit on Bitcointalk, 1st page is beautiful, then i click on the very last page, and it's full of complains, never fails.

Dev's need to get on their game, but today is an exception, it's 4th of july, some people celebrate.

This is so true, and it never fails.

I guess it's that no matter what, it's impossible for everything to go flawless. So when things are not flawless, the very few, even if it's just like 5, loudly complain.

Since I'm holding my DCT I claimed after the Dev said that those who reclaimed early got their coins. I claimed my coins on the 3rd, and they sent it to my account on the 4th. So from my perspective I can only assume the absolute vast majority of people got their coins. It took one day.

Then you have those who want the price to go low, so that they could cheap. Because lets face it, compared to most coins, this coin has a lot of things going on, and a lot of positive mile stones that will be achieved. If you look past the fuders, this thing has a lot to offer.

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Quote from: ja23 on July 05, 2017, 12:44:06 PM

Quote from: National on July 05, 2017, 12:30:43 PM

Quote from: dzarmush on July 05, 2017, 04:02:50 AM

Quote from: Geenstijl on July 05, 2017, 03:56:50 AM

This thread is full with disappointed investors who got screwed by this unfair distribution. They will all sell.

It's like making worse to themselves trying to spite decent team. Very smart
I started buying at 50, continued at 40 and then at 30. Let's go to 20, got my orders there too )

Its not making it worse for ourselves. 5 days later and I STILL don't have my coins. I knew from the start DECENT would never get me my coins until its far too late anyway. I'd rather be honest about the shitbaggery than sit here, watch this shit coin dump, while the devs cash out, and pray that they bless me with the stupid DCT they promised to give days ago.

Are you 100% sure you went through the correct process. Going to the reclaim.decent.com and claim your coins with your ICO email, the go to decentgo.com log in with the email and password that you used for the reclaim.

I got my coins the day after the launch (June 30th) was supposed to occur

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Quote from: National on July 05, 2017, 12:30:43 PM

Quote from: dzarmush on July 05, 2017, 04:02:50 AM

Quote from: Geenstijl on July 05, 2017, 03:56:50 AM

This thread is full with disappointed investors who got screwed by this unfair distribution. They will all sell.

It's like making worse to themselves trying to spite decent team. Very smart
I started buying at 50, continued at 40 and then at 30. Let's go to 20, got my orders there too )

Its not making it worse for ourselves. 5 days later and I STILL don't have my coins. I knew from the start DECENT would never get me my coins until its far too late anyway. I'd rather be honest about the shitbaggery than sit here, watch this shit coin dump, while the devs cash out, and pray that they bless me with the stupid DCT they promised to give days ago.

They said it would take up to 7 days

ja23

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Quote from: National on July 05, 2017, 12:30:43 PM

Quote from: dzarmush on July 05, 2017, 04:02:50 AM

Quote from: Geenstijl on July 05, 2017, 03:56:50 AM

This thread is full with disappointed investors who got screwed by this unfair distribution. They will all sell.

It's like making worse to themselves trying to spite decent team. Very smart
I started buying at 50, continued at 40 and then at 30. Let's go to 20, got my orders there too )

Its not making it worse for ourselves. 5 days later and I STILL don't have my coins. I knew from the start DECENT would never get me my coins until its far too late anyway. I'd rather be honest about the shitbaggery than sit here, watch this shit coin dump, while the devs cash out, and pray that they bless me with the stupid DCT they promised to give days ago.

Are you 100% sure you went through the correct process. Going to the reclaim.decent.com and claim your coins with your ICO email, the go to decentgo.com log in with the email and password that you used for the reclaim.

National

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Quote from: dzarmush on July 05, 2017, 04:02:50 AM

Quote from: Geenstijl on July 05, 2017, 03:56:50 AM

This thread is full with disappointed investors who got screwed by this unfair distribution. They will all sell.

It's like making worse to themselves trying to spite decent team. Very smart
I started buying at 50, continued at 40 and then at 30. Let's go to 20, got my orders there too )

Its not making it worse for ourselves. 5 days later and I STILL don't have my coins. I knew from the start DECENT would never get me my coins until its far too late anyway. I'd rather be honest about the shitbaggery than sit here, watch this shit coin dump, while the devs cash out, and pray that they bless me with the stupid DCT they promised to give days ago.

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Quote from: GGALINff on July 05, 2017, 12:11:36 PM

so...when will I get my ICO coins delivered
I did pay good BTC for them

and, I dont even want to dump them! I actually bought a few more on open market
I just want to be sure I have not been scammed

GGALINff

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so...when will I get my ICO coins delivered
I did pay good BTC for them

ja23

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So that Stratis platform is what caused that mess and the 24hr delay in the ICO?

Though I was kind of glad for the delay.

D3m0nKinGx

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Quote from: EarlyBirdSpecial on July 05, 2017, 11:41:50 AM

This broom closet bandit says that Decent hasn't paid them for launching on their ico platform?

https://decent.ch/en/the-explanation-of-decent-ico-initial-glitches

Quoted from the blog:

"DECENT ICO platform was based on the software used during Stratis ICO"

@DECENT please elaborate !

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Quote from: EarlyBirdSpecial on July 05, 2017, 11:41:50 AM

This broom closet bandit says that Decent hasn't paid them for launching on their ico platform?

And there you have it.

Not so Decent from their part.

I think that house upstate would be a safe investment now.

Tomahawkcoin

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LOl why don't you just go to a bank and get a 10M$ loan for your project, guess you can't because they will throw you out....

So instead you're trying to crowdfund your project with a coin.

Why didn't Tim Draper get a loan or use all his money to start a business, because he is in the business of making money, not giving money back or pay interest to a Bank

Why didn't Hillary used her money for her campaign ?

We already have a business, if people want value they need to become partners with us.

Buying Tomahawkcoin makes you just that, a partner with sharing profits and shares mean voting power.

All of the above offer no partnership, votes and Hillary never believed in herself, she believed in scams, and she paid the price, Trump on the other hand put his money where his mouth was, and guess what, he bet on himself and won.

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This broom closet bandit says that Decent hasn't paid them for launching on their ico platform?

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Quote from: Tomahawkcoin on July 05, 2017, 11:16:43 AM

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LOl why don't you just go to a bank and get a 10M$ loan for your project, guess you can't because they will throw you out....

So instead you're trying to crowdfund your project with a coin.

What project is this coin backed by ? A DEV that might have a hangover from the long weekend.

My company is already established LLC, we have 100 oil wells ready to be drilled, we'll incorporate 10 Wells for the 1st year with a revenue of over 5 Million dollars in one year of production.

A publicly traded company can cost up to 1 million dollars to be issued for public, we can stay private and share nothing, but instead we are willing to bring people to a valuable investment, the reason our coin will be redeemed back for stock certificate and removed from exchanges.

Besides BTC there's no other coin right now worth investing in, maybe trade but not invest. Two different things.

For over a year of Tomahawkcoin trading on the exchanges, interest will be high, since more coins means more shares when we go public, but otherwise what other coin out there is worth holding ? The answer is none.

Nobody can constantly promise value for a coin but for a limited period of time, eventually they all die out.

How many coins got listed on Bittrex and also got delisted, i owned a few that are relics now at the bottom of the ocean.

Because we understand what happens in the close future and the fate of every coin, we decided to eliminate that risk.

Many Dev's can't show their faces anywhere and some are behind bars.

We cannot afford bad publicity since we have a flawless background, shame and morals are a rare commodity in this world.

Not the case here.

Every time there's an ICO BTC value and ETH (which i think is a shit coin with many problems and a shit wallet that never loads), BTC and ETH drops, because the BTC chase is followed by the Dollar chase soon after, everyone wants BTC to cash for Dollars, nothing can beat the mighty dollar, as long as rent and salaries are all calculated in Dollars and not BTC.

Besides Dollars are protected by scams and dollar transactions are reversible, BTC owners have no means of protection, lost many BTC's to scams and I'm sure this thread is full of victims.

You didn't answer the question.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

LOl why don't you just go to a bank and get a 10M$ loan for your project, guess you can't because they will throw you out....

So instead you're trying to crowdfund your project with a coin.

What project is this coin backed by ? A DEV that might have a hangover from the long weekend.

My company is already established LLC, we have 100 oil wells ready to be drilled, we'll incorporate 10 Wells for the 1st year with a revenue of over 5 Million dollars in one year of production.

A publicly traded company can cost up to 1 million dollars to be issued for public, we can stay private and share nothing, but instead we are willing to bring people to a valuable investment, the reason our coin will be redeemed back for stock certificate and removed from exchanges.

Besides BTC there's no other coin right now worth investing in, maybe trade but not invest. Two different things.

For over a year of Tomahawkcoin trading on the exchanges, interest will be high, since more coins means more shares when we go public, but otherwise what other coin out there is worth holding ? The answer is none.

Nobody can constantly promise value for a coin but for a limited period of time, eventually they all die out.

How many coins got listed on Bittrex and also got delisted, i owned a few that are relics now at the bottom of the ocean.

Because we understand what happens in the close future and the fate of every coin, we decided to eliminate that risk.

Many Dev's can't show their faces anywhere and some are behind bars.

We cannot afford bad publicity since we have a flawless background, shame and morals are a rare commodity in this world.

Not the case here.

Every time there's an ICO BTC value and ETH (which i think is a shit coin with many problems and a shit wallet that never loads), BTC and ETH drops, because the BTC chase is followed by the Dollar chase soon after, everyone wants BTC to cash for Dollars, nothing can beat the mighty dollar, as long as rent and salaries are all calculated in Dollars and not BTC.

Besides Dollars are protected by scams and dollar transactions are reversible, BTC owners have no means of protection, lost many BTC's to scams and I'm sure this thread is full of victims.

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