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are you still thinking of doing this
sounds like a great idea
sounds like a great idea
A Serious Question:
As you may know, Lisk has gone bananas thanks to Yobit opening up an artificial market for trading Lisk IOUs that are backed by Yobit's own ICO purchase. In form, it's like an Asset and of course it requires trusting Yobit.
I bought a small amount of Lisk myself in the ICO. Since I was put up to issuing an IOTA Asset pre-release, an "IOU of an IOU" as someone called it, I want to ask the Horizon community:
Do you want me to do the same for Lisk? Would there be any demand for an HZLisk Asset backed by one of my ICO accounts?
Please bear in mind, anyone who would buy it would have to wait along with me for Lisk's release. I can't redeem an HZLisk Asset until the mainnet release date. So, any buyer of it would not only have to trust me but also would have to be patient. Given this temporary freezing, my issue price would be well below Yobit's price to compensate for the wait. That discount would be in addition to a sizable discount because I think the Yobit price is too high to be sustainable.
At least two Nxters have issued Assets on the Nxt system that are like the above proposal. They have huge discounts wrt Yobit's crazy-high price, and I would too.
As with the IOTA one, this Asset would be for distribution purposes; there'd be a simple sell-wall and then the wait.
What do you think? Any interest? If not, I'll keep twiddling my thumbs and holding on.
As you may know, Lisk has gone bananas thanks to Yobit opening up an artificial market for trading Lisk IOUs that are backed by Yobit's own ICO purchase. In form, it's like an Asset and of course it requires trusting Yobit.
I bought a small amount of Lisk myself in the ICO. Since I was put up to issuing an IOTA Asset pre-release, an "IOU of an IOU" as someone called it, I want to ask the Horizon community:
Do you want me to do the same for Lisk? Would there be any demand for an HZLisk Asset backed by one of my ICO accounts?
Please bear in mind, anyone who would buy it would have to wait along with me for Lisk's release. I can't redeem an HZLisk Asset until the mainnet release date. So, any buyer of it would not only have to trust me but also would have to be patient. Given this temporary freezing, my issue price would be well below Yobit's price to compensate for the wait. That discount would be in addition to a sizable discount because I think the Yobit price is too high to be sustainable.
At least two Nxters have issued Assets on the Nxt system that are like the above proposal. They have huge discounts wrt Yobit's crazy-high price, and I would too.
As with the IOTA one, this Asset would be for distribution purposes; there'd be a simple sell-wall and then the wait.
What do you think? Any interest? If not, I'll keep twiddling my thumbs and holding on.
OK is Honored with the new cross collaboration with Horizon:
Congratulations to HZ for claiming a "Permanent add promo"
showing Real commitment to their communities to support long term adoption.
Horizon is getting integrated in the base coins for all coming ROKOS flavors releases for IoT devices.
Learn more about ROKOS at: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-rokos-flavors-crypto-full-node-os-iot-devices-feedbackdiscussion-1084908
What is ROKOS?
http://rokos.space
Congratulations to HZ for claiming a "Permanent add promo"
showing Real commitment to their communities to support long term adoption.
Horizon is getting integrated in the base coins for all coming ROKOS flavors releases for IoT devices.
Learn more about ROKOS at: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-rokos-flavors-crypto-full-node-os-iot-devices-feedbackdiscussion-1084908
What is ROKOS?
http://rokos.space
Thank you for your work!
I have created an open door ... with a chance for HZ to get included into the project
~ "Crypto OS" for RaspberryPi tiny computers
~ "Crypto OS" for RaspberryPi tiny computersOK is Honored with the new cross collaboration with Horizon... Horizon is getting integrated in the base coins for all coming ROKOS flavors releases for IoT devices. ...What is ROKOS? http://rokos.space
Awesome to have this finished, thank you! 
OK is Honored with the new cross collaboration with Horizon:
Congratulations to HZ for claiming a "Permanent add promo"
showing Real commitment to their communities to support long term adoption.
Horizon is getting integrated in the base coins for all coming ROKOS flavors releases for IoT devices.
What is ROKOS?
http://rokos.space
Congratulations to HZ for claiming a "Permanent add promo"
showing Real commitment to their communities to support long term adoption.
Horizon is getting integrated in the base coins for all coming ROKOS flavors releases for IoT devices.
What is ROKOS?
http://rokos.space
Awesome to have this finished, thank you!
It's a pleasure, the new release with integrated HZ should be out in the next week or 2 aprox, OpenBazaar is getting integrated as well among the new features.
OK is Honored with the new cross collaboration with Horizon:
Congratulations to HZ for claiming a "Permanent add promo"
showing Real commitment to their communities to support long term adoption.
Horizon is getting integrated in the base coins for all coming ROKOS flavors releases for IoT devices.
What is ROKOS?
http://rokos.space
Congratulations to HZ for claiming a "Permanent add promo"
showing Real commitment to their communities to support long term adoption.
Horizon is getting integrated in the base coins for all coming ROKOS flavors releases for IoT devices.
What is ROKOS?
http://rokos.space
Awesome to have this finished, thank you!
OK is Honored with the new cross collaboration with Horizon:
Congratulations to HZ for claiming a "Permanent add promo"
showing Real commitment to their communities to support long term adoption.
Horizon is getting integrated in the base coins for all coming ROKOS flavors releases for IoT devices.
Learn more about ROKOS at: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-rokos-flavors-crypto-full-node-os-iot-devices-feedbackdiscussion-1084908
What is ROKOS?
http://rokos.space
Congratulations to HZ for claiming a "Permanent add promo"
showing Real commitment to their communities to support long term adoption.
Horizon is getting integrated in the base coins for all coming ROKOS flavors releases for IoT devices.
Learn more about ROKOS at: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-rokos-flavors-crypto-full-node-os-iot-devices-feedbackdiscussion-1084908
What is ROKOS?
http://rokos.space
As you know Nxtblg, i am always open for new assets on Horizon, but this one i will pass. I bought also some at regular ICO and the price is to high at moment. (i dont know your price but at yobit and the other shitexchange (forgot the name, never heard before) is astronomically.
But thanks for your effort.
But thanks for your effort.
A Serious Question:
As you may know, Lisk has gone bananas thanks to Yobit opening up an artificial market for trading Lisk IOUs that are backed by Yobit's own ICO purchase. In form, it's like an Asset and of course it requires trusting Yobit.
I bought a small amount of Lisk myself in the ICO. Since I was put up to issuing an IOTA Asset pre-release, an "IOU of an IOU" as someone called it, I want to ask the Horizon community:
Do you want me to do the same for Lisk? Would there be any demand for an HZLisk Asset backed by one of my ICO accounts?
Please bear in mind, anyone who would buy it would have to wait along with me for Lisk's release. I can't redeem an HZLisk Asset until the mainnet release date. So, any buyer of it would not only have to trust me but also would have to be patient. Given this temporary freezing, my issue price would be well below Yobit's price to compensate for the wait. That discount would be in addition to a sizable discount because I think the Yobit price is too high to be sustainable.
At least two Nxters have issued Assets on the Nxt system that are like the above proposal. They have huge discounts wrt Yobit's crazy-high price, and I would too.
As with the IOTA one, this Asset would be for distribution purposes; there'd be a simple sell-wall and then the wait.
What do you think? Any interest? If not, I'll keep twiddling my thumbs and holding on.
As you may know, Lisk has gone bananas thanks to Yobit opening up an artificial market for trading Lisk IOUs that are backed by Yobit's own ICO purchase. In form, it's like an Asset and of course it requires trusting Yobit.
I bought a small amount of Lisk myself in the ICO. Since I was put up to issuing an IOTA Asset pre-release, an "IOU of an IOU" as someone called it, I want to ask the Horizon community:
Do you want me to do the same for Lisk? Would there be any demand for an HZLisk Asset backed by one of my ICO accounts?
Please bear in mind, anyone who would buy it would have to wait along with me for Lisk's release. I can't redeem an HZLisk Asset until the mainnet release date. So, any buyer of it would not only have to trust me but also would have to be patient. Given this temporary freezing, my issue price would be well below Yobit's price to compensate for the wait. That discount would be in addition to a sizable discount because I think the Yobit price is too high to be sustainable.
At least two Nxters have issued Assets on the Nxt system that are like the above proposal. They have huge discounts wrt Yobit's crazy-high price, and I would too.
As with the IOTA one, this Asset would be for distribution purposes; there'd be a simple sell-wall and then the wait.
What do you think? Any interest? If not, I'll keep twiddling my thumbs and holding on.
The transaction for ROKOS integration has been approved. I tested if the Foundation account itself can vote, and that's possible. Without that, 233M have given their vote. That's an amazing result!
Nobody spoke out against, so it should be safe to use 250M as 100% for future decisions. This means that small amounts can be approved with >125M (50%) while bigger ones need >187.5M (75%).
3.1M HZ have been sold for 1 BTC, the remaining 900k will be sent back to the Foundation. We still need some graphics for the ROKOS team to start working, they should be available in a couple of days (James is in hospital right now). If you're a graphics guy, want to speed up that process and leave a mark in ROKOS, you can create a HD wallpaper for us to give them.
Nobody spoke out against, so it should be safe to use 250M as 100% for future decisions. This means that small amounts can be approved with >125M (50%) while bigger ones need >187.5M (75%).
3.1M HZ have been sold for 1 BTC, the remaining 900k will be sent back to the Foundation. We still need some graphics for the ROKOS team to start working, they should be available in a couple of days (James is in hospital right now). If you're a graphics guy, want to speed up that process and leave a mark in ROKOS, you can create a HD wallpaper for us to give them.
Now it all seems cool again - last block height is 614143 at 2016-04-04 12:12:25 UTC;
and the block explorer is back on track, too.
What happened there? -->
?
EDIT:
None of the three mentioned blocks are in the chain
15916107914199152902
2109494211988400058
1404984029841997228
EDIT: since then seen these ones too:
3909407368872076979
5384821555563648145
5050630628020782319
But none could be found with http://localhost:7776/test?requestTag=BLOCKS
So nothing has happened really. "Move along folks, nothing to see here"
I was just alerted because the HZ NRS output is usually super quiet. So I thought if something is happening in there and even gets repeated dozens of times ... that it might be important. And then the chain was stuck for a long time locally, and also on the block explorer.
But right now it looks as if really nothing has happened. Seemingly "someone from the future" was able to forge3 6 blocks, but then they did not get into the chain, so ... the "Days of Future Past" have never really happened, and "only Logan will remember" ;-)
and the block explorer is back on track, too.
What happened there? -->
Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future ...
?
EDIT:
None of the three mentioned blocks are in the chain
15916107914199152902
2109494211988400058
1404984029841997228
EDIT: since then seen these ones too:
3909407368872076979
5384821555563648145
5050630628020782319
But none could be found with http://localhost:7776/test?requestTag=BLOCKS
So nothing has happened really. "Move along folks, nothing to see here"
I was just alerted because the HZ NRS output is usually super quiet. So I thought if something is happening in there and even gets repeated dozens of times ... that it might be important. And then the chain was stuck for a long time locally, and also on the block explorer.
But right now it looks as if really nothing has happened. Seemingly "someone from the future" was able to forge
Here is a new one:
...
64244656 - 64244141 = 515 seconds = 8.6 minutes.
EDIT: and another one:
64245189 - 64244647 = 542 seconds = 9.03 minutes
EDIT:
What is the algorithm to find agreement on the network time?
I suppose there is some majority rule in it?
If yes, then there is a non-neglectable numbers of nodes running on the wrong system time - right?
Just an idea: Is it possible that many new Azure (or Rokos) nodes have been started - and they are all way off in their system time?
Code:
2016-04-04 13:58:02 WARNING: Received block 1404984029841997228 from the future, block timestamp is 64244656, current time is 64244141, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:58:09 WARNING: Received block 1404984029841997228 from the future, block timestamp is 64244656, current time is 64244147, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:58:11 WARNING: Received block 1404984029841997228 from the future, block timestamp is 64244656, current time is 64244150, system clock may be off
64244656 - 64244141 = 515 seconds = 8.6 minutes.
EDIT: and another one:
Code:
2016-04-04 14:06:29 WARNING: Received block 2109494211988400058 from the future, block timestamp is 64245189, current time is 64244647, system clock may be off
64245189 - 64244647 = 542 seconds = 9.03 minutes
EDIT:
What is the algorithm to find agreement on the network time?
I suppose there is some majority rule in it?
If yes, then there is a non-neglectable numbers of nodes running on the wrong system time - right?
Just an idea: Is it possible that many new Azure (or Rokos) nodes have been started - and they are all way off in their system time?
Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future
I have double and triple checked, and updated my time from time.nist.gov, etc. - my system clock is correct.
64244857 - 64243559 = 1298
1298 seconds ~ 22 minutes
Searching for id 15916107914199152902 inside the wallet leads to no results.
The block explorer's last block is at height 614133 at 2016-04-04 11:35:29 UTC.
My own wallet is stuck at height 614013 at 4/4/2016 10:31:07
Code:
2016-04-04 13:47:57 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243536, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:47:58 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243537, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:01 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243540, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:05 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243544, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:06 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243545, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:10 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243549, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:13 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243551, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:16 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243554, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:17 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243555, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:19 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243558, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:21 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243559, system clock may be off
I have double and triple checked, and updated my time from time.nist.gov, etc. - my system clock is correct.
64244857 - 64243559 = 1298
1298 seconds ~ 22 minutes
Searching for id 15916107914199152902 inside the wallet leads to no results.
The block explorer's last block is at height 614133 at 2016-04-04 11:35:29 UTC.
My own wallet is stuck at height 614013 at 4/4/2016 10:31:07
We submitted our PR for Azure yesterday. Zen (from Blocknet community) is handling this for us in between his day job, so it could be a few days, but this is the first step!
https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/pulls
https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/pulls
CI build complete.
Thanks! All this with Horizon holding up at the high 30s.
We submitted our PR for Azure yesterday. Zen (from Blocknet community) is handling this for us in between his day job, so it could be a few days, but this is the first step!
https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/pulls
https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/pulls
CI build complete.
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