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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 10, 2022, 09:07:31 AM

But yesterday I decided to check the posts again. And I found another similar practice.

Thanks for making effort. This is a good finding, but again it proves that the problem is with the tool I use for posting.
There seems to be a bug in the code I'm using to post (CMD, python file) that makes this pattern recursive, and since my posts are paid I'll decide the following:

Back to using Google Chrome.
If anyone finds any recurring pattern I will stop posting and will not log in again.
If anyone finds a recurring pattern you can give a red flag/trust (now I made it easier for those looking for a cause or saying paid posts)

There is no reason to believe me, but at least you have my word and I hope this helps in resolving the issue.

As for the reason, unfortunately I do not keep the log file for more than a month, will try to restore it and I will write the response here when found it.

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Quote from: Lucius on July 09, 2022, 07:11:46 AM

You have proven that your posts are not part of a natural process, but that you use various suspicious methods that lead you to these situations.

You asked a question, I answered and now you accuse me, if we are going to follow someone's activity we must at least be impartial and leave emotions aside.

Look at @lovesmayfamilis reply, it's a responsible and balanced, I respected him/her even though s/he was the one who reported my post.

I hope you don't find yourself in a situation where people accused you because of (something) you did in the past. Cheesy

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Quote from: decodx on July 09, 2022, 05:42:17 AM

I'm sorry, but you're mistaken again. This is exactly why neutral feedback is for.
Your inability or unwillingness to understand even the simplest rules on this forum explains why you make so many mistakes here. Maybe you will get a better understanding of the Trust system after you read LoyceV's Beginners guide.

can you teach me? Huh

I can't find what you are trying to say.

I will try to quote this part

Quote from: LoyceV on October 10, 2019, 10:37:17 AM

Don't leave negative feedback when someone violates the forum rules. Instead, use Report to moderator for rule violations.

and your trust feedback say

Quote from: LoyceV on October 10, 2019, 10:37:17 AM

Be the bigger man!
If someone on the internet is mean to you: boo fucking hoo! Use the Ignore button, and forget about them.

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I will tag his account to at least remember this case if I ever run into this member again in a thread.

How you can remember my account and trust not appear on discussions board?

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Quote from: Lucius on July 08, 2022, 09:11:31 AM

I didn't want to open a new topic, but this is really strange behavior - because if someone in the same topic makes an identical post only 2 hours apart, then he/she are really lost in space/time, or is it a consequence of handling many alt accounts?

I don't know, but if i want to spam, I will post on different topics, or at least the same replay.
Read the post carefully and you will notice that it is a mistake as the difference between the two responses is one word.

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It's all right, Husires does not change anything,

Can you prove it? I have stopped using the bot since March.
Ratimov, we are in a friendly society, we should treat each other with respect, you've been making accusations against me without proving anything.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on July 09, 2022, 04:02:35 AM

I reported his double post. I looked at his earlier posts and didn't find any more duplicates. Sometimes this happens with other users, but with this account already having shown itself in a bad way once, each error glows with red flags.

Thank you. and thanks for confirming that there are no duplicate posts.

Quote from: decodx on July 09, 2022, 03:34:38 AM

Well... his explanation was the biggest load of horseshit I've ever seen, and it's even funnier that he was asking the members who called him out for an apology. I will tag his account to at least remember this case if I ever run into this member again in a thread.

This is funny, but unfortunately trust does not appear in discussion boards.
and tagging because of posting is something against the trust system that you abuse.

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Whoever reads the topic thinks that I do these topics daily. I started doing this about 8 months ago, it is 18 "duplicate themes" with an average of 4 topics per month, locked topics, mostly in Archival with less than 20 views. Is this the spam?

I think it should be still considered as spam. And I do not find out the reason same topic for multiple times. If you need more view of your topic then you should bump (Bring out my post) the topic. And you can bump your topic once a day by deleting previous bump post. I think you know very well about it.

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Quote from: examplens on July 11, 2022, 05:43:59 AM

Quote from: Husires on July 10, 2022, 08:17:59 PM

--snip--

I am very curious, why are you testing tools and some bots on the live version of the forum?
Here is nothing spectacular that you cannot test on a demo platform. SMF 1.1.19 script is still available for download on the Internet. find a free server or even install it on your computer and test whatever you want.

shouldn't your posts contain some warning that it is testing and that it is not considered serious, because it will most likely be deleted?

Although theymos perform some modification on SMF 1.1.19, i agree you could self-host SFM to test your script. At very least, you could use different account and choose Off-topic/Archival board for testing. I've seen some people test their bot, script or BBcode there.

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Quote from: Husires on July 10, 2022, 08:17:59 PM

Thanks for making effort. This is a good finding, but again it proves that the problem is with the tool I use for posting.
There seems to be a bug in the code I'm using to post (CMD, python file) that makes this pattern recursive, and since my posts are paid I'll decide the following:

Back to using Google Chrome.
If anyone finds any recurring pattern I will stop posting and will not log in again.
If anyone finds a recurring pattern you can give a red flag/trust (now I made it easier for those looking for a cause or saying paid posts)

There is no reason to believe me, but at least you have my word and I hope this helps in resolving the issue.

As for the reason, unfortunately I do not keep the log file for more than a month, will try to restore it and I will write the response here when found it.

I am very curious, why are you testing tools and some bots on the live version of the forum?
Here is nothing spectacular that you cannot test on a demo platform. SMF 1.1.19 script is still available for download on the Internet. find a free server or even install it on your computer and test whatever you want.

shouldn't your posts contain some warning that it is testing and that it is not considered serious, because it will most likely be deleted?

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Quote from: Husires on July 10, 2022, 08:17:59 PM

but again it proves that the problem is with the tool I use for posting.

This is such stupid excuse Roll Eyes

You are the one who is using and controlling this ''tool'' so that means that YOU are responsible for this spam duplicate topics, and if you continue using it I think you deserve to be punished with signature ban or temporary ban.
I don't know why you can't use this forum and write like all other human beings, but for now I will give you neutral feedback on your profile.

Quote from: Jawhead999 on July 10, 2022, 08:52:44 PM

Leaving red trust and flag due to this case aren't correct, but neutral flag and asking campaign manager to look this case are enough.

I agree and that is what I did, but moderators should also look at this case.

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Quote from: Husires on July 10, 2022, 08:17:59 PM

If anyone finds any recurring pattern I will stop posting and will not log in again.

Just stop to use your tool right now and start posting through this forum without any tool, why you need to wait other user find another of your "bug". This will end of this drama and if anyone find your next duplicate posts, then it's not about your "tool", but your behavior.

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If anyone finds a recurring pattern you can give a red flag/trust (now I made it easier for those looking for a cause or saying paid posts)

Leaving red trust and flag due to this case aren't correct, but neutral flag and asking campaign manager to look this case are enough.

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And this is where the problem really arose.
Why is this report flagged as bad?

In the topic, Lucius complained about the repeated post. I sent a report to a duplicate post, and it turned out to be good.

But yesterday I decided to check the posts again. And I found another similar practice.

Why is this report flagged as bad?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60077131 https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6007/60077131.html
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/victory-for-cryto-5397746 https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6007/60077181.html

Husires, I also noticed double posts in other sections. But you quickly removed them. These posts were mainly in June.

Also, what do you say about these topics? After your accusation, one topic was deleted. But in June, you publish it again.
Was the March accusation not enough for you?

https://ninjastic.space/post/60317914
https://ninjastic.space/post/59687953

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Quote from: Husires on July 09, 2022, 05:59:41 AM

Quote from: decodx on July 09, 2022, 05:42:17 AM

I'm sorry, but you're mistaken again. This is exactly why neutral feedback is for.
Your inability or unwillingness to understand even the simplest rules on this forum explains why you make so many mistakes here. Maybe you will get a better understanding of the Trust system after you read LoyceV's Beginners guide.

can you teach me? Huh

I can't find what you are trying to say.

Not gonna happen! You're all on your own.

Quote from: Husires on July 09, 2022, 05:59:41 AM

How you can remember my account and trust not appear on discussions board?

Don't give up. It will come to you. Wink

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Quote from: Husires on July 09, 2022, 04:59:58 AM

I don't know, but if i want to spam, I will post on different topics, or at least the same replay.
Read the post carefully and you will notice that it is a mistake as the difference between the two responses is one word.

You have proven that your posts are not part of a natural process, but that you use various suspicious methods that lead you to these situations. Personally, I don't think that you are the only problem with such behavior, the bigger problem is those managers who take you into their campaigns in order to fill all the spots.

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Quote from: Husires on July 09, 2022, 04:59:58 AM

Quote from: decodx on July 09, 2022, 03:34:38 AM

Well... his explanation was the biggest load of horseshit I've ever seen, and it's even funnier that he was asking the members who called him out for an apology. I will tag his account to at least remember this case if I ever run into this member again in a thread.

This is funny, but unfortunately trust does not appear in discussion boards.
and tagging because of posting is something against the trust system that you abuse.

I'm sorry, but you're mistaken again. This is exactly why neutral feedback is for.
Your inability or unwillingness to understand even the simplest rules on this forum explains why you make so many mistakes here. Maybe you will get a better understanding of the Trust system after you read LoyceV's Beginners guide.

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I reported his double post. I looked at his earlier posts and didn't find any more duplicates. Sometimes this happens with other users, but with this account already having shown itself in a bad way once, each error glows with red flags.

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Well... his explanation was the biggest load of horseshit I've ever seen, and it's even funnier that he was asking the members who called him out for an apology. I will tag his account to at least remember this case if I ever run into this member again in a thread.

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I didn't want to open a new topic, but this is really strange behavior - because if someone in the same topic makes an identical post only 2 hours apart, then he/she are really lost in space/time, or is it a consequence of handling many alt accounts?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/visa-launches-an-exclusive-no-limit-bitcoin-card-5405523 (archived)

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Quote from: RapTarX on March 17, 2022, 12:08:52 PM

How come no has noticed that before? Why would even he try this?

It is because maximum posts has no reply forum members just noticed posts and gave merit. Almost no interact on the topic. And also, many a time no one research about the duplicate of the post. Also, the posts weren't on the same board while new posts created. While new post created the old post on archival (maximum case) and this has been happened for nothing but for merit.

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Whoever reads the topic thinks that I do these topics daily. I started doing this about 8 months ago, it is 18 "duplicate themes" with an average of 4 topics per month, locked topics, mostly in Archival with less than 20 views. Is this the spam?

It's not just spam, it's a complete mess, and you know it.

I quoted a few posts so that you see the mess for yourself. Posts that have members discussing or asking are having OP deleted but still open. Some that are intact and have a few or no replies are abandoned or locked, some moved to archival (which is OK). If you want to test your so-called bot, then at least label the title as "Testing" and be smart enough to move all your tested topics to archival, just like most members have been doing.

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So you agree with me that they are locked and with 0 reply, right?

Where have I agreed with you on that?
Looks like you are not getting my point

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As for the reason, it is because I move them to Archival manually, and to prove it:

Check the date the topics were created.
Ask the admin for my log-out date.

You will find that most of the topics that I have not moved, I logged out after that and have not logged in again for a while,

I had no idea, it's so hard to move test topics to archival Shocked

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Did you read my previous responses? I did not look for increasing views of my topics, check the total number of views and you will find less than 20.
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Did you read the comments above again?
Besides why do I need to do this, I rarely participate in many signature campaigns, and I am not active in the forum?

Of course, I read before responding... genius Wink

Not participating in a signature campaign shouldn't be an excuse to spam or cause a mess in the forum

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4. Assuming some 50 members did exactly what you have been doing, do you think discussions in the forum would be cool?

When we talk about discussion, we are talking about open topics, not locked one, mostly in Archival

You haven't answered my question.

I can see threads with deleted OP and replies plus questions but still Open, and then posts with intact OP but locked. Do you like such a mess?
How about we do it x50?

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click on report bottom Cheesy

You asked us to point out the rule you were breaking, I showed you.

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Here another question is in the air, how long were you going to copy your takes? Why not honestly warn that you do not need merits? All your “tests” could be known to users if you honestly warned everyone that there were already similar topics, and you are just fond of experiments.
Of course, now you can come up with anything that is even funnier, demanding an apology.
Let everyone who creates themes from this day will begin to duplicate in your way.
And for those who will stumble upon the same topics, “déjà vu” will begin to appear, that it was somewhere and once.
Ratimov, you could tag him with a neutral tag to warn everyone that this user requires careful study of the topics he created.

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It still doesn't make sense. You claim you moved all your duplicate posts to the archival board, but this is not true. Just from some random topics, this is what I got. I added some notes about the status of the thread

Quote from: Symmetrick on March 17, 2022, 11:48:29 AM

- [GUIDE] Cryptocurrency Spoofing/Wash Selling - 1 merits - Created by August 31, 2021, 11:14:30 AM - Archive - OP deleted, Still In trading discussion, contains replies.
- [GUIDE] Cryptocurrency Spoofing/Wash Selling - 0 merits - Created by November 22, 2021, 07:29:25 PM - Archive - Moved to Archival, No replies
- [GUIDE] Wash Selling - 0 merits - Created by December 16, 2021, 06:45:50 PM - Archive - Moved to archival, No replies
- [GUIDE] Cryptocurrency Spoofing/Wash Selling - 0 merits - Created by March 06, 2022, 03:07:03 PM - Archive - Still in trading discussion, No replies

- Crypto Portfolio Diversification - 6 merits - Created by July 18, 2021, 05:22:06 PM - Archive - OP deleted, Still in Beginners and Help, contains replies
- Crypto Portfolio Diversification - 0 merits - Created by September 25, 2021, 02:14:20 PM - Archive - Moved to Archival, no replies
- Crypto Portfolio Diversification - 0 merits - Created by December 22, 2021, 04:52:05 PM - Archive - Still in Altcoin discussion, Thread locked, No replies.

I could go on and on, but this should be enough to highlight what I want to understand.

1. What's the point of all this?
2. Is it too hard to bump an old topic you want other members to view?
3. Is it a must to create the same topic every other month when you run out of content to post?
4. Assuming some 50 members did exactly what you have been doing, do you think discussions in the forum would be cool?

Quote from: Husires on March 19, 2022, 12:07:28 PM

Until this moment, I have answered to all the questions, no one has proven that I violated Bitcointalk rules,

How about this?

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

12. No duplicate posting in multiple boards (except for re-posting topics in the local language boards if they're translated and re-posting marketplace topics in the altcoin boards if altcoins are accepted).

No?

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Quote from: NotATether on March 19, 2022, 11:40:12 AM

what is the point of creating the topic again with the AutoReply bot? Huh

Check the code here: https://github.com/Aero-Blue/BTalk-AutoReply, the autoreply bot works to re-pump topics after checking that it has been about 24 hours since the last "bump" and not to create new topics.

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As for the reason why I do this, this is because i edit this bot AutoReply v1.0, and long topics are suitable for that im trying to do, is there a rule that prevents re-writing my topics? Huh

What I'm trying to do I explained above.

Update:

Until this moment, I have answered to all the questions, no one has proven that I violated Bitcointalk rules, and it has not been proven that I got more than one merit per topic. I will consider this topic locked, although I had hoped to find apology from Ratimov.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I'm going to stop it using my main account and I'll do some testing with @Husires_bot though I'm thinking about setting up my SMF.

Thanks everyone, I'm going to bed now, it's a little late here.

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I still don't understand. If it's not for merit (as you say), then what is the point of creating the topic again with the AutoReply bot? Huh

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Husires, I hope you have the courage to admit that you are a "plagiarist" and topic duplicates abuser. The curtain.

You make yourself ridiculous, if you search a little you will find that I am writing:

Quote from: ?? on ??

Step2: Bot summarizing news and articles. I've been doing this manually in the threads that were mentioned above.

I was thinking of making a bot that would do a news feed, where it would be automatically created in press/Economics board and summarizing some good articles from Binance academy/Reddit/Quora.
The source of the news will not be RSS updates, topic will be summarized in txt file, pass to Step1 and created automatically.

Do you want to apologize for this part?

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especially for those merit sources who sent merit to newly created duplicates of old topics (I was one of such sources)
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misleads other users who send him merit, write posts in his topics, and he just does these the topics are inactive,

Quote from: khaled0111 on March 19, 2022, 10:10:47 AM

@Husires, you should test your bot only on the archival or off-topic or even better: install SMF on your machine and make your tests there.

[i]just my 2 sats[/i]

I think the reason here is the paid signature. I do not take posting seriously and post from time to time (1200 posts from 2018) so I use my main account.
Today I created this bot account. @Husires_bot

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Just because you weren't sent merits by the same person twice doesn't mean that re-posting and then getting merits is normal practice.

Your merit fishing tactics were normal? Especially those plagiarized themes. Collecting information from different Russian websites, translate them in English then take credit by saying, "in this theme I will lecture you how to become a merit whore" blab blab. It's funny how a merit whore argue and wants to make a valid point.

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Can you explain to forum members when you sent merits to any of my "duplicate themes" twice?

Source: https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Husires&from=Ratimov

Husires, are you saying Ratimov did not send merit to the duplicated topic? If that's true then the whore lied when said this:

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especially for those merit sources who sent merit to newly created duplicates of old topics (I was one of such sources). Personally

And now note this:

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Just because you weren't sent merits by the same person twice

The merit whore also said this:

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I was not too lazy and checked absolutely all your topics

It's now confusing me what part of his claim is actually true.
1. Did he checked all your topics?
2. Did he lied intentionally to make things bad for you and make his claims more solid?

If you say that Ratimov did not send any merit to the duplicated topic but he came up with these nice claims against you with also saying he was the one who sent merits to duplicate topics then I would say he exaggerated when he said I was one of such sources, and I would also say all these are nothing but another merit finishing from an elite merit whore.

Edit: Reposted as the post above^{[https://ninjastic.space/post/59574934]} it was deleted and posted again^{[https://ninjastic.space/post/59575488]}

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Husires, those accusations were made at the end of 2020 and they were based on the fact that I copy someone else's text and use it in my topics, but when I use someone else's text, I do not quote it or highlight it as a quote. Yes, I copied other people's texts, but I always left links, just like you, at the end of the text.

Quote from: Merit whore

In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme

Before: https://ninjastic.space/post/55742220
After: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5296174
Merit whore 😉

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To be honnest, I don't think Husires' intention was to fish for merits. He started doing this a year ago and it's obvious that the duplicate threads didn't receive any signifant amount of merits, so why did he keep doing it if it's not working!
I'll give him the benifit of the doubt and believe his story.

However, he should stop doing this at least till he fixes his bot as this is not how a discussion forum is meant to be used.
@Husires, you should test your bot only on the archival or off-topic or even better: install SMF on your machine and make your tests there.
just my 2 sats

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 19, 2022, 08:35:21 AM

Two wrong do not make it right. Besides, something seems wrong to others don't need to be wrong for you. If you are doing this for the purpose of the bot then just continue. Don't bother of the discussion here.

All I'm looking for is an apology, if not for the whole topic, I hope Ratimov will be brave and apologize for this part, which has been proven wrong.

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especially for those merit sources who sent merit to newly created duplicates of old topics (I was one of such sources).

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misleads other users who send him merit,

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 19, 2022, 08:35:21 AM

Husires did not do anything wrong in terms of breaking the forum rules. The same applied to Ratimov with his Plagiarist themes.

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Does this prove you wrong?
Can anyone prove anything wrong I'm doing?

* Merit Source - Plagiarist (#2627711 “Ratimov”)

Two wrong do not make it right. Besides, something seems wrong to others don't need to be wrong for you. If you are doing this for the purpose of the bot then just continue. Don't bother of the discussion here.

Husires did not do anything wrong in terms of breaking the forum rules. The same applied to Ratimov with his Plagiarist themes. What makes me laugh that a merit whore is protecting his territory so that others do not become his competition LOL I would find this topic very normal if this would discovered by some other members than a guy who has devoted his entire life to fish merit on the forum.

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Quote from: Husires on March 18, 2022, 09:28:59 AM

If I'm doing this for merits, why am I locking the thread and archiving it directly? Look at the number of views in my topics in the archive and you will find that it is less than 20, is this the behavior of someone looking for merits? Huh

ok, maybe you're not doing it for merit, but if your threads didn't get single merit, this means that no one recognized them as useful. this is just one more reason not to repost topics that are not accepted as useful.
it could be concluded that you are doing unnecessary spam on the forum.

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Step2: Bot summarizing news and articles. I've been doing this manually in the threads that were mentioned above.

I was thinking of making a bot that would do a news feed, where it would be automatically created in press/Economics board and summarizing some good articles from Binance academy/Reddit/Quora.
The source of the news will not be RSS updates, topic will be summarized in txt file, pass to Step1 and created automatically.

your posts ^{mentioned in OP} so far don't look like a bot deals with a news feed.

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I don't know what kind of exclusion you're talking about, but i expect some user/merit source already add this user to ignore list.

Probably all campaign managers can exclude them from their campaign.
user himself says that he is not particularly interested in campaign signatures

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Quote from: FatFork on March 18, 2022, 04:37:23 PM

Whether it was for merit hunting or not, this isn't an appropriate use of the forum. If all you wanted to do was test your bot, you could do it with just one topic, not a dozen.

Again:

1. I was moving topics immediately after creating them, checking the number of views for each topic.
2. I rarely participate in signature campaigns, check it out, and most of these topics are not paid (I think my all paid posts are less than 5 months since 2018.)
3. Let's say it's an offense with 49 merits (8% of my total merits) currently i have about 255 sendable merit and I can abuse it to get more merits than the above.
4. One topic or dozen, this is up to me, the point here is the abuse of merits, which I can discuss in detail.
5. Above I made two replies in a row, @mod will delete one of them and edited my reply, and I can say @mprep read this topic, specifically this part “Anyway, I will continue to do this using a bot account @Husires_bot (I will create it within 24 hours) if there is any rule that prevents re-posting articles I have written, please let me know.”, and did not take any action, which means it is not against the forum rules.
6. I will continue to do it using this account.

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Quote from: Husires on March 18, 2022, 10:04:41 AM

Quote from: Apocollapse on March 18, 2022, 09:58:53 AM

It's not about the post got paid or not, but you create those thread intended only to earn merits for applying a campaign.

So why do I locked it and move it directly to the archive? I hope that the administrators have access to log time of moving topics, but the number of views proves that no one has seen them, so how will I get merits?

If you hadn't moved the topic to Archival, you would have violated the forum rules by duplicate posting and self-plagiarism.
Honestly, I don't buy your explanation. Whether it was for merit hunting or not, this isn't an appropriate use of the forum. If all you wanted to do was test your bot, you could do it with just one topic, not a dozen.

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Anyway, I will continue to do this using a bot account @Husires_bot ...

I strongly advise you not to do this.

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Quote from: Husires on March 18, 2022, 09:28:59 AM

As for the reason why I do this, this is because i edit this bot AutoReply v1.0, and long topics are suitable for that im trying to do, is there a rule that prevents re-writing my topics? Huh

Thank you for your explanation.
Can you please explain what this bot is used or will be used for? What I have got; you are trying to auto reply on threads through the use of the bot? What's the purpose? If I'm correct, I have seen at least one user who is constantly posting through a bot in the WO thread with bitcoin chart only.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on March 18, 2022, 09:58:53 AM

It's not about the post got paid or not, but you create those thread intended only to earn merits for applying a campaign.

So why do I locked it and move it directly to the archive? I hope that the administrators have access to log time of moving topics, but the number of views proves that no one has seen them, so how will I get merits?

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No, actual number is 13, I earned 667 Cheesy

Where 13 is came from?
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your number: 49
There are 21 I miscalculated and so on for the rest of the points.

49-21+3-8-5-2-3=13

But suppose you are correct and i earned 49 out of 667, how will benefit me by joining a signature campaign? Note the number of signature campaigns I joined from the date my account was created.

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Quote from: Husires on March 18, 2022, 09:43:17 AM

Plus, most of these topics are not paid, I don't join a lot of signature campaigns, and anyone can check it out.

It's not about the post got paid or not, but you create those thread intended only to earn merits for applying a campaign. The higher 120 days merits earned will increase the chance you will got accepted isn't?

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No, actual number is 13*, I earned 667 Cheesy

* 49-21+3-8-5-2-3

Lol, look the date.

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He did it very neatly, activist is copying himself is done not without a reason, I can say he is trying to mislead other users to send some merit on the same topic. He had done the same tactic over and over again, deleting then copying back to make it looks like a new thread. Excluding this user would be better as a punishment for the unethical act committed.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on March 18, 2022, 09:40:46 AM

If you want to make your thread got interested, you can bump your topic every 24 hour and delete the previous bump.

No, I am trying to modify the script above so that you can create topics without being connected*. It's not about replies, but about creating topics.

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Nope, but it's unethical.

Unethical? If I am aiming for merits, I will not move them directly to the archive.
Plus, most of these topics are not paid, I don't join a lot of signature campaigns, and anyone can check it out.
I hope that the administrators have a list of timing for moving topics, you will find that most of them are moved to the archive as soon as they are created.

* offline Auto topic at XX-XX-XXXX TIME XX:XX

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Count the bolded part, it's 49 merits not 4 merits Smiley

No, actual number is 13*, I earned 667 Cheesy

* 49-21+3-8-5-2-3

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If I'm doing this for merits, why am I locking the thread and archiving it directly? Look at the number of views in my topics in the archive and you will find that it is less than 20, is this the behavior of someone looking for merits? Huh

Check number of views

As you see, all my "duplicate themes" did not get merits for that same reason.

As for signature campaigns, I only joined 3 campaigns, and withdrew from one of the campaigns myself.
You can check the dates of creation of topics and you will find that most of them were not paid topics.

As for the reason why I do this, this is because i edit this bot AutoReply v1.0, and long topics are suitable for that im trying to do, is there a rule that prevents re-writing my topics? Huh

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- Bitcoin Scripts for dummies - 36 merits - Created by July 14, 2020, 03:54:45 PM - Archive
- Bitcoin Scripts - 1 merits - Created by March 17, 2022, 01:00:23 PM - Archive

this is one of topics that get merit and this is beacuse i locked topic after 5 min from creating it. check

March 17, 2022, 03:02:17 PM: 1 from mocacinno for Bitcoin Scripts
topic created March 17, 2022, 03:00:23 PM

admin can check time to move that topic

So from 18 "duplicate themes" only 4 get Merits

Build a better argument.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on March 17, 2022, 05:08:16 PM

It's just another unethical approach to earn merit imo too.

True, I also think that it's really not a good or rather unethical thing for anyone to do especially if the goal is about merit. But I assume that the user understands the rules of the forum well enough that he dares to do it for a long time. Some people may have noticed this especially those who have contributed at the thread ^{[comment or distributing merit]} but may not have asked as Ratimov did in this thread.

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on March 17, 2022, 05:08:16 PM

Is there anyone who can list the extra ordinary ideas so far we have discovered to earn merits from different users? This could help us to use as reference when a newbie will ask to earn ways of merits :-D

Do you mean threads like this? Beginners & Help Encyclopedia [UPD: +Electrum Board]. If that's true, then Ratimov has provided it for us.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on March 17, 2022, 05:08:16 PM

Is there anyone who can list the extra ordinary ideas so far we have discovered to earn merits from different users?

By praise singing and ass licking posts of merit sources.

Quote from: Findingnemo on March 18, 2022, 04:50:30 AM

That's what merit hunting is.

Actually it is not the violation if he deleted previous before posting the same content

I can say it is not possible to delete a thread one started except moderators can do that. That is why he sends them to archival or locks the threads. This is bad and deceitful. It has to be condemned. Maybe the user has to come here and explain what went on with that.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on March 18, 2022, 03:44:35 AM

I just can't wait to see his explanation and justification for crap he was doing all this time Cheesy

I am very certain he is watching this thread, but won't come here to justify his actions because I don't see any realistic way he can defend himself.

What is disappointing is that most of those threads he deleted or moved to archival have some replies where members engaged in constructive discussions and could contain vital information that can be helpful to newbies, but all he cared about was merit points.

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That's what merit hunting is.

Actually it is not the violation if he deleted previous before posting the same content but its pure plagiarism and the intention is not really good so moderator should take some action atleast a temp ban will serve as a warning for everyone who intend to do like such activities in the future.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on March 18, 2022, 03:44:35 AM

All the things people do for merits and money Roll Eyes

Best of all is that he would probably achieve the same result (getting more merit) by simply bumping his old threads from time to time for "visibility" purposes as people like to say but in most cases its just an euphemism for a merit fishing tactic.

Quote from: dkbit98 on March 18, 2022, 03:44:35 AM

This is not the reason for me to give him negative feedback but he is going to my growing ignore list for sure

Same here, but this definitely makes him fall in a shitposter category that should be ignored and kicked out of signature campaign.

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All the things people do for merits and money Roll Eyes

I just can't wait to see his explanation and justification for crap he was doing all this time Cheesy

This is not the reason for me to give him negative feedback but he is going to my growing ignore list for sure, and bounty manager should maybe consider excluding him from campaign.

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Although I understood it's abuse, but I don't think he will got any punishment (except excluded from his campaign). I have opened similar thread before Shamm copy-pasted his own post in order to earn merit some people said there's no called self plagiarism and nothing we can do about this matter.

I have reported one of his thread to moderator, but I believe it will not change anything and my report remain unhandled.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on March 17, 2022, 04:55:31 PM

So far, Husires has locked the thread first and moved it to the archive board before creating a duplicate. But maybe it is disliked on the grounds of misleading other users in the distribution of the merit. Maybe we should ignore it in this case because if it's about merit then the user really has a tactic that doesn't look good for other users to emulate.

It's just another unethical approach to earn merit imo too.

Is there anyone who can list the extra ordinary ideas so far we have discovered to earn merits from different users? This could help us to use as reference when a newbie will ask to earn ways of merits :-D

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Ratimov, regardless of whether Husires' goal was to do that out of merit or otherwise, I'd really like to know what that user has violated by duplicating a post or thread he's made in the past in your opinion.

So far, Husires has locked the thread first and moved it to the archive board before creating a duplicate. But maybe it is disliked on the grounds of misleading other users in the distribution of the merit. Maybe we should ignore it in this case because if it's about merit then the user really has a tactic that doesn't look good for other users to emulate.

Quote from: Poker Player on March 17, 2022, 01:21:39 PM

Let's see if a moderator comes by and tells us, but I think it's clear from the behavior that he knows he's doing something questionable, and is trying to hide it.

I think it's important now to know how the mod responds to that.
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What it seems is that if he is doing it to get more merits he has not done well because in the great majority of duplicated (or multiplied) threads, he has not gotten any merit.

Now what is not clear to me is what is going to happen with him. I think that because of this questionable way of acting he could be red tagged, because although we are not talking about trades, someone who acts like this does not seem to be trustworthy. Another thing is if the moderators will do something, because he constantly breaks unofficial rule 12, and with this I think that at least he could get a warning.

Quote from: logfiles on March 17, 2022, 12:23:53 PM

Maybe a rule against creating multiple duplicate posts, but given that he first locks, deletes or moves the other topic to archival board. I am not sure how it would apply.

Let's see if a moderator comes by and tells us, but I think it's clear from the behavior that he knows he's doing something questionable, and is trying to hide it.

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Quote from: RapTarX on March 17, 2022, 12:08:52 PM

That's weird. How come no has noticed that before? Why would even he try this? I don't know what's his motive is behind cross posting the same topic in different boards; wouldn’t be surprised if that's solely for merits. People are doing lots of weird thing for merits these days LOL.
If I'm correct, there's a rule for such topic, isn’t it? I would love to see what Husires has to say here.

I have a version that he uses this behavior as a kind of fishing. He spreads duplicate topics around the forum and waits for a response from the community. If the response was zero, he closes the topic and throws it into the archive, if someone pecked at his next bait and sent merit or write comment, then he does not touch the topic.

After some time, the pattern repeats itself. He closes old topics, creates new ones, scatters them again in different sections and waits for someone to respond to them by sending a merit or writing a post.

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Quote from: RapTarX on March 17, 2022, 12:08:52 PM

That's weird. How come no has noticed that before?

Because he would Lock, delete or move the previous post to Archival board before creating a new duplicate

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I don't know what's his motive is behind cross posting the same topic in different boards; wouldn’t be surprised if that's solely for merits. People are doing lots of weird thing for merits these days LOL.

Merits bro, merits!! Grin

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If I'm correct, there's a rule for such topic, isn’t it? I would love to see what Husires has to say here.

Maybe a rule against creating multiple duplicate posts, but given that he first locks, deletes or moves the other topic to archival board. I am not sure how it would apply.

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That's weird. How come no has noticed that before? Why would even he try this? I don't know what's his motive is behind cross posting the same topic in different boards; wouldn’t be surprised if that's solely for merits. People are doing lots of weird thing for merits these days LOL.
If I'm correct, there's a rule for such topic, isn’t it? I would love to see what Husires has to say here.

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