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Aren't you "that guy" who is still waiting on his refund request to be processed?

Edit (Just for laughs):

Of course,
Why did you think the above wouldn't happen?

It is kinda obvious. I just added the finishing touches since I wanted to.

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The only "retards" are those who have to wait until the [rather] obvious actually happens in order to "be amazed". Some things are pretty predictable while others are truly a surprise.

I mentioned the delay with BFL last month and what Josh was likely leaving out and still this trajectory continues to play out. I also mentioned that bASIC was likely to "collapse" [for entirely different reasons] than it actually did. There is probably alot more drama going on in the background than the community has been clued into. (IMO)

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BFL is just another mess of a different kind. The retarded are the only ones who actually thought come Jan 14 they would somehow be shipping. There are numerous steps between the Chip Fab and the end product. Just the logistics of international transport of parts and customs clearance is enough to account for a large chunk of time.

Some out here in the community are so incredibly dim that they overlook various possibilities and facts and take the promises to heart that clearly overlook the obvious. Just the international logistics alone would let anyone with common sense understand that BFL was never going to be ready for Mid Jan.

Yet, idiots, are still waiting for Mid Jan 14 to be surprised.

At best BFL will ship in quantity in late January at the very soonest with a much higher likelihood of Feb in general.

^ bahahahahah

he has edited his drama scenarios numerous times thus far...


ding ding ding

Get your money back from BFL (before the rush) as they too are on the same path as bASIC.

They are going to announce another delay in Mid January so secure your $$$ or BTC while you still have time.

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By the way, you are the first customer to have mentioned them urging a customer to stay. Has this happened before to anyone else? I thought they always just confirmed the refund and that was it?

Sounds like the bASIC collapse has them on their toes themselves.....Especially with an announced delay in Mid January.

I predict that will be worth the premium pop-corn people eat during this fiasco.
I also predict the delay could not have come at a worse time than any other...they must know it too.

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Drama scenario:

BFL is siting on customer money with delayed ASIC chips. Now on their third or fourth delay.
BFL's competitor takes a tail spin and sells out...and can't refund orders fast enough.
BFL's competitor locks down their forum.
BFL begins to ask their own customers to reconsider refunding their orders in the wake of the panic of their competitor. Confidence is at an all time low.

Come mid-January:
BFL announces yet another delay. Promises starting the deliveries by the end of the month.
BFL customers assume they are pulling a bASIC scene on them.
BFL customers have the final straw and begin the next (and possibly final) wave of cancellations.

Avalon ships on time. (The turtle has now beat the hare to the finish line)

The BFL customer reps having nothing to say for themselves other than it will be out "soon".
They try to charm their customers by posting useless developments that in the end don't mean anything.
BFL customers ask for more than they paid, BFL refuses (already have multiple times).
Bad sentiments grow as their own customers see others getting their orders and start hashing like crazy.
The bad sentiments and anger grow as pictures of Avalon units are posted and the difficulty increases.
The post-wave cancellations come and BFL probably will do the same as bASIC.

The final straw that broke the camels back:

Avalon opens the second batch now accepting orders by the thousands. Taking in both bASIC and BFL customers from either company.

People either conform with the reality of the higher power usage or they stick it out for another  month (or more) without mining while waiting for bASIC and BFL.

It's a pity that Tom didn't learn from the experts in announcing delays. You don't go and announce 2 months delays and vague ownership changes, it scares everyone off. You announce, relax, don't worry, it'll be soon, more info coming, free tablet with purchase, check out these flashy lights, yadda yadda yadda. That way 4+ months delays are more easily swallowed.

Mm hmm.  If you bet on such a statement, consider the risk that BoB may not be around by the time it ends.

You think that's bad? Look at some of the ones that end in 3 or 5 years.

Im sorry man but you got SCAMMED.  Just read some of the other scammers threads.  The process is the same.  The positive side is that if this is a scam and you paid by credit card then Tom and his buddies could end up in jail.  Most of the scams on here have been for bitcoin so Tom might be the first bitcoiner to get locked up.   I would pursue this. 

If they would begin refunding some orders, it would probably do a lot to restore ppls confidence and stem the tide of requests.  Some may even un-cancel.  Even refunding 5% of the outstanding requests would do something to get the word out.

I suggest they start with mine, #726, #1678, and #1786.  I requested them about an hour before the "new chinese year year" post, so I expect it's one of the earlier ones in the queue (which I hope is a FIFO).

Tom and Dave, if you refund me, I promise I'll post about it here.  kthx.

Edit: So y'all can watch along at home, my refund request address is: 1upLmz8yxpzKCDpBGyVzu1Lv6vox7PMuQ  I'm expecting a refund in the amount of $2199.98.

Edit: I do see that Dave emailed me about 3 hours ago asking for clarification.  Replied just now.

I don't get the point of these ridiculous betsofbitcoin. I really have to tie up my Bitcoins for 11 months just to prove a point one way or the other? I'd rather bet with my wallet and order some damn ASICs, and in 11 months we'll see who's laughing.

BoB staff have not yet approved the statement for betting, so only the submitter (cablepair) can view it, while logged in.

In the meantime:

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1116 - bASIC mining devices will not ship before April 2013
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1128 - bASIC will not ship ASIC products in 2013

Until I see it ~ 400btc of that 500BTC bet is actually my money that Tom is gambling with.   Got an email from Dave (who seems legit and like he's actually trying his best) that I'll have my BTC today.  Will update if/when that happens.

Latest from Dave on a still locked down forum..

Boohoo on slowing things down regarding charge backs.. refunding should have been the number one priority the last couple days from TOM and DAVE and it clearly has not been..

If you remove one cable from cablepair and add a T and an E and then vigorously shake the whole concoction, it spells pirate. 

Why does this remind me of a scam that happened a little while ago?

EDIT: Link doesn't work? :/

So - Tipsy Tom instead of processing timely refunds is placing bets on his failures:



Pathetic

Are you serious?  Here's a link to my empty wallet, waiting for refunds from bASIC and BFL (I asked BFL yesterday, got a response today urging me to reconsider but it looks like at least BFL will refund me).  

http://blockexplorer.com/search/1CVmb947c2kGmQcQTjJFWAxMGRmEuLnnfW

Has anybody received a refund from bASIC?  

Again: that video is a joke right?  I ordered ASICs with my $4k+ , not this video.

You seem kinda melty.

Here, have a video of the bAsic ASIC hashing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANdvNeLuuDY

Why are you calling him "an ASIC vendor" ? He's at best "an ASIC pre-order vendor" and at worst a scammer. What the hell are all you people who "still believe" smoking?  It's more potent than anything we have in Vancouver obviously.  Is this all part of "bath salts" problem your having in the US?

bASIC is vaporware.  Whether or not the ASIANs finish the project and you end up with something in your hands, doesn't change the fact that Tom lied about the projects progress to his customers all along.  I likely could have dealt with delays etc and stood behind the project, *IF* there was transparency as promised.  All we got is a bunch of wishy washy delay tactics and syphilitic ramblings and you *dare* to call Tom an ASIC vendor?

Your not "customers sticking with Tom", your enabling his fraud to go on.  Your more like delusional victims of a cult, standing behind your crazy leader, no matter what.   Drink the koolaid, that's fine, but keep your thoughts on MY REFUND to yourself.  Your biased due to your puppy love for Tom, not to mention you have a financial stake in the scam.  Update: still zero btc refunded to me.  Will give it until tomorrow before I contact the authorities. 

Also greyhawk, your logic about BTC being useless to tom is flawed.  To answer your rhetorical question about it: he could hold on to it expecting it to go up in price, then sell as needed rather than dump it all (all I want is my btc back myself, so I can hold it, so why is that so unlikely?).   BTW: still ZERO BTC refunded.