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March 29, 2016, 12:32:02 PM
This isn't the craziest shit in the bible... but who doesn't love some good rules about how to treat virgin daughters and their rapist?

Quote from: Deuteronomy 22:13-29
If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. They shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives.

If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.

If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.

If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
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March 29, 2016, 12:20:36 PM
If Adam and Eve had 2 children, Cain and Able...

And, Cain murders Able...

How are we here?

Did Cain have sex with his mother?

Did Adam and Eve have a daughter not mentioned in the bible?

Did Cain have sex with his not-important-enough-to-be-mentioned sister?

You should read Bible and you will know answer Smiley
After Cain killed Abel Adam and Eve got third son- Seth.
Bible didn't mention other, female children of Adam and Eve, or maybe other families (probably because such fact wasn't historically important) but surely Cain and Seth had wives and kids, as in every other family Smiley

So you are saying Cain married his sister?  Even though God forbade it?

Quote from: Leviticus 18:9
Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere.

Quote from: Leviticus 20:17
If a man marries his sister, the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They are to be publicly removed from their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible

Quote from: Deuteronomy 27:22
“Cursed is anyone who sleeps with his sister, the daughter of his father or the daughter of his mother.”

Then all the people shall say, “Amen!”

Also, why does God repeat himself so much in the bible?  It would be a lot shorter if he didn't have to repeat himself 3+ times with everything he says...
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March 29, 2016, 11:56:23 AM
If Adam and Eve had 2 children, Cain and Able...

And, Cain murders Able...

How are we here?

Did Cain have sex with his mother?

Did Adam and Eve have a daughter not mentioned in the bible?

Did Cain have sex with his not-important-enough-to-be-mentioned sister?

You should read Bible and you will know answer Smiley
After Cain killed Abel Adam and Eve got third son- Seth.
Bible didn't mention other, female children of Adam and Eve, or maybe other families (probably because such fact wasn't historically important) but surely Cain and Seth had wives and kids, as in every other family Smiley
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March 29, 2016, 10:45:27 AM
If Adam and Eve had 2 children, Cain and Able...

And, Cain murders Able...

How are we here?

Did Cain have sex with his mother?

Did Adam and Eve have a daughter not mentioned in the bible?

Did Cain have sex with his not-important-enough-to-be-mentioned sister?
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March 23, 2016, 11:38:13 PM
the Septuagint ?
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March 23, 2016, 10:35:02 AM
Yes, there is some crazy stuff in the Bible. However, I think that it's crazy for our world and wasn't something unusual at those times.

the crazy stuff is a new bible came from this era , if you use the 1st bible there is no crazy stuff

What are you talking about?  The Hebrew bible?  That's where MOST of the crazy shit happens...
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March 23, 2016, 10:30:45 AM
Yes, there is some crazy stuff in the Bible. However, I think that it's crazy for our world and wasn't something unusual at those times.

the crazy stuff is a new bible came from this era , if you use the 1st bible there is no crazy stuff
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March 23, 2016, 10:26:26 AM
Every time that we are talking about our religion from one another, we will be having a big misunderstanding. All of us have different beliefs or should I say we are all thought differently when it comes to our religion. I do respect my friend’s religion even if we are all different because this is what they choose to become. That's why it would be better if we don't talk about it.
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March 23, 2016, 03:13:25 AM
Yes, there is some crazy stuff in the Bible. However, I think that it's crazy for our world and wasn't something unusual at those times.
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March 23, 2016, 12:31:04 AM
Everyone deserves respect for what they believe in. No matter how out of the ordinary it shall seem.
So you respect ISIS and their beliefs?
No, I thought not.

Respect has to be earned, not given out free whoever stamps their feet demanding it.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease
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March 23, 2016, 12:04:59 AM
Everyone deserves respect for what they believe in. No matter how out of the ordinary it shall seem.
So you respect ISIS and their beliefs?
No, I thought not.

Respect has to be earned, not given out free whoever stamps their feet demanding it.

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March 22, 2016, 08:55:50 PM
I think its not the bible that is holy that has some crazy shit written in them?
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March 22, 2016, 08:49:00 PM
The Bible was written more than a hundred years ago. Thinking was just different back then so it's definitely a strange era. I do realize there are still people out there today that believe in the Bible. For all we know, the Bible could actually be speaking some truth. It's difficult to know what's real and what's not real sometimes, so I try to make sure I can just respect everyone's religious beliefs and move on from it. I myself knew if I ever had a religious belief, I wouldn't take too kindly to my beliefs being insulted and threatened. Everyone deserves respect for what they believe in. No matter how out of the ordinary it shall seem.
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March 21, 2016, 09:50:07 PM
It is just religious stories, with more symbolic meanings, that help to guide people throughout life through morals and standards. Don't take it so literal or personally.
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March 18, 2016, 10:44:40 PM
This thread is hilarious.  Cheesy

It didn't take long before the Christians started frothing at the mouth and wringing their hands over the topic title, and quickley blundered into the thread to defend themselves.
This is understandable of course, and also where the amusement begins.

In order to defend their guilt of saying crazy stuff as per topic title, they have no choice but to say crazy stuff to cover up the original accusation of saying crazy stuff.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
So in fact they have inadvertently handed us confirmation that they indeed do say crazy stuff.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The wise Christians kept off the thread, the foolish ones posted.

Similar to telling a small lie, then having to tell a bigger lie to cover up the first lie... sooner or later you have a web of lies that only a great fool could believe
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March 18, 2016, 03:44:54 PM
This thread is hilarious.  Cheesy

It didn't take long before the Christians started frothing at the mouth and wringing their hands over the topic title, and quickley blundered into the thread to defend themselves.
This is understandable of course, and also where the amusement begins.

In order to defend their guilt of saying crazy stuff as per topic title, they have no choice but to say crazy stuff to cover up the original accusation of saying crazy stuff.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
So in fact they have inadvertently handed us confirmation that they indeed do say crazy stuff.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The wise Christians kept off the thread, the foolish ones posted.


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March 18, 2016, 02:16:01 PM
so whats the point here. i didnt get that. these are the crazy shit seen by anyone who could read the fucking newspaper too

The difference is people read the newspaper with a grain of salt... they don't think it was written by God...

Right. Not believing the things written in the newspaper won't send you to Hell... while not believing the major things of the Bible will.

Says who?  The bible itself?

If the newspaper said it was written by God, and you would go to hell for not believing every word they printed... would you believe that too?

The newspaper is so beneath the Bible, that the Bible doesn't even mention it.

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March 18, 2016, 02:14:32 PM
so whats the point here. i didnt get that. these are the crazy shit seen by anyone who could read the fucking newspaper too

The difference is people read the newspaper with a grain of salt... they don't think it was written by God...

Right. Not believing the things written in the newspaper won't send you to Hell... while not believing the major things of the Bible will.

Says who?  The bible itself?

If the newspaper said it was written by God, and you would go to hell for not believing every word they printed... would you believe that too?
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March 18, 2016, 02:05:20 PM
so whats the point here. i didnt get that. these are the crazy shit seen by anyone who could read the fucking newspaper too

The difference is people read the newspaper with a grain of salt... they don't think it was written by God...

Right. Not believing the things written in the newspaper won't send you to Hell... while not believing the major things of the Bible will.

Cool
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March 18, 2016, 02:03:17 PM
There isn't any crazy stuff in the Bible. There are only those who interpret some Bible things as crazy. They do it because they are the ones who are crazy, and interpret many other wonderful things as being crazy, as well.

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You are an ignorant imbecile. And that is a complement.

You are ignoring most of the crazy shit in the Bible.  A book on which you base your world view.

I wish you Christians clean up your Bible, drop the vile BS and publish a new version.

Ignoring the crazy stuff will not make them go away.  The crazy shit is right there.  Read the OP for verses.


Sounds like offering you eternal life with God in Heaven is crazy, right? But God is so great, and eternity is so long, that we need even an ignoramus like you just to have a little company up there. So come and join us in Christianity, because it will be a lot worse for you in Hell.

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I would.  It sounds all good, except it is not true

Huston, we have a problem!

Except that you don't know that it is not true. So your faith is in something else.

Make the conscious decision to believe in God, so that you at least have the chance at eternal life. After all, you control enough of your faith that you can change it. And, by both accounts, your faith, and God-faith, you are damned.

At least, if you turn to God faith, you have a chance.

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